Questions about interpreters for the deaf

[Cheri]

There was a discussion about interpreters with no show, late arrival, or substitute requests if an interpreter calls in sick.

as an interpreter, many many times the terp DOES NOT show up and the child is left in class with nothing... I have seen this for myself many , many times over... Just like interpreters have not shown up to court (( my dad has a court case) and we have been going back and forth for the past 3 yeats because they NEVER EVER show up.

For some reason, this post above doesn't seem to fit right with me. It's impossible for an interpreter not to show up for the whole three period of years. I believe the blame lies within the ignorance of hearing people who refused to provide a deaf person an interpreter, not the blame of the interpreters.

It's the schools responsibilities to hire interpreters for the deaf to serve as the communication between deaf and the teachers. It's also the schools responsibilities to find a substitute if a hired interpreter calls in sick; same goes for court, doctor's appointments and so on. Am I correct?

While most of us are aware that there are different interpreting agencies and private interpreters offer different rates for interpreting services, and we also are aware that there are many ignorance hearing people out in the world who has no knowledge of the ADA Law for the deaf, their needs that are required to meet. Hearing parents of the deaf needs to realized that when an interpreter is not presented for their child, it's not the fault of the interpreter, it's the fault of the schools, courts, doctors, and so on.

Am I correct?

 

[Angel]

Yep that's correct...

 

[jillio]

You are absolutely correct, Cheri.

 

[Kaitin]

Cheri, I think you are correct.

Also I have agreement with interpreters for class. The agreement says I can't be too late or miss class without notification and they can't also. So everyone agrees about attendance and notification. I don't just skip class like my friends all the time to me and the interpreters just don't skip also. Before college I didn't have this agreement but still no problems. The school always got substitutes so never "just didn't show up". I agree with Jillio's post in the other thread (CI) about the quote - different problem, more about services and IEP than interpreters.

 

[Interpretrator]

Usually correct, but terps are human too and sometimes don't show up for scheduled appointments. I know there were one or two occasions when I was interpreting when I couldn't show up at the last minute and there was no one to sub for me. Rare, but occasionally.

However, I mostly agree with your post.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

I know the difference system for interpreter between US and Germany. I would say that you are correct about the hearing people who require the interpreter for deaf clients/customers are the one who are ignorant, Cheri.

I personally disagree with US system how to hire interpreter because it's too stress and hassle for many deaf clients/customers who are being reject for get an interpreter.

Let me share the example about Germany system for Interpreter.

I don't have any negative experience with interpreters for years like what you described here but I only have one bad experience with one interpreter. I asked Agency to delete her in my wish list.

All what I feel that I require an interpreter then apply Agency for Interpreter central with some of my wish interpreters. The Agency found an Interpreter for me and made an appointment and time and where meeting for me and my interpreter.

Cancel appointment:
I must notify the Agency within 24 hours before appointment. After 24 hours, I have to pay Interpreter's fee out of my pocket.

If Interpreter can't make it up due sickness, emergencies, etc.:
Interpreter is obligate to notify Agency then Agency look for Interpreter's replacement. If they found then inform me which interpreter and why.... If impossible then Agency contact with companies to make postpone the appointment.

Late arrived: (I don't have any experience but only 5 minutes late or earlier at mostly).
If late, then Interpreter texted to inform me with mobile phone due traffic jam.. etc.

 

[shel90]

Cheri..u are correct. I think some people are trying to justify their position of why they dont want their kids to learn sign language. It seems like they see being dependent on a terp means less freedom. I would think it would depend on the deaf individual on their feelings about that not on the hearing parents of the deaf individual.

I dont remember having problems with terps not showing up. Maybe being a little late but not showing up...hmmm. I am sure there are situations when the terp gets stuck or last minute issues popping up and the terp cant show up but I have never heard of a terp neglecting to show up for a job simply because they dont feel like it. That would be very unprofessional and cost the terps their jobs.

As for schools, if there is no terp for the student, it is usually because the school refuses to hire one or the parents didnt put that in their child's iep. Not the terp's fault.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Yes, I agree that it's not Interpreter's fault - how could they know that we need them then?

But it's parents who should apply Agency to provide them an interpreter. Yes I know US and German system is different but I prefer German system how to provide an interpreter for us over US system because it's too hassle/stress for the deaf parents/clients/customers who required an interpreter thru doctors, hospitial, school, etc. etc. who reject them.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

As for schools, if there is no terp for the student, it is usually because the school refuses to hire one or the parents didnt put that in their child's iep. Not the terp's fault.

What's the reason, they refuse to hire an interpreter for deaf parents?

 

[shel90]

What's the reason, they refuse to hire an interpreter for deaf parents?

Well..some schools do hire and some do not. I lived in Montgomery county for 2 years and that is an extremely rich county so the school had no problems providing me an terp for anything. However, I moved to Anne Arundel county..more middle class, I had to fight with the schools to provide me a qualified terp. They did provide me a terp but it turned out to be their speech teacher who happened to know some signs. She was not fluent at all. I reported a complaint and the county said that they dont have money in their budget to provide parents terps and they are not responsilbe for providing me services for my needs like a doctor's office would be responsible. Ugh!

Need to fight with them some more like Angel did..maybe in another 3 years things will change. LOL!

 

[Cheri]

Yes, I agree that it's not Interpreter's fault - how could they know that we need them then?

But it's parents who should apply Agency to provide them an interpreter. Yes I know US and German system is different but I prefer German system how to provide an interpreter for us over US system because it's too hassle/stress for the deaf parents/clients/customers who required an interpreter thru doctors, hospitial, school, etc. etc.

