Three words is important

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jillio said:
I hate to tell you this, Joey, but no one has any power to control anything or anyone but themselves.
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I think he means orderly control of the universe.
 
jillio said:
Very resourceful of you, KristinaB.

It has always puzzled me that the fundamentalists reject anything but the most literal interpretation of the Bible, and reject the fundamental church of Christianity, as well. I would think, being the first Christian church, they would be closer to the first hand interpretation than say, a preacher who comes up with a doctine 1000 years later.:dunno:
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I'm afraid you are mistaken in your Christian church history.
 
jillio said:
Very resourceful of you, KristinaB.

It has always puzzled me that the fundamentalists reject anything but the most literal interpretation of the Bible, and reject the fundamental church of Christianity, as well. I would think, being the first Christian church, they would be closer to the first hand interpretation than say, a preacher who comes up with a doctine 1000 years later.:dunno:
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Ithought the oldest existing Church are the Syriac ones?
 
JoeyDeafNinja said:
Look like someone has taught me wrong.
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Anyone who has repented of his sins, and has trusted the finished work of Jesus Christ on the Cross, and that alone, as the only way for his own personal eternal salvation, is a born again Christian. It requires nothing more, nothing less.
 
KristinaB said:
I may get in trouble for this, but I can't resist.

What's the difference between Catholics & Christians? - Yahoo! Answers
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I'm sorry but that same link says:

List of Heresies

Adopted and perpetuated by the Roman Catholic Church in the

course of 1,600 years


These dates are in many cases approximate. Many of these heresies had been current in the church years before, but only when they were officially adopted by a Church Council and proclaimed by the pope as dogma of faith did they become binding on Catholics.

At the Reformation in the sixteenth century these heresies were repudiated as having no part in the religion of Jesus as taught in the New Testament.



(1) Of all the human inventions taught and practiced by the Roman Catholic Church, which are contrary to the Bible, the most ancient are the prayers for the dead and the sign of the cross. Both of these began 300 years after Christ.

(2) Wax candles were introduced in churches about 320 A.D.

(3) Veneration of angels and dead saints began about 375 A.D.

(4) The Mass as a daily celebration was adopted in 394 A.D.

(5) The worship of Mary the mother of Jesus and the use of the term "Mother of God" as applied to her originated about 381 A.D., but was first decreed in the Council of Ephesus in 431 A.D.

(6) Priests began to dress differently from the laity in 500 A.D.

(7) The doctrine of purgatory was first established by Gregory the Great about the year 593 A.D.

(8) The Latin language as the language of prayer and worship in churches was also imposed by pope Gregory I in the year 600 A.D.

(9) The Bible teaches that we pray to God alone. In the primitive church never were prayers directed to Mary or to dead saints. This practice began in the Roman Church about 600 years after Christ.

(10) The papacy is of pagan origin. The title of pope, or universal bishop, was first given to the bishop of Rome about 600 A.D. Jesus did not appoint Peter to the headship of the apostles and expressly forbade any such notion, Lk. 22:24-26; Eph. 1:22-23; Col. 1:18; 1 Cor. 3:11.

(11) The kissing of the pope's feet began in the year 709 A.D. It had been a pagan custom to kiss the feet of emperors. The Word of God forbids such practices, Acts 10:25-26; Rev. 19:10; 22:9.

(12) The temporal power of the popes began in the year 750 A.D. Jesus expressly forbade such a thing and He Himself refused worldly kingship, Mt. 4:8-9; 20:25-26; Jn. 18:36.

(13) Worship of the cross, images, and relics was authorized in 787 A.D. Such practice is called idolatry in the Bible, and is severely condemned, Ex. 20:2-6; Dt. 27:15; Ps. 115.

(14) Holy water, mixed with a pinch of salt and blessed by the priest, was authorized in the year 850 A.D.

(15) The veneration of St. Joseph began in the year 890 A.D.

(16) The baptism of bells was instituted by pope John XIV in 965 A.D.

