GA illegal immigration bill ruins crops

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jillio said:
Yeah, difficult to hold yourself in check in here, isn't it?
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Yep - real hard. Can't believe how it's turn into such a hatred filled thread. At least to me it is. Have to keep my stress level down and such, so, you know?
 
KristinaB said:
Yep - real hard. Can't believe how it's turn into such a hatred filled thread. At least to me it is. Have to keep my stress level down and such, so, you know?
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Absolutely. Not worth raising your stress level and having a negative impact on your health. But I agree...the hatred is just disgusting. Makes me sick to my stomach. And hatred for what purpose? None, except hatred for hatred's sake. Such a poor comment on a certain segment of our society.
 
Jiro said:
then why in the world are you complaining about farmers hiring illegals :lol:

if you believe it's just healthier to grow your own vegetables.... then don't you think it's better and productive for you to preach about Americans growing their own food? It would solve a handful of our budget crisis because billions of dollars from Medicare/Medicaid/SSI/SSDI has gone to Americans who are obese or have health problems resulting from eating unhealthy food.

btw - you gonna hire that unemployed legal citizen to do some farming for you?
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Because I believe the exploitation of illegal immigrants is wrong. I believe illegal immigration is wrong. As rolling7 pointed out, there is a legal process to becoming a United States citizen. Illegal immigrants are also stealing their jobs, as well as their place in line (if in the process of naturalization).

Furthermore, Mexico is profitting from illegal immigration - a quick search online will reveal numerous articles explaining how this is done. The migrant illegals go back home to spend the money they illegally obtained here. That would be the contributing factor behind why Mexico is filing lawsuits against Georgia for passing HB 87.

If farmers are that strapped for cash, they can tap into the prison population (and many do) - this insures that money earned is money spent here.

Mexico feels as though they can now dictate how we protect ourselves .... disgusting really.

As for growing my own vegetables? Free country isn't it? In fact, I don't get paid to grow my own vegetables, I shell out money to be able to do so.

I have hired legal workers to do work for me, yes. My father's construction business has done the same. He hired anyone willing to work as long as they could verify they were able to work legally. So yes, I was a foreman in a previous life in charge of spanish speaking housepainters. I got paid the same salary they did. Yes, they were legal and yes, we got along fantastic. I abhor racism as well as those who make false representations of what racism actually is. I know what racism is. Its when a contractor will laugh and say "Just hire a damn illegal for a buck an hour!"
 
StSapphire said:
...Comments regarding the unwillingness of most legal citizens to do the work the illegal immigrants are doing is a rhetorical point showing the hypocrisy of those who are in favor of demonizing the immigrants (rather than those who exploit them). After all, unless conservatives are talking about them scary Mexicans invading our holy and pure country....
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I, one of the conservatives, neither demonize legal immigrants nor illegal aliens. All I ask is that our borders be protected from unauthorized entry by people of all nationalities. Some of them are from Mexico but not all of them, and I don't think every time illegal alien is mentioned one should assume it's a Mexican. Also, just because someone in America is of Mexican descent, one shouldn't assume the person is here illegally.

Also, our country, much as I love it, is neither holy nor pure but I would like to have its borders protected.

I believe supporting E-Verify does go after those who exploit illegal alien workers.
 
The majority of the illegal immigrants in this country are from Mexico. Mexico is not a race, it is a nationality.
 
Reba said:
I, one of the conservatives, neither demonize legal immigrants nor illegal aliens. All I ask is that our borders be protected from unauthorized entry by people of all nationalities. Some of them are from Mexico but not all of them, and I don't think every time illegal alien is mentioned one should assume it's a Mexican. Also, just because someone in America is of Mexican descent, one shouldn't assume the person is here illegally.

Also, our country, much as I love it, is neither holy nor pure but I would like to have its borders protected.

I believe supporting E-Verify does go after those who exploit illegal alien workers.
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How do you ask? Do you write to your Senator? To your political party of choice?

How do you ask?
 
DeafCaroline said:
How do you ask? Do you write to your Senator? To your political party of choice?

How do you ask?
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I voted for the representatives of our state who created and passed the South Carolina immigration and E-Verify enforcement bill, and I voted for the governor who will sign the bill into law. My state also requires proof of status for getting drivers licenses and ID cards. I don't have to ask anything right now of my state government.
 
