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souggy said:
Yes, people in Mongolia might have the same access as we do, but they are not immersed in technology 24/7. Immersion and access are two different things, albeit not exclusive of each others.
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I was thinking of Saudi Arabia, North Korea and Iran.

And now that I think of it, Jews in the west. Tribal and modern.
 
Internet is equated with free speech, and to curtail that apparently curtails democracy.

Georgia & Russia. Ha! Another McDonald's lost.

Behrain has McDonald's...:)

How is it relative? Tribalism can't exist if you let it go.
 
TheOracle said:
ew. veggie burgers. //vomit
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It's made from pork or chicken.


Also, some veggie burgers are really good. Depends on what you want. If you want a burger to taste just like meat, then eat a meat burger. Sometimes I want a different taste, so I have a veggie burger.
 
So is civilization the absence of tribal s.ociety?

Or the advance of technology?

As Alex pointed out, even tribal societies go to war. Yet...they seem to have less deaths.:hmm:

Do you know what conflict cost the US the most deaths (relative to per cent of population)?

Answer: King Phillip's War. Colonists and Native Americans. The latter group had fewer guns.
 
TheWriteAlex said:
It's made from pork or chicken.


Also, some veggie burgers are really good. Depends on what you want. If you want a burger to taste just like meat, then eat a meat burger. Sometimes I want a different taste, so I have a veggie burger.
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Or if you want something that tastes like neither, go to McDonald's! :)
 
TheOracle said:
...(And since when do Muslims eat McDonalds?)
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They can and do. It depends. If the McDonalds follows halal requirements, that's OK. There are other ifs, ands, or buts that sometimes make other McDonalds permissible, too.


Oops! Never mind. I see you already answered your question. :lol:
 
But in America, Muslims don't. So even McDonalds and economic democracy has to conform to individual tastes. :)

No McWorld there!
 
TheOracle said:
...Do you know what conflict cost the US the most deaths (relative to per cent of population)?

Answer: King Phillip's War. Colonists and Native Americans. The latter group had fewer guns.
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Wrong. There was no US then.
 
Reba said:
Wrong. There was no US then.
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Ha! Are colonists not called "early Americans"? Besides, they were semi autonomous and later received full autonomy. States existed before we became a "nation".

That's like saying the war for Independence caused no casualties for U.S. citizens because it didn't exist yet, or that Hidalgo is not a Mexican hero because they didn't get their independence until after his death. :p

Couldn't they be retroactively given citizenship based on domicile? It's part of the American collective, Reba.
 
TheOracle said:
Ha! Are colonists not called "early Americans"? Besides, they were semi autonomous and later received full autonomy. States existed before we became a "nation".
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You specifically posted "US." There was no such entity as the United States at that time. It wasn't even a glimmer in a Founding Father's eye. In fact, the Founding Fathers weren't even alive at that time. It was 100 years before the Revolution. They weren't even states at that time but they were colonies. Check your history timeline.

That's like saying the war for Independence caused no casualties for U.S. citizens because it didn't exist yet
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Not at all. There's a 100 year difference, and the colonies were no where near considering independent nationhood.

or that Hidalgo is not a Mexican hero because they didn't get their independence until after his death. :p
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Totally irrelevant comparison.

Couldn't they be retroactively given citizenship based on domicile? It's part of the American collective, Reba.
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Now there's a creative ignoring of the Constitution and history. :laugh2:
 
My last comment was a joke, although there was a naturalization clause to account for those not born in the US at the time of independence but were residents. :P

I know my history timeline, Reba. I understand your jabs. So is it better if I say "US history collective"? We do call colonists the early Americans. There's a reason for that. It's part of our social history. Sorry it didn't fly with you.

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Reba said:
You specifically posted "US." There was no such entity as the United States at that time. It wasn't even a glimmer in a Founding Father's eye. In fact, the Founding Fathers weren't even alive at that time. It was 100 years before the Revolution. They weren't even states at that time but they were colonies. Check your history timeline.


Not at all. There's a 100 year difference, and the colonies were no where near considering independent nationhood.


Totally irrelevant comparison.


Now there's a creative ignoring of the Constitution and history. :laugh2:
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TheOracle said:
My last comment was a joke, although there was a naturalization clause to account for those not born in the US at the time of independence but were residents. :P
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I know about the naturalization clause. It wasn't retroactive to the previous century. :roll:

I know my history timeline, Reba. I understand your jabs. So is it better if I say "US history collective"? We do call colonists the early Americans. There's a reason for that. It's part of our social history. Sorry it didn't fly with you.
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As a teacher, I would think historical accuracy would be important to you.

Your original question was:

"Do you know what conflict cost the US the most deaths (relative to per cent of population)?"

Since the US wasn't even close to being formed at that time, the statement was inaccurate. The King Philips War caused 0 casualties for the United States. Simple.

It's not a jab. I just don't like false information being propagated.
 
TheOracle said:
...Couldn't they be retroactively given citizenship based on domicile? It's part of the American collective, Reba.
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American collective? That sounds like a Soviet policy pursued by Stalin between 1928 and 1940.
 
Reba said:
I know about the naturalization clause. It wasn't retroactive to the previous century. :roll:


As a teacher, I would think historical accuracy would be important to you.

Your original question was:

"Do you know what conflict cost the US the most deaths (relative to per cent of population)?"

Since the US wasn't even close to being formed at that time, the statement was inaccurate. The King Philips War caused 0 casualties for the United States. Simple.

It's not a jab. I just don't like false information being propagated.
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Reba, right re: the false information but it is easy to fool the students, methinks.
 
It was a joke, Reba. A joke. You understand? A joke. The clause comment was a joke. I think I even said I was joking. No?

I *may* have had poor word choice, but I didn't misconstrue anything. Stop making a mountain out of a molehill. Colonial history is covered in American history for a reason. I'm pretty sure that if I gave this lesson and said that line, no one, NO ONE, would have taken what I said to mean "The United States was a country at this time." :crazy:

Reba said:
I know about the naturalization clause. It wasn't retroactive to the previous century. :roll:


As a teacher, I would think historical accuracy would be important to you.

Your original question was:

"Do you know what conflict cost the US the most deaths (relative to per cent of population)?"

Since the US wasn't even close to being formed at that time, the statement was inaccurate. The King Philips War caused 0 casualties for the United States. Simple.

It's not a jab. I just don't like false information being propagated.
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TheOracle said:
...I'm pretty sure that if I gave this lesson and said that line, no one, NO ONE, would have taken what I said to mean "The United States was a country at this time." :crazy:
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They wouldn't? I don't know what else "US" would refer to.

Sorry, I haven't kept up with all the revisions to history.
 
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