A deaf patient's eight-hour wait points out gaps in hospital communications

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Rodney McFeeley, 64, said he was "waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting" for a sign-language interpreter after he was in an accident and taken by ambulance to the Queen's Medical Center on Jan. 13.

In an interview through interpreter Kennedy Cooper, McFeeley said he did not ask for an interpreter in the emergency room because he "just assumed they knew what they were doing, that they called an interpreter."

The deaf man's experience angered McFeeley's employer, Ronald Young, owner of Won Ton and Things Ltd. on Sand Island, and has upset advocates and organizations for the deaf.

"He was there eight hours," Young said. "He didn't understand why he had to wait so long. For a deaf person, that's a long time if there is no communication."

Queen's spokeswoman Nancy Usui said the hospital's policy is to provide emergency interpreters for deaf and hearing-impaired patients if they request an interpreter or the doctor or clinician feels communication is an issue.

She said she could not discuss specifics of McFeeley's case because of the patients' privacy law, and that the hospital's patient relations office has tried without success to contact him.

Darlene Baird, communication access program manager and emergency sign-language interpreter at Hawaii Services on Deafness, said there appears to be a breakdown in requesting interpreters in emergency departments. "Kaiser is really good, but there is a problem with other hospitals."

Baird does not believe it is a cost-savings issue, because she said Queen's hires interpreters every day for regular appointments with deaf patients. "I think it's an oversight," she said. "Doctors get so busy (in ERs)."

But the American with Disabilities Act calls for equal access to information, she said, adding that she knows of recent violations of the law.

Officials say more than 100,000 islanders statewide have significant hearing loss, and about 10,000 are deaf residents who use sign language as the primary method of communication.

Francine Wai, executive director of the Disability and Communication Access Board, said, "Clearly, the obligation of a hospital in providing services for people who are deaf and hard of hearing is to provide equivalent communication."

Communication does not always require an interpreter, but can be in writing or by a computer screen, she said.

McFeeley said he was "writing notes back and forth" with his nurses and doctors. But he prefers an interpreter because sometimes it is hard to understand what someone means with writing, he said.

Also, it was difficult for him to write because his right hand was injured, with 12 stitches needed on his little finger, he said. He also was treated for two cuts on his head and lacerations above his right eyebrow.

McFeeley collided with a car about 4:30 p.m. while riding his bicycle from Sand Island to Puuhale Street, where he catches the bus to go to his home in Waianae.

Young said a social worker called him from Queen's at about 10:30 p.m. looking for a relative who could communicate with McFeeley because they were trying to discharge him.

Young said he asked the social worker and others in the emergency room, before and after he went there to pick up McFeeley, why no one had called for an interpreter since 5 p.m. "It really concerns me that the hospital never bothered to get an interpreter," said Young, explaining that he only knows a limited form of sign language. "How would Rodney know what was happening to him?"

An emergency interpreter was reached through the Hawaii Services on Deafness and arrived about midnight from Waianae, he said. He and McFeeley left the hospital about 1 a.m., he said.

Kristine Pagano, advocate and treasurer for the Aloha State Association of the Deaf, said more education is needed for hospitals about care for patients with communication barriers.

Wai said health issues are involved as well as legal requirements. "A person must have informed consent when signing papers," she pointed out. "If a person is deaf and doesn't have appropriate literacy skills, as might a non-English-speaking person from another country, then writing down or even typing what is on a printed form doesn't provide any great communication."

Kathy Reimers, Hawaii Services on Deafness executive director, said her agency, which offers emergency interpretation services around the clock, has contracts with Queen's and other medical centers. "We know Queen's staff and legal personnel are aware of the laws and have set a system in place to ensure compliance.

"I don't know why there is a breakdown in the ER system," Reimers added, "but we're going to do training there and refresher training with all hospitals."

Although he was not happy about not having an interpreter, McFeeley said, "I really liked my doctor," who advised him to wear a helmet when riding bike.

"I've already bought it," he said.

By Helen Altonn
 
Grrrr....don't get me started!
 
