do you spank your child?

When you get hurt then is an abuse.

:confused: When a child is hurt it is a form of abuse? I supposed when a child falls down on his/her own and it hurts that a form of abuse? And I supposed when a child falls off his bike, and he's hurt that's a form of abuse also?

That doesn't make no sense, Liebling. Of course spanking hurts a child's butt, why would spanking be included in how to discipline your child? spanking only leaves a red temporary mark it'll fade away in seconds or minutes.

a form of abuse would be bruises or cuts, head injuries, poisoning fractures, sprains, burns or scalds and death on a child by their parents or anyone else.

And shaken baby syndrome is also a form of abuse. Those I listed above doesn't allow parents to use those as a form of discipline.
 
:confused: When a child is hurt it is a form of abuse? I supposed when a child falls down on his/her own and it hurts that a form of abuse? And I supposed when a child falls off his bike, and he's hurt that's a form of abuse also?
Sometimes parents have "hurt" a child in order to help him. It's not abuse.

If a child skins his knee and mom has to clean the wound, that hurts and stings. I know kids often try to "fight" mom when she has to clean out a wound. Mom does that to prevent infection. The temporary pain of cleansing the wound is necessary to prevent serious infection.

Many things that are beneficial to a child will temporarily "hurt". Getting dental fillings, pulling out slivers, getting inoculations, pulling tangles out of long hair, setting a broken bone, etc. Parents can't truthfully say, "Oh, I never hurt my child." A parent needs to be willing to sometimes "hurt" the child to help him.

Keep up the good work! :P
 
Sometimes parents have "hurt" a child in order to help him. It's not abuse.

If a child skins his knee and mom has to clean the wound, that hurts and stings. I know kids often try to "fight" mom when she has to clean out a wound. Mom does that to prevent infection. The temporary pain of cleansing the wound is necessary to prevent serious infection.

Many things that are beneficial to a child will temporarily "hurt". Getting dental fillings, pulling out slivers, getting inoculations, pulling tangles out of long hair, setting a broken bone, etc. Parents can't truthfully say, "Oh, I never hurt my child." A parent needs to be willing to sometimes "hurt" the child to help him.

Keep up the good work! :P

:gpost:!! I agree and it's true. ;)
 
Child ABuse Prevent

I think so parents wrongdoing, don't do that spank . That is not fair to spank.

many of kids really scared. Shocked. Don't be hurt to little children. Serious
 
LOL I used to be like several of you and not believe in spankings and believed in positive reinfocements and other forms of discipline.

With my daughter that worked fine.

THEN my son was born. I learned quick to rethink my initial thought of how to raise him.

While he is in trouble for something he didnt do.


He was an ADD child and a HANDFUL. If I sent him to his room as punishment, he would wait till I was in the bathroom, then sneak out the door. If I put him in the corner for time out, he would wait till I had to do something and leave the room, out the door he goes. If I tried to talk to him about it he would just roll his eyes. I called the cops on him, and the cop did talk to him and the very next day he was right back to the same behaviour. I couldn't ground him at all, as the minute I went to the bathroom or turned my back on him to do something, out the door he would go. I took things away from him, that didnt bother him at all he would just sneak out the door.

I had him in counseling, I went to parenting classes, I went to counseling and NO ONE had any answers on how to deal with him.

MAYBE just MAYBE if I had spanked him while he was growing up, he may not be in the trouble he is in today.

ANYONE can say what they want about spankings, but UNTIL they raise a true problem child, I would say they know next to nothing about how valuable and useful a few swats on the but could be.

Have a child like my son was and then get back to me.


I find it funny though that when my son was in the foster home, these so called experts couldnt control him either! Their only answer was to lock him up in a detention facility.He would have been better off with me at home, than with them. At least I was trying to correct his behaviour. Not shove it off on someone else.

When I was growing up, we were spanked with belts, switches *anyone remember that? Having to go out and cut a switch off the tree?* and many other items. And we had paddlings in school, and was told you get in trouble at school, you get it at home too!

We also grew up having respect for our parents, ourselves, and our elders. We sure didnt get into trouble like these kids are today. Look it up and see how many school shootings there were back then! Look it up and see how much juvenile crime there was back then!

