Sould hearing people that know ASL use sign all the time if a Deaf person is present?

M

mymsoccer5

New Member
Joined
Jun 3, 2007
Messages
1
Reaction score
0
Sould hearing people that know ASL use sign all the time if a Deaf person is present? Wy or why not? Please leave your name (first and last), mode of communication, where you went to high school, occupation, and if you are Deaf or hard of hearing, and if you want age (optional but prefered) . THIS IS FOR A SCHOOL PROJECT, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT GREATLY IF YOU FILLED IT OUT!.
 
Well yeah I do see them signing and sometime not! :)

I did has nasty argument with my bossy about signing ASL because He worked at deaf group home.. I told him that he is just lazy :(:(
 
It is up to hearing people if they choose to learn ASL or not as long as they know how to write on the notepads. It is a free country.
 
My sign language instructor taught me that if a hearing or deafblind person knows sign and is in the presence of a D/deaf person that it's only polite for them to sign. I agree.

After I learned enough sign to communicate with other D/deaf and deafblind people and started attending Deaf events in my community, I always made it a point to sign. I also did this at my local deafblind center when I didn't know if there was a Deaf person in the same room I was in.

I think the only exception to a hearing person always signing in the presence of a D/deaf person would be if the D/deaf person told the hearing person that it was okay not to sign.
 
Think of it this way.

Should a deaf person (who can talk) use his or her own voice in front of hearing people all the time?
 
VamPyroX said:
Think of it this way.

Should a deaf person (who can talk) use his or her own voice in front of hearing people all the time?
Click to expand...


I don't know because deaf people are somewhere at disadvantage if communication is occurring. Deaf people already missed out a lot because they can't hear the surrounding conversation and noises and it's at least to me seems nice and respectful if they at least sign.

Does deaf people generally get paranoid if they don't know what people are saying? It happens to me sometimes, especially if they look at me and turn away and continue their conversation. It does leave you wondering where it never happens to hearing people unless they were whispering.

But I never saw any rules that say they must. My interpreters told me they always try to do that because that's how they were taught.

I think it's more required if they were your own family member rather than just a stranger.
 
If the deaf person was involved in the situation I would sign, no questions asked.

If there was a conversation with myself, a deaf friend, and another hearing person who does not sign, I would try to interpret the conversation to the best of my abilities.
 
Silentwolfdog said:
I don't know because deaf people are somewhere at disadvantage if communication is occurring. Deaf people already missed out a lot because they can't hear the surrounding conversation and noises and it's at least to me seems nice and respectful if they at least sign.

Does deaf people generally get paranoid if they don't know what people are saying? It happens to me sometimes, especially if they look at me and turn away and continue their conversation. It does leave you wondering where it never happens to hearing people unless they were whispering.

But I never saw any rules that say they must. My interpreters told me they always try to do that because that's how they were taught.

I think it's more required if they were your own family member rather than just a stranger.
Click to expand...
It's the same thing.

If a hearing person can sign and a deaf person is around, should that hearing person sign so that the deaf person can understand what's going on? Well, that would be a burden on the hearing person and everyone who has thought about learning sign language. Expecting that hearing person to sign would be like telling every hearing person that's learning sign language... "If you're learning sign language, be prepared to sign at all times whenever a deaf person is present." That wouldn't be fair. We have our own preferences of communication. If that deaf person is part of the conversation, then signing should be included to help the deaf person understand. If the deaf person isn't part of the conversation, then signing shouldn't be required.

The same thing applies to deaf people who can speak... like myself. If a deaf person is signing to another deaf person and a hearing person is involved with the conversation, then voicing should be included so that the hearing person can understand what is going on.
 
I'm a little confused by the question. Do you mean if a deaf person is involved in the discussion or a small group conversation, or if a deaf person just happens to be in the vincinity? Yes to the first, no to the second.
 
Oh well I guess too bad for deaf people then.

My interpreters, as soon as they entered the room they began to sign. I always asked them why would they do that. They told me that's a proper thing to do. But come to think of it, I have never saw them use voice when they have conversation with me (I am not too sure on that since I can't hear!) I am going to ask them the next time I see them.

But I know there's no real rule about this situation. But I would think that deaf people would respect someone more if they sign, whatever it's a burden or not.

Everything in this world causes some kind of burden. But I never force anyone outside my family to sign so. I just feel bad for deaf people, that's all and no wonder some people treated me like I am not very aware of things because I don't have a chance to listen in other people's conversation (hearing people that is.)

Hearing people certainly have an advantage there.

