Ssi . .

mld4ds said:
Cental, I suspect that you might be waiting for someone like Reba attacking or correcting me so that you do not want to be a big fool as a first person. Are you a real man or what??? Why? You are not familiar with SSI issue? If you become deaf or other disability, you would accept SSI.

BTW, I used to work for UPS. Why would I count packages when the stupid supersivor or your pervious position asked me for.....

Or maybe *gasp* I have a life outside of AD, and that life at the time just happened to involve working. Reba didn't even tackle any points that I addressed on or anything. This is just another case of you having a big head, and trying to discredit me. Stop taking everything personally. If I qualified for SSI, and I had bills to pay and and was incapable of working or finding a job, yes I would take it, but that would be a very unlikely case.

How do you know? Most of hearing people decided to join at any military school for free education. What about deaf people who wish to get a free education, free housing, free food for four years at school? They do have to pay all or some of college expenses. Only if they are lucky to get a full scholorships or some. They are also provided some assistances by VR.

What are you talking about?! This has nothing to do with the topic. I don't agree with my tax dollars going to pay for military spending, but that is not the topic. The topic is Social Security.

There are enough student loan and federal grant programs for students now, to where they should not need to depend on a system like SSI.

You got that right "Recycled." Why are you whining for? You got your money back when you work for relay service while paying your phone bill. Smart boy, you got big chuck of paycheck and you only pay little bit of phone bill.

I'm "whining" because I have to work for my money. People who sit at home mooching off SSI, not working or even attempting to look for a job, aren't. And my Social Security taxes each month go to support that. It has nothing to do with who signs my paychecks. It has to do with the fact there are people getting paid more than I am to sit at home, and do nothing. [/quote]

If you do not believe the SSI for lazy deafie, please write a formal letter to your Congresspeople. Do it...

How do you know I haven't already.

Well, why don't you tell any deafie that you are againist SSI:
1. college student
2. employement seeker
3. unwedded mother/father
4. job interviewee
5. AllDeafies
6. multi-disabilities
7. part-time/seasonal employee
8. poverty in rural/small town
9. race/color

Remember the people with SSI that you will be earning your paycheck from interpreting service....

Are you still respectfully disagree that you will be interpreting for deafie with SSI?

I already interpret for people like this. I think you forget. I'm a relay operator. I have to handle calls to Social Security on daily basis. And guess what. It doesn't phase me. Never once has the thought of interjecting my opinion in these calls ever popped up in my mind once.
 
Liebling:-))) said:
I disagree that working people collect SSI, SSA etc because they have job… Why collect both for?

I can’t see the sense why the healthy people abuse the government system to spent nonsense thing like drugs, drink, etc. I have no understand for that.

Yes, it’s understandable when incurable illness or severe handicapped people who have good reasons to unfit to go work rest of their life to collect SSI but good and healthy people? *sigh*

1. College student - A full/part-time college student can work part time while do obtaining the SSI+. Ensure that he/she can not work over 25 hours a week or risk to lose some their amount of SSI+. There is nothing wrong with it. It is great benefits for them to have SSI while in school. They do need some health food, warm clothes, paying housing rent expenses, etc. Look at the hearing students are on free rides for expensive colleges. That's why they decided to join the military forces or work for federal government so that they would waive their college debts. That's not fair for deafies...

2. Employment seeker - They may not have any unemployment checks since they never work long term in their careers earlier.

3. Unwedded mother/father - Oop! Kids are coming on the way...Yikes! You can not blame unwedded mothers. Look at many deadbeat fathers for not supporting their kids...

4. Job interviewee - Deaf job seekers are despair looking for the nice jobs with great benefits and handsome salaries. Not many of them are not successfully in the final stage of job interviewing. They do need to polish their resumes and improve their communication skills. I wish them good success

5. AllDeafies - Some of them are on SSI+…..

6. Multi-disabilities – Who is goanna to hire individual with multi-disabilities? I do wish them to work better environmental offices. I strongly suggest them to have additional college degrees so that they would grab great positons.