I challenge you to actually see for youselves the differences in our children then and now!

I also challenge you to try raising a son like mine was.

Luckily, my son is older now and realizing just how destructive his behaviour was for him.
 
LOL I used to be like several of you and not believe in spankings and believed in positive reinfocements and other forms of discipline.

With my daughter that worked fine.

THEN my son was born. I learned quick to rethink my initial thought of how to raise him.

While he is in trouble for something he didnt do.


He was an ADD child and a HANDFUL. If I sent him to his room as punishment, he would wait till I was in the bathroom, then sneak out the door. If I put him in the corner for time out, he would wait till I had to do something and leave the room, out the door he goes. If I tried to talk to him about it he would just roll his eyes. I called the cops on him, and the cop did talk to him and the very next day he was right back to the same behaviour. I couldn't ground him at all, as the minute I went to the bathroom or turned my back on him to do something, out the door he would go. I took things away from him, that didnt bother him at all he would just sneak out the door.

I had him in counseling, I went to parenting classes, I went to counseling and NO ONE had any answers on how to deal with him.

MAYBE just MAYBE if I had spanked him while he was growing up, he may not be in the trouble he is in today.

ANYONE can say what they want about spankings, but UNTIL they raise a true problem child, I would say they know next to nothing about how valuable and useful a few swats on the but could be.

Have a child like my son was and then get back to me.


I find it funny though that when my son was in the foster home, these so called experts couldnt control him either! Their only answer was to lock him up in a detention facility.He would have been better off with me at home, than with them. At least I was trying to correct his behaviour. Not shove it off on someone else.

When I was growing up, we were spanked with belts, switches *anyone remember that? Having to go out and cut a switch off the tree?* and many other items. And we had paddlings in school, and was told you get in trouble at school, you get it at home too!

We also grew up having respect for our parents, ourselves, and our elders. We sure didnt get into trouble like these kids are today. Look it up and see how many school shootings there were back then! Look it up and see how much juvenile crime there was back then!

I challenge you to actually see for youselves the differences in our children then and now!

I also challenge you to try raising a son like mine was.

Luckily, my son is older now and realizing just how destructive his behaviour was for him.

:gpost:
 
:confused: When a child is hurt it is a form of abuse? I supposed when a child falls down on his/her own and it hurts that a form of abuse? And I supposed when a child falls off his bike, and he's hurt that's a form of abuse also?

That doesn't make no sense, Liebling. Of course spanking hurts a child's butt, why would spanking be included in how to discipline your child? spanking only leaves a red temporary mark it'll fade away in seconds or minutes.

a form of abuse would be bruises or cuts, head injuries, poisoning fractures, sprains, burns or scalds and death on a child by their parents or anyone else.

And shaken baby syndrome is also a form of abuse. Those I listed above doesn't allow parents to use those as a form of discipline.

Cheri, you are so right about everthing you said here. You sound like a great mom.
 
I was spanked once in my childhood and I never forgot it. It certainly taught me my lesson and I did not repeat the negative act which was throwing avocados at next door's house windows, breaking the glass.

I have never spanked my children but I am not against it if it is used for constructive reasons. Sometimes a spanking gets farther across than a word but I hate to see parents abusing this. Intially, it is not a form of abuse but it will become abuse if parents continue to spank out of frustration and anger. There are many other constructive ways to deal with a child acting out.
 
Accord of Canada Law, Not allowed the spank your child.. as consider you're ABUSE!
Likely whoa.. Horse wait minute, Spank is simple discipline but still you're still consider abuse!
Forget it! Agency protection worker will apprehended your child away from family because you're spank the child and still you're part of abuse the child. Tiny thing mistake.. Still apprehended your child away from family for good.. Get your lawyer and long haul battle.. Worth for your life struggle.. Agency is powerful than gov't... IMO!

Really find this extreme crazy way stupid agency of control and want powerful overcome the gov't system.

If your child is AHGD/ADD or ODD, or CD or other kind of mental illness... Still apprehended your child away from family.. That's very quite sick!
That why we are not going discipline our child use our hand weapon "spank child".

Isn't fun..

