Bikes can run red lights under new Illinois law

[Banjo]

Clarification on MI: you can make left turn on red light as long as it is onto a one-way street either from a one or two-way street except where posted. That is from the MI DMV handbook.

That's what I thought.

 

[Banjo]

Are you aware that's not true for all lights in all localities?

But they can be and should be anyway. Otherwise, it's money badly spent.

 

[Reba]

Patience is virtue.

Traffic jams are not.

 

[Banjo]

Traffic jams are not.

Being held hostage by the left signal for a mere few seconds is not what I consider a traffic jam. What you just described sounds like a design flaw in your area, which is something they should work on to correct.

It's not rocket science. These problems can be easily fixed without having to change the law.

 

[Jiro]

Same with cars, lol.....point here is often motorcycles cannot trip the magnetic strip to change the traffic lights.

motorcyclists can purchase a magnetic thing and put it at bottom of their bikes

 

[Jiro]

Illinois motorcycles and bicycles will be allowed to run red lights starting in 2012, but only in certain instances.

Motorcycles and bicycles often aren’t big enough to trigger magnetic sensors that switch traffic lights from red to green, WBBM Newsradio’s Alex Degman reports.

That could mean the riders either break the law and run the red light, or wait until another vehicle comes along.

Bikes | Traffic Laws | Chicago | The Daily Caller

this has been around for quite a while. it varies in every state/city

 

[Jiro]

I am disagreed with you about same rules. You should take motorcycle course and try ride the motorcycle around city then you will understand why.

um motorcyclists should follow and are required to same rules as motorists. to not do so is reckless and illegal. bicyclists are required to follow same rules as motorists too.... which is why it's not unheard of them getting ticket for running thru stop sign or red light.

 

[The Highlander]

um motorcyclists should follow and are required to same rules as motorists. to not do so is reckless and illegal. bicyclists are required to follow same rules as motorists too.... which is why it's not unheard of them getting ticket for running thru stop sign or red light.

You should know that.

Like seat belt/helmet, brake, gears, motorcycles is more vision than car (car driver just watch on the road and motorcycle driver watch on the wide), HOV lanes, etc.

3 Motorcycle Laws that are Different from Cars

Motorcycle Rules Different From Car Rules | www.kirotv.com

 

[Jiro]

You should know that.

yes I do because I have been riding for 4 years now. you?

Like seat belt/helmet, brake, gears, motorcycles is more vision than car (car driver just watch on the road and motorcycle driver watch on the wide),

what does that have to do traffic laws?

HOV lanes, etc.

right. both motorists and motorcyclists must adhere to laws regarding HOV.

3 Motorcycle Laws that are Different from Cars

Motorcycle Rules Different From Car Rules | www.kirotv.com

no.... that's not the point. we're talking about both motorcyclists and motorists following same traffic laws such as red light, stop sign, etc. motorcyclist is not exempted from traffic laws unless otherwise stated by state/federal law such as lane splitting which is only legal in California.

 

[The Highlander]

yes I do because I have been riding for 4 years now. you?

Don't matter how many years. Even 30 years motorcycle driver without helmet still stupid.

what does that have to do traffic laws?

We talked about rules. right? Who said about law?


right. both motorists and motorcyclists must adhere to laws regarding HOV.


no.... that's not the point. we're talking about both motorcyclists and motorists following same traffic laws such as red light, stop sign, etc. motorcyclist is not exempted from traffic laws unless otherwise stated by state/federal law such as lane splitting which is only legal in California.

Here you go. Car can't do lane splitting in CA like motorcycle can do it. Both can't be same rules. You silly.

If both are same rules then why take course to get another licensed for motorcycle?


Now We talking about the law.

we're talking about both motorcyclists and motorists following same traffic laws such as red light

Both are same traffic laws such as red light. really? Not for Illinois law, Did you read the first post?

 

[Jiro]

Here you go. Car can't do lane splitting in CA like motorcycle can do it. Both can't be same rules. You silly.

If both are same rules then why take course to get another licensed for motorcycle?


Now We talking about the law.


Both are same traffic laws such as red light. really? Not for Illinois law, Did you read the first post?

oh my.... I have no words.....

 

[The Highlander]

I hate that when you do that.

 

[Reba]

Wirelessly posted (BB Curve 9300)

Traffic jams are not.

Being held hostage by the left signal for a mere few seconds is not what I consider a traffic jam. What you just described sounds like a design flaw in your area, which is something they should work on to correct.

It's not rocket science. These problems can be easily fixed without having to change the law.

You obviously don't know anything about our traffic conditions.

 

[Reba]

Correct me if I'm mistaken, aren't the lights supposed to automatically change after two minutes?

Out of curiosity, I timed the lights at a few of the intersections I regularly traverse. I timed them on various days and times of day.

The times ranged from two to four full minutes. The left turn lights that I use the most frequently were four-minute waits. I sometimes have to wait thru two cycles of those turns, so that's eight minutes in line. Three cycles is rare but it happens; that's 12 minutes. (There weren't wrecks in the intersection; just heavy traffic.)

 

[Foxrac]

um motorcyclists should follow and are required to same rules as motorists. to not do so is reckless and illegal. bicyclists are required to follow same rules as motorists too.... which is why it's not unheard of them getting ticket for running thru stop sign or red light.

Yup, that's correct because some states or cities have red light camera equipped on road so random motorcyclists probably got flashed for running the stop light or stop sign.

Red light camera is already came to our state and only few roads have one now.

 

[whatdidyousay!]

Correct me if I'm mistaken, aren't the lights supposed to automatically change after two minutes?

Not with a left green arrow , they last only a few seconds in my city. I think allowing bicycle drivers to made a turn against a red light is insane . There a lot of drivers in my city that made a right turn against a red light when they're not allow to! This mean kids will be trying to made a turn against a red light and they do not pay attention to traffic very good. Horrible idea!