7. Part-time/seasonal employee – Everyone knows why deafies can not purse full time positions. They do not want to risk their SSI+ if they take full time positions. They do have good reasons why they can not work many hours due to their health issues. For seasonal positions, those are perfect for college students to make more money to pay off their college debt, personal debt, etc.

8. Poverty in rural/small town – Everyone knows why there is no great pay in small town. Yes, deafies live in rural for very low housing rent cost. They may not have to worry about food since they do tend their vegetable garden. They do hunt rather than paying the meat at food stores.

9. Race/color – Who is goanna to hire African/Asian/Indian/White who is deaf? Come on, that is pretty discriminating against their color of skin. Notice between small towns and big cities… It is better for them to get SSI+ than nothing. I truly want them to be successful business people no matter what color…

BTW, Cental See above...
 
apathrev said:
If I qualified for SSI, and I had bills to pay and and was incapable of working or finding a job, yes I would take it, but that would be a very unlikely case.

Bravo, you accept. What's a big fussy over this SSI issue? :thumb:
My hearing friend from my high school got accident in the food store. He lost his toes. He applied for SSI+ and got it while studying at the state university. Yeah, that's a pretty strange why SSI govt approved his application since he can not work on manual jobs dues to his balancing. That's why he lived in a small town with big univeristy.

apathrev said:
What are you talking about?! This has nothing to do with the topic. I don't agree with my tax dollars going to pay for military spending, but that is not the topic. The topic is Social Security. There are enough student loan and federal grant programs for students now, to where they should not need to depend on a system like SSI.

Can we contact Congress to cut the spending on miltiary colleges so that the students have to pay? We need to trash G.I Bills. No? then you need to leave Deafies and others with disabilities alone.... Methinks that you need to move to any big city and be with deaf roommates. You will understand their realities...

apathrev said:
I'm "whining" because I have to work for my money. People who sit at home mooching off SSI, not working or even attempting to look for a job, aren't. And my Social Security taxes each month go to support that. It has nothing to do with who signs my paychecks. It has to do with the fact there are people getting paid more than I am to sit at home, and do nothing.

Yeah, quit whining like a bitchy boy. Deafies with SSI+ do pay taxes when they work....

apathrev said:
How do you know I haven't already (write a formal letter to Congresspeople).
That is why you are so dummy.... :D



apathrev said:
I already interpret for people like this. I think you forget. I'm a relay operator. I have to handle calls to Social Security on daily basis. And guess what. It doesn't phase me. Never once has the thought of interjecting my opinion in these calls ever popped up in my mind once.

Whoa...wait a minate...you as a relay operator do not interpret. What do you mean to interpret for Deafies? That is massively impossbile for you to understand their typing language. You mean to relay? Yes, your job is to relay the messages.

You do not know Deafie in situtations need to obtain the SSI+. See my post below:

1. College student - A full/part-time college student can work part time while do obtaining the SSI+. Ensure that he/she can not work over 25 hours a week or risk to lose some their amount of SSI+. There is nothing wrong with it. It is great benefits for them to have SSI while in school. They do need some health food, warm clothes, paying housing rent expenses, etc. Look at the hearing students are on free rides for expensive colleges. That's why they decided to join the military forces or work for federal government so that they would waive their college debts. That's not fair for deafies...

2. Employment seeker - They may not have any unemployment checks since they never work long term in their careers earlier.

3. Unwedded mother/father - Oop! Kids are coming on the way...Yikes! You can not blame unwedded mothers. Look at many deadbeat fathers for not supporting their kids...

4. Job interviewee - Deaf job seekers are despair looking for the nice jobs with great benefits and handsome salaries. Not many of them are not successfully in the final stage of job interviewing. They do need to polish their resumes and improve their communication skills. I wish them good success

5. AllDeafies - Some of them are on SSI+…..

6. Multi-disabilities – Who is goanna to hire individual with multi-disabilities? I do wish them to work better environmental offices. I strongly suggest them to have additional college degrees so that they would grab great positons.

