Principal bans parents from pro-'gay' seminar

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Administrators at North Newton High School in Newton, Mass., have held a seminar for students that explained how to know they are homosexual, but banned parents from attending.

"It's absolutely insane," parent Brian Camenker, who also is chief of the Mass Resistance organization, said. "I met with the principal. She told me no parents are allowed. She said only by invitation. I asked, 'Can I be invited.' She said, 'No.'"

The event, called "ToBeGlad Day," was the school's "Transgender Bisexual Gay Lesbian Awareness Day," and students were given a pamphlet that explains what it means to be "gay," tells students how they are supposed to know if they are "gay," and responds to the question, "Will I ever have sex?"

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News of the event comes just a day after WND reported on a case at Deerfield High School in Deerfield, Ill., where school officials ordered their 14-year-old freshman class into a "gay" indoctrination seminar, after having them sign a confidentiality agreement promising not to tell their parents.

"This is very, very scary stuff," Camenker said. "The pamphlet also lists places kids can go to meet homosexuals. How would something like this affect a kid who might be going through a confused and vulnerable time in his life? Well … the school isn't interested in what YOU think."


North Newton High Principal Jen Price

The Newton principal, Jennifer Price, didn't return a message WND left seeking a comment on the event.

But Camenker said it supports his argument for the state's Parents Rights Bill, S2063, which would toughen the state's parental notification requirements, an issue he's urging state lawmakers to act on as soon as possible.

He said the information about the brochure, a copy of which is available at the Mass Resistance Website, already has been e-mailed to each member of the Massachusetts Legislature.

"We've gotten a reaction from representatives who have gotten calls," he said. "At least one is angry at us for the vehemence of the call [the representative got from a constituent]. I explained I didn't tell people to be rude."

"But if this is going on in public schools, you can't be surprised [if people are upset]," he said.

"It's absolutely insane."

He said some of the topics of the seminar, as reported by the student newspaper, included: "It's natural to be gay," "Nature vs. Nurture," and "Fabulous Gay History."

That report from the student publication, he said, was the only way for parents to get information about what is going on, since they were banned on orders of the principal from attending.

"The first step in coming out is to tell yourself that you are gay and say, 'That's OK,'" the brochure tells students. "Later you may want to tell someone else – someone you trust to be understanding and sympathetic…"

Certainly not one of those homophobic religious people, however. "I had to reject a lot of negative heterosexual and religious programming that made me feel lousy about myself as a gay person," said a testimony from "Bill, age 18."

The school also promised help there. "Many faculty members have joined Bridges, a faculty/student group devoted to eliminating homophobia and making our school a more accepting place," it said.

"No matter what people say, you are normal," said a testimony from "Nathan, age 19." "God created you, and you were made in this image. If you are non-religious, you were born and you have a purpose, and being gay is only part of it."

The school's information also included some very practical advice. "Do not shoot up drugs… Avoid anal intercourse… Use condoms whenever you engage in anal or oral sex (or vaginal sex if you have sex with women)…."

But of course, "Sex should only happen between mature individuals who care about each other. You will know when the time is right." The brochure was written with the help of the Boston Alliance of Gay and Lesbian Youth and produced by The Campaign to End Homophobia.

A second brochure included 16 pages of Website addresses, telephone numbers and other information through which students can reach "gay" organizations, law firms, advocacy groups, support clubs and others.

It was made available through the National Youth Advocacy Coalition, which calls itself a "social justice organization that advocates for and with young people who are lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, or questioning…"

"It is very scary," Camenker said.

He also said coming on the heels of the David Parker court case, this is what parents in Massachusetts should expect from their public schools.

In that case, U.S. District Judge Mark L. Wolf dismissed a civil rights lawsuit brought by Parker and ordered that it is reasonable, indeed there is an obligation, for public schools to teach young children to accept and endorse homosexuality.

The lawsuit was brought by parents of children in the Lexington, Mass., Estabrook Elementary School alleging the school violated state law and civil rights by indoctrinating their children about a lifestyle they, as Christians, teach is immoral.

Camenker's group called the ruling "every parent's nightmare."

"In the ruling, Wolf makes the absurd claim that normalizing homosexuality to young children is 'reasonably related to the goals of preparing students to become engaged and productive citizens in our democracy.' According to Wolf, this means teaching 'diversity' which includes 'differences in sexual orientation.'

"In addition, Wolf makes the odious statement that the Parkers' only options are (1) send their kids to a private school, (2) home-school their kids, or (3) elect a majority of people to the School Committee who agree with them. Can you imagine a federal judge in the Civil Rights era telling blacks the same thing – that if they can't be served at a lunch counter they should just start their own restaurant, or elect a city council to pass laws that reflect the U.S. Constitution?" the organization said.

