'Major terrorist' plot broken up by Canadian and U.S. authorities

diehardbiker said:
With what? Is there physical any evidence found that are planning to use to derail the train? I don't care what evidence it was but is there evidence, answer in Y or N is sufficient. But so far the answer seems to be pointing at N.

Derail the train requires some kind of equipment to make it happen, of no equipment then it is all talk and the talk is CHEAP as ass.
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i of opinion many cops are total half wits but on this point not sure i agree,how much evidence do suicide bomber need,are you only going do something when they got bomb detonator,it very grey area
 
It takes more than one stuff to make bomb, and takes time to assemble them, cause you know if you rush you will never know once you made mistake. This gives investigators enough time to WAIT until they actually ordered or bought any bomb making related materials then that is good enough to press charge. But have they got evidence supporting the conversation intercepted over the net? That is what I am asking.
 
diehardbiker said:
It takes more than one stuff to make bomb, and takes time to assemble them, cause you know if you rush you will never know once you made mistake. This gives investigators enough time to WAIT until they actually ordered or bought any bomb making related materials then that is good enough to press charge. But have they got evidence supporting the conversation intercepted over the net? That is what I am asking.
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Learn to be patient!
 
WHAT? Cops are the one that needs to learn to be patience and wait for hard evidence to show up. They didn't, and for one thing. I ain't cop!

If the news is exact what it is said, it will never a case in the court to begin with. I know how court works. They do not want hear the talk, they want hard evidence.

CrazyPaul said:
Learn to be patient!
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diehardbiker said:
This is why Tousi and I were confused on this one. Again, its Canadian, meaning their government is socialism, they can decide whatever they want to which is NOT good government.
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Let me clarify a few points. First Canada does not have socialist government, it is a constitutional monarchy with a democratic parliament. The government cannot decide whatever they want anymore than the US government can. Secondly, the two accused have been watched and investigated for many months. The long, ongoing investigation involved Canadian law enforcement agencies, the FBI and the US Department of Homeland Security. Several members of the Muslim community also provided tips and support. These men were not just targeted out of the blue. Clearly there was enough evidence and enough support from all of the investigating agencies to arrest the men.
 
The news didn't say that they got solid evidence. I don't care what evidence, my question was very simple... did they have hard evidence. So far, I have not heard anything referring whether they got *HARD* evidence or not. Most of them were just, I can't even spell this word right... circumstantial evidence is not enough.

Journey said:
Let me clarify a few points. First Canada does not have socialist government, it is a constitutional monarchy with a democratic parliament. The government cannot decide whatever they want anymore than the US government can. Secondly, the two accused have been watched and investigated for many months. The long, ongoing investigation involved Canadian law enforcement agencies, the FBI and the US Department of Homeland Security. Several members of the Muslim community also provided tips and support. These men were not just targeted out of the blue. Clearly there was enough evidence and enough support from all of the investigating agencies to arrest the men.
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diehardbiker said:
This is why Tousi and I were confused on this one. Again, its Canadian, meaning their government is socialism, they can decide whatever they want to which is NOT good government.
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Wow, that's one of most ignorant statement that I have seen and you should start research about what socialism means.

Journey said:
Let me clarify a few points. First Canada does not have socialist government, it is a constitutional monarchy with a democratic parliament. The government cannot decide whatever they want anymore than the US government can. Secondly, the two accused have been watched and investigated for many months. The long, ongoing investigation involved Canadian law enforcement agencies, the FBI and the US Department of Homeland Security. Several members of the Muslim community also provided tips and support. These men were not just targeted out of the blue. Clearly there was enough evidence and enough support from all of the investigating agencies to arrest the men.
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Yes, that's correct, Canada isn't socialist country and they use mixed economy like US did.

It is pathetic when people used misconception on socialism.
 
diehardbiker said:
The news didn't say that they got solid evidence. I don't care what evidence, my question was very simple... did they have hard evidence. So far, I have not heard anything referring whether they got *HARD* evidence or not. Most of them were just, I can't even spell this word right... circumstantial evidence is not enough.
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Again, I told you that the Canadian authorities are tight-lipped about everything except that the guys are arrested so that's why news don't have more details until a court hearing. It's not like here in America where the cops, FBI, etc give too much info because mass media demands it. As Journey said, they have enough evidence which proves that the guys were planning the attack.

Be patient and you will learn more about it from news after the court hearing where the evidences will be presented to a judge. You may be surprised.
 
CrazyPaul said:
Again, I told you that the Canadian authorities are tight-lipped about everything except that the guys are arrested so that's why news don't have more details until a court hearing. It's not like here in America where the cops, FBI, etc give too much info because mass media demands it. As Journey said, they have enough evidence which proves that the guys were planning the attack.

Be patient and you will learn more about it from news after the court hearing where the evidences will be presented to a judge. You may be surprised.
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unless it goes to FISC. and you may be surprised what FISC is as you're about to google it now :)
 
Jaser's court appearance in Toronto was brief. He did not enter a plea and was given a new court date of May 23. He had a long beard and wore a black shirt with no tie. He was accompanied by his parents and brother. The court granted a request by his lawyer, John Norris, for a publication ban on future evidence and testimony
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Does that mean the court is not open to the public? If so, then we have to wait until the trial is over to find out more about evidences, witnesses' testimony, etc.
 
CrazyPaul said:
Does that mean the court is not open to the public? If so, then we have to wait until the trial is over to find out more about evidences, witnesses' testimony, etc.
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no.

Guidelines - Bans On Publication - Ministry of the Attorney General
The media is constitutionally entitled to publish information about court cases, but there are exceptions to this right. The court may (and frequently must) impose publication bans to protect the fairness and integrity of the case, the privacy or safety of a victim or witness, or the identity of a child or youth.
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in other word.... his lawyer wants to protect his client from "trial by media".
 
Jiro said:
of course not.
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To clarify, the court is open to the public, even news reporters but they are not allowed to publish it during the trial (until the trial is over). Correct? If so, I wonder if DHB can be patient much longer. :lol:
 
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