Reba said:
Grrrr....don't get me started!
Ohhh No! You don't get off that easy Reba! :P

I want to know why even supposedly educated doctors and nurses give me "the grin" when I tell them I can't hear them. Then, invariably, they turn to my wife and talk to her as if I am not there. I love my wife but she has an eighth grade education. According to her, I have a disfragmented disc in my lower back. Courts behave the same way. School boards too. Why? They know to comply with every other blinking law, why not deafness?

BTW, Reba, my tyrade is in NO way aimed at you! :mrgreen:
 
Codger said:
Ohhh No! You don't get off that easy Reba! :P
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BTW, Reba, my tyrade is in NO way aimed at you! :mrgreen:
I fully understand. That is the reason I didn't want to get started on this topic. I get very aggrevated with some hospitals and doctors around here. I had a bad experience just recently with a hospital not providing adequate interpreting services for a Deaf patient. I did not like what I saw and heard. But unless the patient and/or patient's family does some self-advocating there is not much I can do about the situation. It is very frustrating. I can't go into details because of confidentiality issues. I have done interpreting for routine medical appointments, emergency medical events at the hospital, and emergency medical events at non-medical sites, and in an ambulance. All I can say is the medical field has a long way to go with meeting the communication needs of Deaf patients.
 
Yea, it has happened to deaf too many times. That s why i always ask an interpreter to see if they have "after-hour" to come in for serious reasons like hosptial. I will ask an interpreter to have a card so I can keep and give Nurse to contact. I can let nurse know that person willing to come in right away as anytime. I always do that.
Ask for Card
Keep Card in your purse or wallet
Give them to contact person's name and phone number.
That s what i did carry with me all the time.
I suggest for Deafies to do same thing.
Mommyof3
 
Reba said:
All I can say is the medical field has a long way to go with meeting the communication needs of Deaf patients.

The medical field has a long way to go with meeting the communication needs of ALL their patients.

If in some magical universe that were ever to happen, maybe Deaf people could then start to see some improvement. I wouldn't advise holding our breath though.
 
Interpretrator said:
The medical field has a long way to go with meeting the communication needs of ALL their patients.

If in some magical universe that were ever to happen, maybe Deaf people could then start to see some improvement. I wouldn't advise holding our breath though.

That goes for education professionals too. And legal professionals. So what, we have to swat them over the head with the law to get their attention? Class action ADA suit or something? They put special parking spaces with signs outside, add ramps, put rails around a toilet and pat themselves on the back. "We are in compliance!" Makes me want to go back to college for a law degree. SWAT! POUNCE!!! BIP!! BOP!!!
 
Slightly off Topic: That reminds me of an low-income apartment building that was erected more than 10 years ago specifically for the deaf and hard of hearing. The contracters came, they built it according to the ADA guidelines - putting bars around the toilets and tubs for the handicapped and everything - except they forgot the flashing strobe for the door that were supposed to be installed in every room. When the error was pointed out to them, they said "D'OH!" and went back to install the strobes just like that. Yeah, they thought of the handicapped and everything except us deaf people and our needs. @_@
 
He should have never waited that long just to get an interpreter, I don't care how busy the ER is.. ALL patients should be treat equally...How is the doctor or nurse are going to communicate with a patient that is unable to hear or speak?...It's not fair at all for a patient to lay in the hospital bed for hours and not knowing what is going on or what taking them so long or what is being said there and etc....It's such a shame that hospitals keep making lame excuess all the time!.. :(
 
Reba said:
I fully understand. That is the reason I didn't want to get started on this topic. I get very aggrevated with some hospitals and doctors around here. I had a bad experience just recently with a hospital not providing adequate interpreting services for a Deaf patient. I did not like what I saw and heard. But unless the patient and/or patient's family does some self-advocating there is not much I can do about the situation. It is very frustrating. I can't go into details because of confidentiality issues. I have done interpreting for routine medical appointments, emergency medical events at the hospital, and emergency medical events at non-medical sites, and in an ambulance. All I can say is the medical field has a long way to go with meeting the communication needs of Deaf patients.
That issue is sadly common in many locations. That's almost exactly the same situation Nas were in. She were so frustrated about that as well. Clinics for low-wage families' situation is far worse than in hospitals. Nas shared her experiences with me and I was surprised that she is still sane right after these incidents.

Interpretrato said:
The medical field has a long way to go with meeting the communication needs of ALL their patients.
I completely agree with you.
 
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