Lawyers for the families said they already had planned an appeal of the judge's opinion.

Wolf concluded that even allowing Christians to withdraw their children from classes or portions of classes where their religious beliefs were being violated wasn't a reasonable expectation.

"An exodus from class when issues of homosexuality or same-sex marriage are to be discussed could send the message that gays, lesbians, and the children of same-sex parents are inferior and, therefore, have a damaging effect on those students," he opined.

Matt Barber, policy director for cultural issues for Concerned Women for America, called the Deerfield case unbelievable.

"It's not enough that students at Deerfield High are being exposed to improper and offensive material relative to unhealthy and high-risk homosexual behavior, but they've essentially been told by teachers to lie to their parents about it," he said.

The situation, according to district Supt. George Fornero, was partly "a mistake." He said the confidentiality agreement wasn't right, and the district would be honest with parents in the future.
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Wow..

A few months ago, my daughter came home and told me that there was this one girl who has two mothers and that was stupid. Right there, I knew I had to teach her about it otherwise I would allow her to participate in the bullying of that girl. So, I explained to her about gay/lesbain culture without going into specifies about sex and that it was ok. I told her how she would feel if her friends made fun of her cuz I am deaf.

Well, a few weeks later, I find out that some parents were furious at the school about my daughter and her other friends "teaching" their kids about homosexuality and made threats to sue either the school or us parents who "told our kids to teach other kids about homosexuality" but the school got it taken care of. Wow..some parents have to realize they cant shelter their kids from everything that is against their religion. Give me a break! :ugh3:
 
Wow..

A few months ago, my daughter came home and told me that there was this one girl who has two mothers and that was stupid. Right there, I knew I had to teach her about it otherwise I would allow her to participate in the bullying of that girl. So, I explained to her about gay/lesbain culture without going into specifies about sex and that it was ok. I told her how she would feel if her friends made fun of her cuz I am deaf.

Well, a few weeks later, I find out that some parents were furious at the school about my daughter and her other friends "teaching" their kids about homosexuality and made threats to sue either the school or us parents who "told our kids to teach other kids about homosexuality" but the school got it taken care of. Wow..some parents have to realize they cant shelter their kids from everything that is against their religion. Give me a break! :ugh3:
You did the right thing as a parent to talk to your own child about the situation. :) The other parents should speak to their own children, too, and explain it in a way that they feel is right for them. As long as your daughter and her friends weren't actually discussing sexual behaviors, then there should be no complaint.
 
What I don't like is the school being sneaky about the presentation and not allowing parents to be involved in deciding what's best for their own children.

I question why the school even has to have the "seminar". Most public schools complain that the students' grades are low because there's not even enough time and money to teach the basics to them. It is especially troubling that the children were forced to sign agreements to not tell their parents about the meeting. I think it's horrible that the school tried to come between the children and their parents. :mad:
 
Students and teachers in schools today are NOT allowed to speak out against the teaching of the homosexual agenda in the public school curriculum. Parents no longer have any input into what moral values their kids are taught in school. THAT, my friends, is scary as hell.
 
Oh lord.............Worldnetdaily is VERY VERY conservative. Take what it says with a grain of salt. I actually know about this whole sitution, and most of it is basicly very neutral gay awareness stuff. Like on the elementary school level its basicly "some people are in relatationships with someone of the same sex" sort of dealie.
I am familiar with Brian Cammeker. He thinks ANYTHING to do with homosexuality is automaticly very descriptive explict "how to" porn.
Virtually ALL GLB public school awareness stuff is not that explict. Hell.........the sex ed stuff is far more explict then this stuff. Most GLB stuff is basicly awareness...........Why is that so damn controversial? There are GLB people out there...........it's not like we're child molesters or murderers or whatever!
 
*total speechless after read those thread here*.


Wow..

A few months ago, my daughter came home and told me that there was this one girl who has two mothers and that was stupid. Right there, I knew I had to teach her about it otherwise I would allow her to participate in the bullying of that girl. So, I explained to her about gay/lesbain culture without going into specifies about sex and that it was ok. I told her how she would feel if her friends made fun of her cuz I am deaf.

Well, a few weeks later, I find out that some parents were furious at the school about my daughter and her other friends "teaching" their kids about homosexuality and made threats to sue either the school or us parents who "told our kids to teach other kids about homosexuality" but the school got it taken care of. Wow..some parents have to realize they cant shelter their kids from everything that is against their religion. Give me a break! :ugh3:


wow :ugh3:

You did the right thing as a parent to positive your daughter about those situation. The other parents should do the same thing as well.
 