7. Part-time/seasonal employee – Everyone knows why deafies can not purse full time positions. They do not want to risk their SSI+ if they take full time positions. They do have good reasons why they can not work many hours due to their health issues. For seasonal positions, those are perfect for college students to make more money to pay off their college debt, personal debt, etc.

8. Poverty in rural/small town – Everyone knows why there is no great pay in small town. Yes, deafies live in rural for very low housing rent cost. They may not have to worry about food since they do tend their vegetable garden. They do hunt rather than paying the meat at food stores.

9. Race/color – Who is goanna to hire African/Asian/Indian/White who is deaf? Come on, that is pretty discriminating against their color of skin. Notice between small towns and big cities… It is better for them to get SSI+ than nothing. I truly want them to be successful business people no matter what color…
 
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mld4ds said:
3. Unwedded mother/father - Oop! Kids are coming on the way...Yikes! You can not blame unwedded mothers. Look at many deadbeat fathers for not supporting their kids...


Thank-you! :kiss: At least mld4ds understands. ;)
 
*sigh* none talk about SSI workers but who is getting on SSI

some healthy person on SSI they cant blame, who knows their parents raised them poorly, teenagers dropped out or high school graduated never going to college or university cant afford e.t.c. they have low educations have hard to find jobs but like janiators, stocking at supermarkets still none hire, i know deaf guy is healthy but dropped out school he was working as janitor at sears and got fired, wtf! didnt clean well, ugh, why co workers pointed on him cleaning public restroom not turn in order with co workers so he refused he has done last time now he got fired, discriminated? eh, so he is back on SSI i didnt complain but understand :aw: other has worked in alaska for 6 months and got laid he would like to last working there, doesnt know why laid off, so he is back on SSI

why both SSI and wage, i know of part time job still getting n SSI, didnt u know in former USSR they, all, get both, not cheating, just government OK with it :dunno: maybe someday change
 
I disagree that working people collect SSI, SSA etc because they have job… Why collect both for?

if they work part time still no SSI, etc?
my old friend was living in Braunschveig as refugee for short he got benefit, not sure if it was alike SSI, for 6 mo to learn german language but he got troubles so deported back home country :aw:
 
mld4ds said:
Bravo, you accept. What's a big fussy over this SSI issue? :thumb:
My hearing friend from my high school got accident in the food store. He lost his toes. He applied for SSI+ and got it while studying at the state university. Yeah, that's a pretty strange why SSI govt approved his application since he can not work on manual jobs dues to his balancing. That's why he lived in a small town with big univeristy.

I think you overlooked the word "If." I would only accept it is a last resort of income. Only IF I was actually disabled, IF I had bills to pay, and IF I could not find a job, which is very unlikely, considering how truly easy it is to get a job.

There are other jobs besides manual jobs your friend could perform, so I can see why his application was denied.



Can we contact Congress to cut the spending on miltiary colleges so that the students have to pay? We need to trash G.I Bills. No? then you need to leave Deafies and others with disabilities alone.... Methinks that you need to move to any big city and be with deaf roommates. You will understand their realities...

The military functions for the defense of this nation. If anything, the military can be seen as a investment and serves a purpose. Some random deaf person living with their parents, receiving SSI checks that are more than my paycheck? Not so much.



Yeah, quit whining like a bitchy boy. Deafies with SSI+ do pay taxes when they work....

Yeah, we all pay taxes, but that doesn't justify the fact that I'm paying a specific tax that goes to help these people stay dependant upon government aid, and in many cases, do not need the income.


That is why you are so dummy.... :D

Oh, yes. One incorrect tense of a word, and I'm completely discredited. </sarcasm>

:roll: "Dummy" is a noun. Not an adjective. I've been told its rude to correct a deaf person's grammar mistakes, and I've seen you make many before, also. Push me more, and I'll feel free to correct them for you.

Whoa...wait a minate...you as a relay operator do not interpret. What do you mean to interpret for Deafies? That is massively impossbile for you to understand their typing language. You mean to relay? Yes, your job is to relay the messages.