Depend the country where r u coming from..
I heard some of states who allowed the spank their child.. (Extreme lucky somewhat have good reason)
 
I was spanked once in my childhood and I never forgot it. It certainly taught me my lesson and I did not repeat the negative act which was throwing avocados at next door's house windows, breaking the glass.

I have never spanked my children but I am not against it if it is used for constructive reasons. Sometimes a spanking gets farther across than a word but I hate to see parents abusing this. Intially, it is not a form of abuse but it will become abuse if parents continue to spank out of frustration and anger. There are many other constructive ways to deal with a child acting out.

Never, ever spank your child when you are angry. That is when you risk goi9ng too far. By the same token, I always sent my son to his room until I was sure I was calm before talking to him about his behavior, as well, because anger can also turn into verbal abuse.
 
You said that you was spanked as a child. How do you feel? Hurt?

I know what it alike... very hurt...


When you get hurt then is an abuse.

I don't spank my children for their misbehaved but positive their behavior.

well, I been spank but that not means my parents beat me up like punch in a face, or throw against the wall or pulling hair or bite me. that abuse. Spaking on the butt lightly will not do any serious damange. Every parent discipline differently. But I do know what like to be beaten with a belt when I was teenager and throw against the wall so that entirly different type of abuse.
 
well, I been spank but that not means my parents beat me up like punch in a face, or throw against the wall or pulling hair or bite me. that abuse. Spaking on the butt lightly will not do any serious damange. Every parent discipline differently. But I do know what like to be beaten with a belt when I was teenager and throw against the wall so that entirly different type of abuse.

I do know what that was like.
 
I think every kid deserves a spanking... as long as it isn't overdone.

I've heard of kids being spanked with belts, whips, sticks, branches, hairbrushes, ping pong paddles, etc... which is pretty extreme.
 
:confused: When a child is hurt it is a form of abuse? I supposed when a child falls down on his/her own and it hurts that a form of abuse? And I supposed when a child falls off his bike, and he's hurt that's a form of abuse also?

:confused: children´s accident do not relate this thread here or what? There´re no comparison between child accident and child abuse.

So I made a right comparison.

Woman and Child are being hurt by her spouse/partner and parent´s hand is an abuse because they choose to hurt them.

Woman and Child are being hurt by any accident. Nobody hurt them but their own accidents.


That doesn't make no sense, Liebling.

The comparison, you made between children´s accident and form of abuse doesn´t make no sense.

Of course spanking hurts a child's butt, why would spanking be included in how to discipline your child? spanking only leaves a red temporary mark it'll fade away in seconds or minutes.

It mean that it´s okay for your partner to hurt you because you know that spanking only leave a red temporary mark... Okay, this is your opinion.

Spanking is not belong form of discipline.


a form of abuse would be bruises or cuts, head injuries, poisoning fractures, sprains, burns or scalds and death on a child by their parents or anyone else.

Yes it´s form of phyiscial abuse.


And shaken baby syndrome is also a form of abuse. Those I listed above doesn't allow parents to use those as a form of discipline.


Do you mean that shaken baby syndrome is not belong a form of abuse? Do I understand you correct? If yes, Please explain me why you do not consider shaken baby syndorme as a form of abuse?


I consider shaken baby syndrome as a physical form of abuse.
Shaken Baby Syndrome - Keep Kids Healthy

I consider spanking as a form of abuse.
Stop Spanking


 
THEN my son was born. I learned quick to rethink my initial thought of how to raise him.

While he is in trouble for something he didnt do.


He was an ADD child and a HANDFUL.

Yes I know myself because my oldest son also was an ADD, too. I noticed my son was hyper when he was over 6 months old. I check with child physican. He said it´s normal and wait few years time. Few years later, - very aggressive, hyperactive ,wild, disrespect, ... He was so wild when I spanked him... Also at first school, so worst... The child physican confirmed that he has an ADD what I suspected an earlier so he send him to therapies to train to improve his behavior..... I accompanied him to there for over 2 years. I received alot of tips there to improve my son´s behavior. Now my son is teenager and show not very much of his ADD behavior.

I had him in counseling, I went to parenting classes, I went to counseling and NO ONE had any answers on how to deal with him.