What happened to the old saying that goes like this: If you can't say anything nice, then don't say anything at all. That's what I am trying to teach my son right now.
 
Wow..

A few months ago, my daughter came home and told me that there was this one girl who has two mothers and that was stupid. Right there, I knew I had to teach her about it otherwise I would allow her to participate in the bullying of that girl. So, I explained to her about gay/lesbain culture without going into specifies about sex and that it was ok. I told her how she would feel if her friends made fun of her cuz I am deaf.

Well, a few weeks later, I find out that some parents were furious at the school about my daughter and her other friends "teaching" their kids about homosexuality and made threats to sue either the school or us parents who "told our kids to teach other kids about homosexuality" but the school got it taken care of. Wow..some parents have to realize they cant shelter their kids from everything that is against their religion. Give me a break! :ugh3:

how do you know they are calling because of religion? Religion is not the only reason. It could be for other reasons too. Growing up, I have seen some real rednecks who absolutely do not like gays. They are not a churchgoers. It is their lifestyle (beer, women, and sports) they worshipped the ground on. They ignore God and they don't want to confess they are sinners and repent. Some of them actually said they rather be in hell where all the fun and good looking women are at. They hang out with buddies and drink beer or chew tobacco (or smoke cigerettes) and make comments about anything that you could not believe. They don't like what they called "sissy" men (their words, not mine) and they don't want their boys to grow up as "sissy". They like making their boys tough. I seen it because I grew up in a redneck town.

parents just don't want their child to think it is ok to experiment sex, especially to see if they are homosexual or not.
 
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Gay awareness panel roils school
Some parents object to kids' discussion

By Lisa Black
Tribune staff reporter
Published March 8, 2007

Some parents have accused Deerfield High School of promoting a homosexual agenda by allowing gay students to speak before freshman classes about their personal experiences, cite research and invite questions.

Taking place in classrooms this week, the panel sessions are scheduled during a class called freshman advisory, which seeks to help students adjust to high school. The class is mandatory, but parents can choose to remove their child on days the lessons concern them, school officials said.
Since when does adjusting to high school require a panel session on homosexuality? This is totally unnecessary, politically motivated, one-sided, and a waste of time.

School officials say the parents are picking out one portion of a unit that helps students make the transition into high school, forge friendships and create a climate of acceptance. The class begins in fall by familiarizing freshmen with the school, its resources and lessons on improving study skills. Teachers move into touchier topics during the second half of the school year.
At the beginning of the freshman year, during the orientation assembly, simply stress that bullying of any kind will not be tolerated. Period. There's no need to give examples of every conceivable situation. If the faculty is really concerned about bullying and freshman transition, why do they wait until the second half of the school year?

Kevin Jennings, executive director of the New York-based Gay, Lesbian & Straight Education Network, commends the Deerfield program.
"We're not trying to tell people what to believe but how to behave," said Jennings, who described the Illinois Family Institute as one of several organizations trying to intimidate school districts.
That's ironic; if a Christian group were to say the same thing, "We're not trying to tell people what to believe but how to behave," they would be immediately kicked out of the school program.

Waltz said she asked school officials if she could sit in on the class. They declined, saying her presence would detract from the learning experience and instead offered to videotape the class and give her a copy.
That's an important difference from our Christian school. Parents are always welcome at all assemblies. There is nothing "secret" happening.

Laurie Higgins, a teacher's aide at Deerfield, said she, too, has complained to school administrators about the panel and her requests to have an opposing viewpoint presented have been denied.
Yep, one-sided.

This is more proof that Christians shouldn't send their kids to public schools. Public schools are not "parent-friendly."
 
Oh lord.............Worldnetdaily is VERY VERY conservative. Take what it says with a grain of salt.
Are you saying that the article is not true?

...Like on the elementary school level its basicly "some people are in relatationships with someone of the same sex" sort of dealie.
Why do elementary kids need to know about sexual "relationships", gay, straight, or otherwise?

...the sex ed stuff is far more explict then this stuff.
Two wrongs make a right?
 
Wow..

A few months ago, my daughter came home and told me that there was this one girl who has two mothers and that was stupid. Right there, I knew I had to teach her about it otherwise I would allow her to participate in the bullying of that girl. So, I explained to her about gay/lesbain culture without going into specifies about sex and that it was ok. I told her how she would feel if her friends made fun of her cuz I am deaf.

Well, a few weeks later, I find out that some parents were furious at the school about my daughter and her other friends "teaching" their kids about homosexuality and made threats to sue either the school or us parents who "told our kids to teach other kids about homosexuality" but the school got it taken care of. Wow..some parents have to realize they cant shelter their kids from everything that is against their religion. Give me a break! :ugh3:


You were simply being a responsible parent, and teaching your daughter toleance. You are to be commended. The parents who became upset are the type that raise the intolerant bullies. Its a shame there aren't more parents like you out there. Kids with any type of difference would certainly have much happier childhoods if there was.
 