Definition of interpet:
1 : to explain or tell the meaning of : present in understandable terms
2 : to conceive in the light of individual belief, judgment, or circumstance : CONSTRUE
3 : to represent by means of art : bring to realization by performance or direction <interprets a role>

I interpret typed messages into conversational voicing, with the intended expression and voice inflection the relay user intended. And in some cases, I have to translate ASL-influenced grammar into conversational English, and vice versa. Therefore, yes, I do interpret for deaf people.

You do not know Deafie in situtations need to obtain the SSI+. See my post below:

1. College student - A full/part-time college student can work part time while do obtaining the SSI+. Ensure that he/she can not work over 25 hours a week or risk to lose some their amount of SSI+. There is nothing wrong with it. It is great benefits for them to have SSI while in school. They do need some health food, warm clothes, paying housing rent expenses, etc. Look at the hearing students are on free rides for expensive colleges. That's why they decided to join the military forces or work for federal government so that they would waive their college debts. That's not fair for deafies...{/quote]

Like I said before, there are so many scholarship, student loan, government grants, and financial aid programs available for students today, it is unnecessary for a deaf student to depend on SSI while attending school. My sister just recieved a $10,000 student loan earlier this year.

2. Employment seeker - They may not have any unemployment checks since they never work long term in their careers earlier.

Again, I've addressed this already. I'm referring to those who are capable of working, and do not. This is much the same situation with the abuse of welfare, in which one is exptected to search for employment, but puts no effort into looking. Tighter regulations to be implemented to prevent this kind of abuse.

3. Unwedded mother/father - Oop! Kids are coming on the way...Yikes! You can not blame unwedded mothers. Look at many deadbeat fathers for not supporting their kids...

My mother raised my sister and I without my father ever being involved in my life. He still owes over $10,000 in child support. My mother put both me and my sister through private school, and provided for us on her own with no financial help from anyone.

4. Job interviewee - Deaf job seekers are despair looking for the nice jobs with great benefits and handsome salaries. Not many of them are not successfully in the final stage of job interviewing. They do need to polish their resumes and improve their communication skills. I wish them good success

If they "despair looking for the nice jobs," that's their own perogative and problem.

5. AllDeafies - Some of them are on SSI+…..[/quotes]

What about them? Miss P is a prime example of why I am opposed to SSI for all deaf people.

6. Multi-disabilities – Who is goanna to hire individual with multi-disabilities? I do wish them to work better environmental offices. I strongly suggest them to have additional college degrees so that they would grab great positons.

Again, you're playing copy and paste with my words. I am speaking out against those who, in all actuality, do not need SSI, and in fact abuse it. If you can't work, you can't work. Such as TweetyBird said, she has a doctor's order not too work. But on the other hand. look at a person like RJR: deaf, and a quadraplegic. He's accomplished to much already, and will be attending college next year.

7. Part-time/seasonal employee – Everyone knows why deafies can not purse full time positions. They do not want to risk their SSI+ if they take full time positions. They do have good reasons why they can not work many hours due to their health issues. For seasonal positions, those are perfect for college students to make more money to pay off their college debt, personal debt, etc.

So because they're trying to be less dependant upon government aid, they're paid less? That is not right.

8. Poverty in rural/small town – Everyone knows why there is no great pay in small town. Yes, deafies live in rural for very low housing rent cost. They may not have to worry about food since they do tend their vegetable garden. They do hunt rather than paying the meat at food stores.

I'm from Tennessee. I'm well aware of this, and as I've stated over and over, "if you can't work, you can't work."

9. Race/color – Who is goanna to hire African/Asian/Indian/White who is deaf? Come on, that is pretty discriminating against their color of skin. Notice between small towns and big cities… It is better for them to get SSI+ than nothing. I truly want them to be successful business people no matter what color…

So all potential hirers are automatically assumed to be racists?

mld, maybe you're heart is in the right place, but you sure do take everything far too personal.
 
mld4ds said:
... The hearing students also do not owe any college expense. Moreover, they have not paid any penny in college tuition fee....
But they pay back with six years of their lives in military service after graduation.


