I am considering Gallaudet University

VamPyroX said:
Really? I knew a few people that were from NJ and they had full support. It depends on where you go.

I do know that VR counselors usually limit their support to one degree or up to 4 or 5 years.

Some students at NTID would take 7 years just to get an AAS degree. Because of that, they were denied support when they wanted to continue for a BS degree.
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NTID offers 3-years programs for AAS compared to community colleges which require only 2 years.

Anyway my friend from North Jersey got a full support (from VR in his hometown) for his bachelor's degree at RIT after graduating from NTID. My VR's policy was different from his VR, even though both were under the State of New Jersey. Weird!
 
CrazyPaul said:
NTID offers 3-years programs for AAS compared to community colleges which require only 2 years.

Anyway my friend from North Jersey got a full support (from VR in his hometown) for his bachelor's degree at RIT after graduating from NTID. My VR's policy was different from his VR, even though both were under the State of New Jersey. Weird!
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It is not weird at all because policies are different locally, statewide, and nationally. It is just like how laws can differ locally and statewide.
 
respectyoda said:
It is not weird at all because policies are different locally, statewide, and nationally. It is just like how laws can differ locally and statewide.
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Department of Vocational Rehabilation is under the state, not local or city. So what I think is that my friend's VR ignored the policy since my VR said that it could only pay for any training program up to AAS or it could be that my VR counselor was lying.

Example:

Washington State DVR - Welcome to DVR

Department of Labor and Workforce Development | Vocational Rehabilitation
 
CrazyPaul said:
Department of Vocational Rehabilation is under the state, not local or city. So what I think is that my friend's VR ignored the policy since my VR said that it could only pay for any training program up to AAS or it could be that my VR counselor was lying.

Example:

Washington State DVR - Welcome to DVR

Department of Labor and Workforce Development | Vocational Rehabilitation
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You missed my point. I said that each VR office has its local policy besides following the state issued policy. Also, the director has discretion over approving plans. One director might approve the plan while a director at another local office might not.
 
VR must follow State policy, which, in turn, follows Federal policy. Yes, there are budget restraints, but the Government gets that money back when a client finds gainful employment.
 
respectyoda said:


You missed my point. I said that each VR office has its local policy besides following the state issued policy. Also, the director has discretion over approving plans. One director might approve the plan while a director at another local office might not.
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That's not fair.
 
Steinhauer said:
VR must follow State policy, which, in turn, follows Federal policy. Yes, there are budget restraints, but the Government gets that money back when a client finds gainful employment.
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The only law that VR follows on a federal level is the Rehabilitation Act. Each state has its own policy that still adheres to the Rehabilitation Act. Each local office has its own policy that still adheres to both the state and federal policy. This is simply because each area within a state has a different amount of money in its funds.
 
respectyoda said:

The only law that VR follows on a federal level is the Rehabilitation Act. Each state has its own policy that still adheres to the Rehabilitation Act. Each local office has its own policy that still adheres to both the state and federal policy. This is simply because each area within a state has a different amount of money in its funds.
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And each State VR receives Federal funds, therefore, must adhere to Federal policy. A State can change the legal drinking age to 18, but they won't receive any Federal Funds if they do ( and will possibly go bankrupt ). Just one example.
 
Steinhauer said:
And each State VR receives Federal funds, therefore, must adhere to Federal policy. A State can change the legal drinking age to 18, but they won't receive any Federal Funds if they do ( and will possibly go bankrupt ). Just one example.
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You are stating the obvious. What I am stating is that the funds the state gets will distribute the funds to the local offices based on the amount of clients there are in that area. This is why I keep stating that some local offices have more money at its disposal whereas some local offices might not have that much money.
 
respectyoda said:
You are stating the obvious. What I am stating is that the funds the state gets will distribute the funds to the local offices based on the amount of clients there are in that area. This is why I keep stating that some local offices have more money at its disposal whereas some local offices might not have that much money.
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Did you read about the investigation several years ago about VR counselors turning down clients and pocketing the money?