Reba said:
I voted for the representatives of our state who created and passed the South Carolina immigration and E-Verify enforcement bill, and I voted for the governor who will sign the bill into law. My state also requires proof of status for getting drivers licenses and ID cards. I don't have to ask anything right now of my state government.
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Are they enforcing those laws? Any problems with illegal workers in your state after the passing of the bill? Here's the thing - it's already against the law for immigrants to be in the US illegally. It's already against the law to hire illegal workers. Passing more laws are not going to change anything if they are not being enforced. There wouldn't even be a need to pass more laws if the original ones were being enforced and upheld. So, if you don't like what's happening, speak up and let the government know how you feel instead of posting on this thread. The government is not reading it.
 
Reba said:
No, it doesn't say that God approved of involuntary servitude (slavery). God acknowledged that slavery existed in those cultures. He provided a way of redemption out of slavery.
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Right you are, but as 10: 1-12 defines what adultery is, then 20:10 does NOT give a "rule", it give a solution, DEATH.

In other words, God allows slavery to continue, as long as you follow God's rule but adultery is NOT allowed to continue, so there is no need for rules.
 
Reba said:
I, one of the conservatives, neither demonize legal immigrants nor illegal aliens. All I ask is that our borders be protected from unauthorized entry by people of all nationalities. Some of them are from Mexico but not all of them, and I don't think every time illegal alien is mentioned one should assume it's a Mexican. Also, just because someone in America is of Mexican descent, one shouldn't assume the person is here illegally.

Also, our country, much as I love it, is neither holy nor pure but I would like to have its borders protected.

I believe supporting E-Verify does go after those who exploit illegal alien workers.
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What's funny and seeing the hypocrisy here is that Mexico is doing the very same thing in their attempt to protect their southern border (which is much, much smaller in length than the U.S.) where they round up illegal aliens and send them back across the border of Guatemala and constructing a fence/wall along near the Guatemalan border.


A Fence for the Southern Border…of Mexico | Breaking news and opinion on The Blaze
 
:Ohno:That biblical reference freaks me out because I just finished reading the Handmaiden's Tale. :Ohno:
 
DeafCaroline said:
Are they enforcing those laws? Any problems with illegal workers in your state after the passing of the bill? Here's the thing - it's already against the law for immigrants to be in the US illegally. It's already against the law to hire illegal workers. Passing more laws are not going to change anything if they are not being enforced. There wouldn't even be a need to pass more laws if the original ones were being enforced and upheld. So, if you don't like what's happening, speak up and let the government know how you feel instead of posting on this thread. The government is not reading it.
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The bill just passed a few days ago, and is awaiting the governor's signature. It becomes effective in January. So I can't say anything yet about enforcement.

Illegal immigration bill pushed through to Haley | The Post and Courier, Charleston SC - News, Sports, Entertainment

It looks like there will be some trouble from the opposition.

S.C. immigration law may face battle | The Post and Courier, Charleston SC - News, Sports, Entertainment

My Congressmen (my District and Senators) are already on board with my stand on immigration, so I don't need to inform them.

Why shouldn't I post in this thread like other ADers do?
 
kokonut said:
What's funny and seeing the hypocrisy here is that Mexico is doing the very same thing in their attempt to protect their southern border (which is much, much smaller in length than the U.S.) where they round up illegal aliens and send them back across the border of Guatemala and constructing a fence/wall along near the Guatemalan border.


A Fence for the Southern Border…of Mexico | Breaking news and opinion on The Blaze
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kokonut said:
Mexico's Other Border - National Geographic Magazine
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No surprising. I don't really trust the Mexican National Institute of Migration. It's full of ka-hoots.

We used to see the train take illegals sometimes on the way to the US while we were riding horses in the park in the state of Mexico. Too bad, it is not safe to go to the park in particular due to the recent massacre. Beautiful park.
 
Of course you can post on this thread. I am just saying that if illegal immigration, illegal workers and borders not being protected really and truly bothers someone, then they would let the government know. They would demand the government to do their job. But if they're not willing to do that, then evidently they don't really care that much.
 
rolling7 said:
Right you are, but as 10: 1-12 defines what adultery is, then 20:10 does NOT give a "rule", it give a solution, DEATH.

In other words, God allows slavery to continue, as long as you follow God's rule but adultery is NOT allowed to continue, so there is no need for rules.
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Say what? As far as I know, adultery still goes on.

Since God allows free will, which results in lots of wrong choices and actions by man, practices such as slavery and adultery continue. That doesn't mean God approves of those practices.
 
sallylou said:
:Ohno:That biblical reference freaks me out because I just finished reading the Handmaiden's Tale. :Ohno:
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The Handmaid's Tale is a book of fiction. I haven't read it but I looked at the synopsis on Wiki. Wow, is that some bizarre story! :lol:
 
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