(17) Canonization of dead saints, first by pope John XV in 995 A.D. Every believer and follower of Christ is called "saint" in the Bible, Rom. 1:7; 1 Cor. 1:2, etc.

(18) Fasting on Fridays and during Lent was imposed in the year 998 A.D. by popes said to be interested in the commerce of fish. See Mt. 15:11; 1 Cor. 10:25; 1 Tim. 4:1-3; Col. 2:14-17; Rom. 14:1-23.

(19) The Mass was developed gradually as a sacrifice and attendance made obligatory in the eleventh century. The gospel teaches that the sacrifice of Christ was offered once and for all, and is not to be repeated, but only commemorated in the Lord's Supper, Heb. 7:27; 9:26-28; 10:10-14.

(20) The celibacy of the priesthood was decreed by pope Hildebrand and Boniface VII in the year 1079 A.D. Jesus imposed no such rule, nor did any of the apostles. On the contrary, Peter was a married man, and Paul says that bishops were to have a wife and children, 1 Tim. 3:2-5, 12; Mt. 8:14-15.

(21) The rosary, or prayer beads, was introduced by Peter the Hermit in the year 1090 A.D. This was copied from Hindus and Mohammedans. The counting of prayers is a pagan practice and is expressly condemned by Christ, Mt. 6:5-13.
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Reba said:
I'm sorry but that same link says:
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Well - considering that the link was just for a Yahoo Answers and not anything specific. That's why I provided the link. Catholics are Christian. In the grand scheme of things, as far as I was taught, There are the Jews and the Gentiles and the Unbelievers. The Jews are the Jewish faith, the Gentiles are the Christians and the Unbelievers include the Agnostics as well as those who just don't believe. Yes, there is a difference. I was brought up in one Christian faith, married into another Christian faith and my maternal Grandfather was a preacher in yet a different Christian faith. One thing I have learned on my own, from different boyfriends and friends, was that the Catholics do believe in Christ and will pray to the Virgin Mary as well as G*d. I also learned, whether true or not, that a Baptist believes "once saved, always saved" whereas the Pentecostals believe that you must ask forgiveness every time and you may be "re-saved". And again, some Christian faiths believe in full immersion baptism and others believe in "sprinkling". I personally was "sprinkled" as a baby and have the Baptism certificate for it, then later down the road, a church we attended in Missouri said that I was not baptized as what I had was only a "blessing". Needless to say, I did not agree and went on my merry way. They then reviewed my papers and agreed that it was in actuality a baptism. "Different strokes for different folks" I guess.
 
Jewish is a culture and people, as well as a religion. There are Jewish atheists, etc.

but wait....how did we get from "three words" to here?

three important words....:hmm:

love
love
love

which has no opposite
 
sure, no problem, Kristina:)
My parents married by a rabbi with a Hebrew and English certificate, dad's family kept kosher briefly when he was a young child. He was bar mitzvah etc. I was raised in a Jewish household with Ashkenazi cultural aspects <Yiddish, foods, > and activism based on "repair of the world" , equality and so forth...but not raised religiously at all. I was given a choice as a young child to be involved in traditional Jewish institutions - and attended a few things and decided against it. My parents thought if I was forced, I would end being resentful and develop a "bad taste" for Judaism so I was not forced - and returned to it in college where I was the only Jew in the dorm in a small town.
 
Well - I was raised Episcopalian which is the Protestant church of the Church of England, and married into the Church of God based out of Cleveland, TN (Pentecostal). While in Missouri we attended the Assemblies of God church. My mother's father was a preacher with the Disciples of Christ, First Christian Church. He preached in Ohio, Indiana, Kentucky, Florida, Australia, the Philippines, and I'm not sure where else.
 
JoeyDeafNinja said:
Catholic believe there other way to get into Heaven

Christian believe only one way to get into Heaven is by through Jesus Christ.
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I am Catholic and us, Catholics, believe in Jesus Christ, our brother. God is our Father. Yes, if possible, we will go to heaven through Jesus or God. So you better watch your language about us. :shock:
 
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