Why do elementary kids need to know about sexual "relationships", gay, straight, or otherwise?

I guess it could be the reason why they have to positive students what kind of relationships we have because it should prevent them from bully/mock other students because of their parents' sexuality?

I do not against anything to teach students about sex education at school but I disagree to teach student without parental knowledge/involvement. The parents has the right to know what kind of education they are going to educate our children.
 
Wow, this is all confusing.

I think it's good that the school has a workshop to help students understand homosexuality because it is something that's often misunderstood when meeting another who is gay/lesbian from another community. (My hometown had a "slim to nothing" gay community. When I came to RIT, I met a lot of gays and lesbians. It was a bit overwhelming at first, but I quickly adapted since I'm open and don't discriminate quickly.)

As for forcing students to go, that's sticky. While requiring students to go to a workshop is important, it can be uncomfortable for some students and should be "encouraged" instead... especially when it comes to homosexuality.

As for not telling the parents, that's also sticky. Some parents are easily offended or objectionable to things when it comes to "non-academic" issues in school. Yes, they do have a right (in some ways) to know what goes on in school. However, it's for the kids' understanding and to learn on their own without the parents interfering.
 
in a way, I think the parents do have rights to know what is going on. What if they were having discussion about religion and told their kids not to discuss it at home?

But anyhow, the real reason is the same way nurses do. Nurses are not suppose to discuss private matters to anyone. (I was a nurse aide, and I had to sign a contract like that). I don't really think the school were hiding the seminar from the parents. I think they were trying to keep parents from nosing other people's personal life. and I think they were trying to tell the kids to respect other kids' privacy. But that's usually impossible if it is being discussed openly.
 
...But anyhow, the real reason is the same way nurses do. Nurses are not suppose to discuss private matters to anyone.
Yes, but that applies to personal private communications; one-on-one. A school assembly is an open event; everyone sees and hears everthing happening; nothing is private there.

... I don't really think the school were hiding the seminar from the parents.
Then why were the students told they couldn't tell their parents? That seems like "hiding" the seminar to me.

I think they were trying to keep parents from nosing other people's personal life.
How so? The panel was public, not private. A high school assembly is not "private."
 
Yes, but that applies to personal private communications; one-on-one.
Actually, no, I am not talking about one-on-one communication (if the patient did have concerns, I have to report it). I am taking about when I make a report or discuss the issue with a group head nurses. Other Nurse aides are allow to eave drop because they work with the patient too. We all can discuss about a patient in the hospital, but we can not discuss about the patient to outsiders or with each other. We can't go out to lunch and talk about a patient .The patient feel humiliated as it is just being in the hospital. Mostly they worry about if their body look funny or weird, or worry about how they act in the hospital (they can be cranky), and things like that. They are afraid they would be the subject of the conversation, like,"Oh my gosh, did you see the way her privates look!". If we ensure we will not talk about them, it help them feel better. What goes on in that hospital, stays in that hospital. I think they are trying to do the same thing with the seminar, to teach kids about not talking about other kids because they are different. But I could be wrong and I agree with the rest you said.
 
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Since when does adjusting to high school require a panel session on homosexuality? This is totally unnecessary, politically motivated, one-sided, and a waste of time.
Maybe b/c the gross majority of high schools out there are VERY homophobic? Reba, you obviously have NO CLUE whatsoever how homophobic public high schools are. GLB kids are tormented, beaten up, and harrassed up the wazoo (and not just ambigious "harassment)
This was probaly just an awareness seminar like "Hey look......these are REAL people you are hurting with your attitudes and behavoir!"


Are you saying that the article is not true?
No, but its interpretation of the real facts are very biased towards the VERY conservative view!
Why do elementary kids need to know about sexual "relationships", gay, straight, or otherwise?
They don't need to know about sexual relationships. The thing you're missing is that at an elementary school level it is NOT about sex. They are just introducing the concept that some people out there happen to have same sex relationships that are pretty much like the romantic relationships that a husband and wife have.
It is NOT about sex at ALL!!!!! It's simply about the diversity of relationships out there!
 
That's ironic; if a Christian group were to say the same thing, "We're not trying to tell people what to believe but how to behave," they would be immediately kicked out of the school program.

Oh yeah, you can bet your sweet patootie that's what would happen. When it comes to pushing the homosexual agenda in public schools, opposing viewpoints are not tolerated. So much for "tolerance".
 
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