That's why I would encourage hearing people who know sign language to use it, but would I force them to use it? Nah.

I can't talk but I would think if I can talk then I would try my best to use it (depend on situation such as I would use it if I was in classroom but not in the movie theatre or mall) I would use it when there's likely that people who can listen to conversation. I don't see any reasons to make conversation private and if it was, then do it in room where there's no people.

I am just type of person who don't want to make lives harder for other people, because I know I have suffered because of the way things are.

This type of question is more of opinion, I guess.
 
mymsoccer5 said:
Sould hearing people that know ASL use sign all the time if a Deaf person is present?
Click to expand...

I was taught that it is polite to sign if a deaf signer is present and is near enough to the conversation that if he were hearing, he'd be able to hear it. So, if I'm sitting at a table with someone and way across the room there are deaf people, I'm probably not going to sign, but if I'm at a party and there are deaf people mingling, I will sign and speak with a hearing person.

I'm an interpreter and a teacher and I am hearing. I'm sorry but I'm not going to provide other personal details.
 
Interpretrator said:
I was taught that it is polite to sign if a deaf signer is present and is near enough to the conversation that if he were hearing, he'd be able to hear it. So, if I'm sitting at a table with someone and way across the room there are deaf people, I'm probably not going to sign, but if I'm at a party and there are deaf people mingling, I will sign and speak with a hearing person.
Click to expand...

That's what I am thinking. Do you ever think it as a burden for you? I am just curious.
 
Interpretrator said:
I was taught that it is polite to sign if a deaf signer is present and is near enough to the conversation that if he were hearing, he'd be able to hear it. So, if I'm sitting at a table with someone and way across the room there are deaf people, I'm probably not going to sign, but if I'm at a party and there are deaf people mingling, I will sign and speak with a hearing person.

I'm an interpreter and a teacher and I am hearing. I'm sorry but I'm not going to provide other personal details.
Click to expand...

That's what I was trying to say when I referred to small groups, or just in the vicinity. For instance, if I am with one of my deaf students outside class, and a hearing student comes up to ask me a question, I immediately start signing. If my deaf student were standing a distance away, and not involved, I would not necessarily sign.
 
Silentwolfdog said:
That's what I am thinking. Do you ever think it as a burden for you? I am just curious.
Click to expand...

Nah. I think of it as an opportunity to practice my sim-com skills. :) Of course one language or the other always suffers, but if the deaf people around are really not paying attention I'll let the ASL droop a little, or if they enter the conversation I'll focus more on the signing. It's good practice to be flexible.
 
IMO- hearing people should not have to learn sign unless they worked around alot of deaf or if they hung around mostly deaf people by choice.

I think for most hearing people if a deaf person walked into the room and knew that everyone else in the room was hearing I think they would whip out and pen and paper and communicate that way (or even a QWERTY phone in some cases).

But if the deaf walked into a room where there was a mix of hearing and deaf people then I would expect most people in the room to know sign and all would sign to converse.

but if a hearing person walked into a room where everyone else was deaf, I would expect that hearing person to know sign.

As for sim com, I think it is a great idea if the particular school or place had a mix of both deaf and hearing people. This way everyone gets the chance to communicate and no one is left out although the terp may fry his or her brain from the continous fast pace interpreting so that conversation could take place.
 
if im in a room with any deaf person....wether it be across the room, or in another room and they can see in through the door.....if they catch me not signing i catch hell about it.

someone i work with stated that anyonein the same room as him, regardless of wether or not he is watching us, or reading a book, or completly turned away from us, we still must sign, or we will catch hell about it.

if i breathe and dont sign that i took a breath.....i catch hell about it. it gets ridiculous sometimes.
 
Sould hearing people that know ASL use sign all the time if a Deaf person is present?
Click to expand...

My question is "Why-Not"?

I'm not sure I understand the significance of the original question.
 
Ariakkas said:
if im in a room with any deaf person....wether it be across the room, or in another room and they can see in through the door.....if they catch me not signing i catch hell about it.

someone i work with stated that anyonein the same room as him, regardless of wether or not he is watching us, or reading a book, or completly turned away from us, we still must sign, or we will catch hell about it.

if i breathe and dont sign that i took a breath.....i catch hell about it. it gets ridiculous sometimes.
Click to expand...

Then you should tell him that everytime he farts or takes a breath when your in the room, you'd better know about it, and he has to speak...... :giggle:
 
If I understand the question, it is NOT about whether or not hearing people should LEARN sign, but it's about if they already KNOW sign should they use it or not...those are two very different questions, it seems you are asking about the second one...
 
Back
Top