Most of deafies with SSI attend to college with/without VR support.
Maybe it is different in other states. The deafies that I know who collect SSI also get SC Lottery financial aid and Pell Grants for college. They get all their interpreting services free.

I paid all my ITP expenses out of pocket; no grants, no loans, no scholarships. I'm not complaining; I'm just explaining.
 
mld4ds said:
Cental, I suspect that you might be waiting for someone like Reba attacking or correcting me ....
I am sorry that you feel I was "attacking" you. I didn't mean to do that. I was just trying to clarify your statements about the military. Too many people get the impression that military people get freebie benefits that they don't earn. Actually, military benefits are given dollar amounts and are counted as part of their compensation package, instead of giving them higher wages.
 
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You huys getting uptight over able-bodied deaf people getting SSI/SSDI should get more uptight over the government workers who approve them.

Another thought:
Most Deaf people on SSI/SSDI now would probably end up homeless or dependent on family without it. It's a fact of life that discrimination in hiring and the "glass ceiling" exist. Although I agree that they should work instead, I am not at all sure that cutting them off, though, would be good for society.

(Before anyone asks: Yes, I receive SSDI. I am DHH and also suffer from a nerve condition that has forced me into a wheelchair, among the other things it has done to me. I hope to re-enter the workfkorce in '06 or '07.)
 
diehardbiker65 said:
This is misleading! Nope, 3,100 dollars is false! Here is how it is calculated, first of 85 dollars is not counted from income, then for every 2 dollars you earn from work, then a dollar is cut from SSI check. Here is just an example

SSI check $580 dollars
wage from work 285.00 in a month
minus 85 is 200, then divided them by half,
that leaves 100, then minus 100 from 580, so that leaves you
480 dollars from SSI

No 9 months grace period for SSI.

For SSDI, totally different formula. 9 months trial is granted in a lifetime. if you work at least 20 hours a week, and earns more than 850 dollars a month, you disqualified for SSDI check. That is it.


I HONESTLY THINK YOUR RIGHT ABOUT IT~
 
sata_rupa_tara said:
Hi there
Heres a few things I know about recieving SSI as a deaf person. You need to have a bi -lateral profound hearing loss. You recieve whatever the maximun cash grant is per month if you are not working or your parents are not working (if they are a minor). When you start bringing in an income they start deducting money from your monthly SSI allowance. You still continue to get medical benefits when you are working as long as it does not exceed a certain amount monthly,,I think you can make somewhere around $3100 without having med benefits stop. I also know that I should have been informed by SOMEone that my son can recieve SSI when he was diagnosed ,,, not years later.
Hope that helps a bit

Tara
I WISH I COULD GET $3100 A MONTH BUT IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY :pissed:
 
The only thing interesting about Ticket to Work is it exends the trial work period from 9 months to 5 years. Richard[/QUOTE said:
Actually, it is if after you have passed the trial work period of nine months within one year with the same employer (no longer consequetive 9 months), then if you work 9 more months within a five year period you can be taken off SSI/SSDI. I know, just went through it.
 
TweetyBird said:
well, since i have ssi and ssd, i have a reason that i cant work cuz of under my dr order, i have a diease back so i dont lazy around here, i am making crafts and sell, and help around here clean... i been go shopping for my mom what she need...


so some people cant work since under dr order.. they have reasons....

I totally agree with you... I'm the same here
 
Cassbugs said:
is there a way to get more than $600 a month from ssi?? :lol:

Nah, SSI isn't perfect but it's count depends on income.
 
Cassbugs said:
I WISH I COULD GET $3100 A MONTH BUT IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY :pissed:

Yea, I wish that get alot of money from SSI. :deal:
 
Cassbugs said:
is there a way to get more than $600 a month from ssi?? :lol:
Yes... It's called 'working'. :) I know, it must be a foreign concept to some... Moreover, if you work for a specified period of time (5+ years?), such disabled individuals may be eligible for SSDI monthly benefits with higher payouts.
 
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