Yes I know, one time I even phoned the agency myself and told them how much difficulties it was with the communication between the Veterinarian and myself, that I would need an interpreter but the veterinarian was afraid of the cost of the interpreter would be higher for him to afford, so the agency asked me for the phone number of the vet, I then gave it to them.

They did talked to him and then brought in an interpreter, then again the veterinarian asked the interpreter if he could talk to her privately, the interpreter had a face expression of asked for our permission if it was all-right with us, then she came back and interpreting everything he asked her in private about the cost of interpreter and how we should seek else where to take our pets to the vet. (Oh OK!!) He didn't even want to try to find another way to communicate with us, he was horrible at writing notes back and forth, he couldn't speak very clear for us to be able to catch words by words what he said, so I took my service elsewhere.
Cheri> <veterianarian

 

[shel90]

Yes I know, one time I even phoned the agency myself and told them how much difficulties it was with the communication between the Veterinarian and myself, that I would need an interpreter but the veterinarian was afraid of the cost of the interpreter would be higher for him to afford, so the agency asked me for the phone number of the vet, I then gave it to them.

They did talked to him and then brought in an interpreter, then again the veterinarian asked the interpreter if he could talk to her privately, the interpreter had a face expression of asked for our permission if it was all-right with us, then she came back and interpreting everything he asked her in private about the cost of interpreter and how we should seek else where to take our pets to the vet. (Oh OK!!) He didn't even want to try to find another way to communicate with us, he was horrible at writing notes back and forth, he couldn't speak very clear for us to be able to catch words by words what he said. I took my service elsewhere.
Cheri> <veterianarian

That was against the law...that is grounds for a lawsuit cuz it is discrimination right there.

 

[Cheri]

Need to fight with them some more like Angel did..maybe in another 3 years things will change. LOL!

Yep, so do I, I don't give up without a fight.

I fought through thick and thin to get it my way, or else. (You should see the hotel guy almost peed his pants)

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Well..some schools do hire and some do not. I lived in Montgomery county for 2 years and that is an extremely rich county so the school had no problems providing me an terp for anything. However, I moved to Anne Arundel county..more middle class, I had to fight with the schools to provide me a qualified terp. They did provide me a terp but it turned out to be their speech teacher who happened to know some signs. She was not fluent at all. I reported a complaint and the county said that they dont have money in their budget to provide parents terps and they are not responsilbe for providing me services for my needs like a doctor's office would be responsible. Ugh!

Need to fight with them some more like Angel did..maybe in another 3 years things will change. LOL!

Yes I thought so since I learn from several threads how stress/hassle deaf ADers for being reject by family doctors, school, kindergarten, etc to get an interpreter.

Yes I can understand money issues is the mainly problem. They would not like to pay a lot of money to provide an expensive interpreter for just one deaf person or parents. They rather to use money to focus school, kindergarten, etc than pay an interpreter for one or two deaf person. That's why we have Agency who pays everything for us, no matter how many deaf parents at school etc. Agency fulfull my wish for require interpreter for accompany me to Notar, Bank, Lawyer, Agreement contract, school, kindergarten, etc. etc. etc.

For hospitial, Healthcare insurance obliate to cover the cost for interpreter.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Yes I know, one time I even phoned the agency myself and told them how much difficulties it was with the communication between the Veterinarian and myself, that I would need an interpreter but the veterinarian was afraid of the cost of the interpreter would be higher for him to afford, so the agency asked me for the phone number of the vet, I then gave it to them.

They did talked to him and then brought in an interpreter, then again the veterinarian asked the interpreter if he could talk to her privately, the interpreter had a face expression of asked for our permission if it was all-right with us, then she came back and interpreting everything he asked her in private about the cost of interpreter and how we should seek else where to take our pets to the vet. (Oh OK!!) He didn't even want to try to find another way to communicate with us, he was horrible at writing notes back and forth, he couldn't speak very clear for us to be able to catch words by words what he said, so I took my service elsewhere.
Cheri> <veterianarian

wow, The Vet should negotiate with an interpreter via phone over the prices until they are agree with those price before make an appointment instead of leave you waiting until they finish with private talk... wow

I think you should look for another Vet without stress/hassle.

To my opinion, the government should cover the interpreter costs thru taxpayers to give the Agency to organize everything for deaf people who requires the interpreters. I can require what I want with no stress/hassle...

 

[Cheri]

wow, The Vet should negotiate with an interpreter via phone over the prices until they are agree with those price before make an appointment

I don't know much of what was actually discussed over the phone between the Veterinarian and the agency, but I'm most certain that the agency informed him about the ADA Laws/Rights for all deaf people.

I think you should look for another Vet without stress/hassle

I did, It has been a long time since I've lasted saw him.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

That was against the law...that is grounds for a lawsuit cuz it is discrimination right there.

Against the law for discrimination? It means that they have to be force to pay when they don't want to and suggest them to look other vet or whatever?

But the Vet has the right to suggest when he/she feel that the interpret cost is too much for him/her?

Anyone can negotiate with prices before they are able to hire an interpreter?

 

[Liebling:-)))]

I did, It has been a long time since I've lasted saw him.

 

[shel90]

Against the law for discrimination? It means that they have to be force to pay when they don't want to and suggest them to look other vet or whatever?

But the Vet has the right to suggest when he/she feel that the interpret cost is too much for him/her?

Anyone can negotiate with prices before they are able to hire an interpreter?

The vet told Cheri that she should seek somewhere else to take their pets and refusing to find another way to communicate. That right there shows discrimination.

Nothing about negiotiating prices....that wouldnt be discrimination. That would be between the vet and the agency.

 

[Cheri]

But, I've never seen anyone paying the interpreter while I was there, they were only asked to signed a form.