I am total surprised that nobody advised or gave you tips how to take care of ADD children. I recieve a lot of tips and advise how to deal with my ADD son from therapies. All what I do is change his diet. - no sweets after 2 pm, no junk foods, foods with addifical, chemistry... list of addifical, chemsitry... Break from TV or computer games one hour before bedtime, sport to get out of aggressive... A thread creator created a thread about ADD children. I posted and shared the information how to help ADD children there somewhere in 2004. I am sure some ADers know that I have an ADD child.

It does improve his behavior now & more better than before.... He respect me more & more than before... He does very well at school. He´s the best student in the class... He is a class speaker. I´m proud to say this ... He´s very calm teenager and doesn´t break public law. He is a very sporter. love bicycle. Respectful teenager. He can talk anything open with me without fear.

Without therapies´s tips, what happened to him? Perhaps rebel, crime, alochol, disrespectful? I thank therapies for positive my son´s ADD behavior.




MAYBE just MAYBE if I had spanked him while he was growing up, he may not be in the trouble he is in today.

Noooooooooooooo - Never spank problematic child. I am glad that you did not spank him. I spanked my ADD son when he was a little. Therapy told me to not do that and give me positive tips. She explained that it create a huge problem when problematic child (ADD, ADHD, different disorders) become teenager or hit puberty. Aggressive, Volience, etc.

I stop to spank him after learn from therapy.

My younger son don´t have ADD as his oldest brother. I took therapy´s tips to use form of discipline my younger son without spank him. Now he is 11 years old. I really have NO problem with him and his respectful behavior. It belong good patience to positive my both sons behavior.



ANYONE can say what they want about spankings, but UNTIL they raise a true problem child, I would say they know next to nothing about how valuable and useful a few swats on the but could be.

I myself has a ADD child... NO, I disagree with you.


Have a child like my son was and then get back to me.

No need, I already deal with ADD son... :) His ADD behavior did not show very much at his teenage time which is great... Yes work hard to improve his behavior but worth... :)

I find it funny though that when my son was in the foster home, these so called experts couldnt control him either! Their only answer was to lock him up in a detention facility.He would have been better off with me at home, than with them. At least I was trying to correct his behaviour. Not shove it off on someone else.

I am sorry to say that I am surprised that Experts said this to you? It look like that they don´t enjoy their job to deal with problematic children or what? If the people who want to become Expert to help ADD or any disorder children then job is right for them.


When I was growing up, we were spanked with belts, switches *anyone remember that? Having to go out and cut a switch off the tree?* and many other items. And we had paddlings in school, and was told you get in trouble at school, you get it at home too!

Yes I remember. I never, never, never forget how I had been suffer being spanked with belt, padding, brush, hands... Horrible... I am really glad that caption and phyiscal punishment are banned in many EU countries.

We also grew up having respect for our parents, ourselves, and our elders. We sure didnt get into trouble like these kids are today. Look it up and see how many school shootings there were back then! Look it up and see how much juvenile crime there was back then!

I challenge you to actually see for youselves the differences in our children then and now!

Can you explain how well-being child come from without spanking when spanking banned in many EU countries?http://www.alldeaf.com/current-events/38977-usa-second-worst-place-raise-kids.html


I also challenge you to try raising a son like mine was.

Luckily, my son is older now and realizing just how destructive his behaviour was for him.

Again, I raise an ADD son either. :) I know what it alike... Thank God that his ADD behavior is gone... perhaps a very little... not really very much...

Sure, our children are no angel but it´s great to positive their behavior.

 
Never, ever spank your child when you are angry. That is when you risk goi9ng too far. By the same token, I always sent my son to his room until I was sure I was calm before talking to him about his behavior, as well, because anger can also turn into verbal abuse.

Yes, that´s right.
 
Yes I know myself because my oldest son also was an ADD, too. I noticed my son was hyper when he was over 6 months old. I check with child physican. He said it´s normal and wait few years time. Few years later, - very aggressive, hyperactive ,wild, disrespect, ... He was so wild when I spanked him... Also at first school, so worst... The child physican confirmed that he has an ADD what I suspected an earlier so he send him to therapies to train to improve his behavior..... I accompanied him to there for over 2 years. I received alot of tips there to improve my son´s behavior. Now my son is teenager and show not very much of his ADD behavior.