This is a more recent one:

http://www.carolinalive.com/news/story.aspx?id=603011#.UCXYnaCuq64
 
respectyoda said:

I am a Gallaudet graduate as well. I already have a Masters in Deaf Education. :)

Lucia, VR can pay for schooling at Gallaudet University, but keep in mind that VR is working with a constrained budget so there is a high chance that they might pay only half with you paying the other half either with money out of your pockets and/or with student loans.

Also, VR is much stricter these days as they most of the time will not pay for a high schooler to go to Gallaudet/RIT upon graduation from high school without first proving themselves worthy by passing courses at a local college.
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So do you work as a teacher?
 
CrazyPaul said:
Not in my case, I graduated from NTID with AAS degree. I got 4.0 GPA most of the quarters. Then I wanted to transfer to RIT for a bachelor's degree so I requested for another financial aid from my VR but the counselor said no because her boss said no due to VR policy that allowed them to pay for any training program that offered up to AAS. I was shocked so I told her to go fuvk herself and that I would go to a different VR in another city but she told me that a VR in a different city wouldn't help me because I was not a resident of that city. Next time I brought a friend who knew alot about Section 504 to her office so again she talked to her evil boss who continued to say no. My friend was shocked as well. That was in Atlantic City, NJ a long time ago.
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Try use VR in CA? They will pay for tuition, books and supplies, that it.
 
respectyoda said:

I am a Gallaudet graduate as well. I already have a Masters in Deaf Education. :)

Lucia, VR can pay for schooling at Gallaudet University, but keep in mind that VR is working with a constrained budget so there is a high chance that they might pay only half with you paying the other half either with money out of your pockets and/or with student loans.

Also, VR is much stricter these days as they most of the time will not pay for a high schooler to go to Gallaudet/RIT upon graduation from high school without first proving themselves worthy by passing courses at a local college.
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VR in Alabama pay a lot of disabled students to attend the college, right after graduation from high school.

respectyoda said:
It is not weird at all because policies are different locally, statewide, and nationally. It is just like how laws can differ locally and statewide.
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respectyoda said:


You missed my point. I said that each VR office has its local policy besides following the state issued policy. Also, the director has discretion over approving plans. One director might approve the plan while a director at another local office might not.
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respectyoda said:

The only law that VR follows on a federal level is the Rehabilitation Act. Each state has its own policy that still adheres to the Rehabilitation Act. Each local office has its own policy that still adheres to both the state and federal policy. This is simply because each area within a state has a different amount of money in its funds.
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There is no local policies at VR in Alabama so they follow federal and state regulation, that it. My VR counselor told me that all client's documents are submitted to state official for review to ensure that clients receive a fair assistance, the local modification is strictly forbidden, same goes with state Medicaid too, they have to follow federal and state.
 
CrazyPaul,

My black friend from NJ (in NYC metro) and she already graduated last May. She told me that she received full assistance from VR in NJ for bachelor degree but limited to 10 semesters, after 10 semesters pass so they stop to support anymore. I don't know why are you being treat differently and you should file the complaint if you haven't receive fair assistance.

For me, unlimited, even they pay for graduate programs too. :cool2:

I used to had bad VR counselor before so changed to different counselor.
 
the contractual agreement was to pay for your AA degree. period. so next time when you get a VR support - apply for bachelor degree rather than AA.
 
Steinhauer said:
VR must follow State policy, which, in turn, follows Federal policy. Yes, there are budget restraints, but the Government gets that money back when a client finds gainful employment.
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Yup, I know about VR in Georgia is great.

Steinhauer said:
And each State VR receives Federal funds, therefore, must adhere to Federal policy. A State can change the legal drinking age to 18, but they won't receive any Federal Funds if they do ( and will possibly go bankrupt ). Just one example.
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They will only lose the federal highway funding, that all, not rest of federal funds.

I support state to make decision about drinking age, not federal.
 
Jiro said:
the contractual agreement was to pay for your AA degree. period. so next time when you get a VR support - apply for bachelor degree rather than AA.
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Is it under NJ policy?

Our state VR still pay if you want upgrade from AA to bachelor degree.
 
Foxrac said:
Is it under NJ policy?

Our state VR still pay if you want upgrade from AA to bachelor degree.
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no. just suggesting it to avoid any unnecessary headache.
 
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