GA illegal immigration bill ruins crops

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Foxrac said:
Modern version of slavery will be sex trafficking.

I don't consider illegal immigrants as slavery because it isn't fit in definition.

According to True Life on MTV, I had seen some legal citizens want to be paid below the minimum wage and under the table because they need jobs so really bad, just try to attract the employers.
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I just had another question about your comment ... when you are implicating that legal citizens are competing for jobs that pay beneath the minimum wage, who are they competing against?

That answer should be obvious.
 
Beowulf said:
Jimmy Carter? Why worry about him? Family-owned farms are becoming a rarity, with the vast majority of farms run by big corporations. I am sure they are honest in their paperwork. :roll:
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Yup, good post.

Steinhauer, I'm suggesting you to watch Food Inc.
 
And those farms run by corporations commit the most abuse and cruelty against livestock. So much so that they are now pressuring the government to make it illegal for anyone to expose via undercover investigations the going-ons at their farms because it affects their profits.

It beggars belief that corporate farming industry wants to make it law that it's illegal to expose their cruelties against livestock without their expressed permissions. I mean, no words...
 
Steinhauer said:
I just had another question about your comment ... when you are implicating that legal citizens are competing for jobs that pay beneath the minimum wage, who are they competing against?

That answer should be obvious.
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It has nothing to mention on True Life and they just need jobs so really very bad so try to attract employers to pay below the minimum wage and earn a cold cash so they need money to live.
 
Steinhauer said:
The farms that have complied with Federal Immigration laws are the ones on the books. Only 5% of Georgia's Farms filled out a survey concerning the hiring of illegal immigrants.

That leaves one to speculate that 95% of Georgia's farms employ illegal immigrants. I am sure those statistics are not true. However, it does make me wonder if Jimmy Carter filled out one of those surveys.
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No, the only reasonable speculation is that 95% of Georgia's farms just didn't bother with the survey.
 
I just have to point this out: if illegal workers taking jobs away from Americans is such a profound well known problem, why hasn't the government raided those agricultural farms to catch, arrest and deport the illegal workers? It's because the agricultural sector is one of the biggest industries of America. They know it would severely affect the economy and that's the bottom line for them, money. They are willing to look the other way for sake of capitalism.
 
DeafCaroline said:
And those farms run by corporations commit the most abuse and cruelty against livestock. So much so that they are now pressuring the government to make it illegal for anyone to expose via undercover investigations the going-ons at their farms because it affects their profits.

It beggars belief that corporate farming industry wants to make it law that it's illegal to expose their cruelties against livestock without their expressed permissions. I mean, no words...
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We have Temple Grandin to thank for how livestock are treated now.
 
Steinhauer, do you ever research before posting? Temple did introduce a method of making cattle more cooperative to being led to slaughter but that's about it.
 
DeafCaroline said:
I just have to point this out: if illegal workers taking jobs away from Americans is such a profound well known problem, why hasn't the government raided those agricultural farms to catch, arrest and deport the illegal workers? It's because the agricultural sector is one of the biggest industries of America. They know it would severely affect the economy and that's the bottom line for them, money. They are willing to look the other way for sake of capitalism.
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That is a good question. That is the reason Arizona and Georgia both passed a version of the Federal Law at the State level - because the Federal Government was not enforcing immigration law.
 
DeafCaroline said:
I just have to point this out: if illegal workers taking jobs away from Americans is such a profound well known problem, why hasn't the government raided those agricultural farms to catch, arrest and deport the illegal workers? It's because the agricultural sector is one of the biggest industries of America. They know it would severely affect the economy and that's the bottom line for them, money. They are willing to look the other way for sake of capitalism.
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Bam! Hit that nail on the head.
 
DeafCaroline said:
Steinhauer, do you ever research before posting? Temple did introduce a method of making cattle more cooperative to being led to slaughter but that's about it.
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Did you really need to ask that question?:giggle:
 
Steinhauer said:
Of course, but I saw the implication in your post that I am "ill-informed" from a mile away. I can assure that is not true.

Livestock Handling Systems, Cattle Corrals, Stockyards, and Races
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Dude, you seriously need to put that crystal ball of yours away.:laugh2: You keep trying to predict what people are going to do or say in the future, and you keep getting it wrong. It backs you into a corner.:laugh2: It really isn't an effective way to backpedal when you are called out on your mistakes.
 
jillio said:
Dude, you seriously need to put that crystal ball of yours away.:laugh2: You keep trying to predict what people are going to do or say in the future, and you keep getting it wrong. It backs you into a corner.:laugh2: It really isn't an effective way to backpedal when you are called out on your mistakes.
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Nope, not really. You keep backing yourself into a corner. Especially when you are calling Obama a racist, essentially. It has been very amusing watching you do that.

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Steinhauer said:
That is a good question. That is the reason Arizona and Georgia both passed a version of the Federal Law at the State level - because the Federal Government was not enforcing immigration law.
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Really?:laugh2:
 
Steinhauer said:
Nope, not really. You keep backing yourself into a corner. Especially when you are calling Obama a racist, essentially. It has been very amusing watching you do that.

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See, there you go again. I have never done such. You are either delusional, or actually believe that people will buy the crap you make up. Possibly a combination of both.
 
jillio said:
Really?:laugh2:
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Are you forgetting all of your prior posts on how despicable Arizona was, then, after they won the US Supreme Court decision, you were calling Obama an idiot for suing them, without realizing it was Obama that sued Arizona?
 
Steinhauer said:
Are you forgetting all of your prior posts on how despicable Arizona was, then, after they won the US Supreme Court decision, you were calling Obama an idiot for suing them, without realizing it was Obama that sued Arizona?
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What the hell are you talking about? Do you dream this stuff up, or do you really get that confused when you read?
 
Steinhauer said:
Of course, but I saw the implication in your post that I am "ill-informed" from a mile away. I can assure you that is not true.

Livestock Handling Systems, Cattle Corrals, Stockyards, and Races
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I first heard of Temple via 60 Minutes or 20/20...can't remember which then not long ago, rented the film. The farmers were heavily resistant to her methods and in fact, heavily ridiculed her caring about the well-being of cows until she pointed out an undeniable truth: her way costs them less money thus would generate more profits than their old ways.

They didn't use her methods because they care about cows, but because they love profits.
 
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