I am total surprised that nobody advised or gave you tips how to take care of ADD children. I recieve a lot of tips and advise how to deal with my ADD son from therapies. All what I do is change his diet. - no sweets after 2 pm, no junk foods, foods with addifical, chemistry... list of addifical, chemsitry... Break from TV or computer games one hour before bedtime, sport to get out of aggressive... A thread creator created a thread about ADD children. I posted and shared the information how to help ADD children there somewhere in 2004. I am sure some ADers know that I have an ADD child.

It does improve his behavior now & more better than before.... He respect me more & more than before... He does very well at school. He´s the best student in the class... He is a class speaker. I´m proud to say this ... He´s very calm teenager and doesn´t break public law. He is a very sporter. love bicycle. Respectful teenager. He can talk anything open with me without fear.

Without therapies´s tips, what happened to him? Perhaps rebel, crime, alochol, disrespectful? I thank therapies for positive my son´s ADD behavior.






Noooooooooooooo - Never spank problematic child. I am glad that you did not spank him. I spanked my ADD son when he was a little. Therapy told me to not do that and give me positive tips. She explained that it create a huge problem when problematic child (ADD, ADHD, different disorders) become teenager or hit puberty. Aggressive, Volience, etc.

I stop to spank him after learn from therapy.

My younger son don´t have ADD as his oldest brother. I took therapy´s tips to use form of discipline my younger son without spank him. Now he is 11 years old. I really have NO problem with him and his respectful behavior. It belong good patience to positive my both sons behavior.





I myself has a ADD child... NO, I disagree with you.




No need, I already deal with ADD son... :) His ADD behavior did not show very much at his teenage time which is great... Yes work hard to improve his behavior but worth... :)



I am sorry to say that I am surprised that Experts said this to you? It look like that they don´t enjoy their job to deal with problematic children or what? If the people who want to become Expert to help ADD or any disorder children then job is right for them.




Yes I remember. I never, never, never forget how I had been suffer being spanked with belt, padding, brush, hands... Horrible... I am really glad that caption and phyiscal punishment are banned in many EU countries.





Can you explain how well-being child come from without spanking when spanking banned in many EU countries?http://www.alldeaf.com/current-events/38977-usa-second-worst-place-raise-kids.html




Again, I raise an ADD son either. :) I know what it alike... Thank God that his ADD behavior is gone... perhaps a very little... not really very much...

Sure, our children are no angel but it´s great to positive their behavior.




Liebling,

I had my son and myself both in seperate counseling sessions. One for him and one for me and then we had home based counseling too. Home based is where the counselors come to your home and observe the behavior at home.

The reason they couldnt offer any suggestions was because I was already doing everything they would have suggested that I do. I had him on a strict diet, a very rigid schedule, positive reinforcements, what they called the 9 steps- I was already doing it. I did everything I could to straighten him up.

I believe I should have spanked him and maybe just maybe it would have helped correct him more.

The school had trouble with him too Liebling. They would call me and ask me what to do. Im like I dont know and neither does the counselors but here is what I do at home.


We were in counseling for a total of 7 years Liebling. It started showing up when he was about 3 and then I seeked counseling for him when he was 5 an we continued with counseling till they day they took him out of our home.

BUT Liebling what speaks VOLUMES to me is that CHILDRENS SERVICES couldnt handle him either! And they were the so called experts! They decided to take him out of his foster home and put him somewhere tougher to deal with him! Liebling if they couldn't deal with him, these so called experts, then how was I to do so?

Luckily now he is 16 and has grown out of the ADD. As typically happens with juvenile ADD children. More than likely your son just grew out of the ADD behaviour. Very rarely, * it does happen* but rarely does a child display ADD behaviour into adulthood.

I was spanked as a child with many different items, and I am fine today despite that happening. I grew up respecting adults and didnt really give my mother too much trouble growing up. I do not believe my mother abused me through spankings even when she used a switch. I mean sure it hurt but it sure got her point across also.

I used to be just like you though Liebling and not believe in spankings. But since then my mind is definitely changed.
 
I did nice spank her cute butt when she was nasty ;):) I think did spank her twice since she is 6 years old now.. Mostly of time talking her! :)
 
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