A Man of Many Degrees +Plus+ Ph.D

TheWriteAlex said:
The reason for why stuff like this has come about definitely lies in the American education system. Higher education has just become a business at most universities. Students are customers purchasing a product, a degree. It doesn't matter how they get that product, just as long as they get it.

One of the biggest reasons that I see is the way many college classes are set up as auditorium lectures with hundreds upon hundreds of students. The only way to assess student learning in such situations is to give exams and assign papers to be read by a team of graduate TAs (often socially stunted and resentful of the undergrad students who are having much more fun than they ever did as undergrads). There are no close working relationships between student and instructor, and thus, no oversight. The students are not motivated to do good work and increase their knowledge and intellectual capacity, but just to pass the class with a good grade at any cost.

With my class, I only have 20 students. I know each and every one of their names by the end of the second week. I assign daily quick writing activities in order to get a feeling for their writing style and intellectual capabilities. And through mandatory 1-on-1 conferencing, I get to know them a little better than just as a statistic. What happens is that I develop a close working relationship with each of them and can give them individualized instruction. I like to think that they are more inspired to write and work hard because of this, but if anything, it also allows me to recognize when something is out of the ordinary with their writing.

American universities need to begin moving back towards smaller class size and taking only the brightest and most motivated students. College isn't for everybody.
Click to expand...
:gpost:
 
Reba said:
So they should be able to see whether or not the student's oral presentation matches the written one.
Click to expand...

some people are eloquent orator but lousy at writing and vice versa.
 
Jiro said:
including Major Nidal M. Hasan? even if it perpetrates dishonesty and fraud?
Click to expand...
He's being judged at a military court martial, and yes, he's entitled to legal representation.

How does providing him a lawyer perpetuate dishonesty and fraud?
 
Reba said:
He's being judged at a military court martial, and yes, he's entitled to legal representation.

How does providing him a lawyer perpetuate dishonesty and fraud?
Click to expand...

no. the lawyer perpetuates dishonesty and fraud... which is why many criminals got off the hook.
 
Jiro said:
no. the lawyer perpetuates dishonesty and fraud... which is why many criminals got off the hook.
Click to expand...
Defense lawyers also make it possible for innocent people to go free.

Guilty people are also found guilty despite the best efforts of defense attorneys.

It has nothing to do with lawyers perpetuating dishonesty and fraud.
 
Jiro said:
lawyers for criminals? OJ Simpson? wife beaters? Enron people?
Click to expand...
Even criminals are entitled to representation. I personally know of no crooked lawyers and I know several.
 
Glenn said:
Even criminals are entitled to representation. I personally know of no crooked lawyers and I know several.
Click to expand...

There you go. They merely use the facets of the law that will benefit their client. There's is not to judge guilt or innocence. Theirs is to provide representation. Even a client who states their guilt is entitled to representation.
 
Turnitin and essay cheat detection sites detect for plagiarism, not what this guy does.. He isn't plagiarizing. He's doing the work for someone else, aka bribery. That's why it won't work on his papers because he KNOWS what he is writing about.. hence "I have so and so degrees".

I'm not sure exactly when some of our members graduated, but education in the new millennium makes what one learned in the 70's, 80's or even 90's way inferior.

Cheating? Cheating is rampant these days. Do you old timers know about the water bottle label cheat? Or the engraved pencils? There's much more..

The cause of it definitely again is within the education system. The Scholastic Aptitude Test nowadays are over double what they used to be in the past. I remember it used to be 1000 for a period of time, then suddenly it was boosted to 1600, and then the introductions of SAT2's came in boosting it to 2400's or beyond for more subjects.

Students nowadays are expected to know more than the past. I can understand that this may differ by geography for education systems within counties, but I doubt this issue needs to be stressed at this time.
 
Glenn said:
Which is the fault of the system itself.
Click to expand...

there you go.

this is the fault of education system itself. They need to focus on revamping its system for 21st century. They're still in 19th century. These days... many kids are extremely intelligent at very very young age. It surprises me.
 
Reba said:
Defense lawyers also make it possible for innocent people to go free.

Guilty people are also found guilty despite the best efforts of defense attorneys.

It has nothing to do with lawyers perpetuating dishonesty and fraud.
Click to expand...

OJ Simpson?
 
Jiro said:
there you go.

this is the fault of education system itself. They need to focus on revamping its system for 21st century. They're still in 19th century. These days... many kids are extremely intelligent at very very young age. It surprises me.
Click to expand...
There have always been kids who were extremely intelligent at a very young age but they didn't always get the same levels of education that took advantage of that intelligence.
 
naisho said:
Turnitin and essay cheat detection sites detect for plagiarism, not what this guy does.. He isn't plagiarizing. He's doing the work for someone else, aka bribery. That's why it won't work on his papers because he KNOWS what he is writing about.. hence "I have so and so degrees".
Click to expand...
Plagiarism, to me, is submitting work as your own work without attributing sources. While the guy may not be the actual one plagiarizing, he is participating in it.

Plagiarism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Glenn said:
Plagiarism, to me, is submitting work as your own work without attributing sources. While the guy may not be the actual one plagiarizing, he is participating in it.

Plagiarism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Click to expand...

He has attributed his sources in his papers... lol. No way he can get past thesis and postgraduate, lab reports without sources.. no way jose.

I've written toward a master's degree in cognitive psychology, a Ph.D. in sociology, and a handful of postgraduate credits in international diplomacy. I've worked on bachelor's degrees in hospitality, business administration, and accounting. I've written for courses in history, cinema, labor relations, pharmacology, theology, sports management, maritime security, airline services, sustainability, municipal budgeting, marketing, philosophy, ethics, Eastern religion, postmodern architecture, anthropology, literature, and public administration. I've attended three dozen online universities. I've completed 12 graduate theses of 50 pages or more. All for someone else.

After I've gathered my sources, I pull out usable quotes, cite them, and distribute them among the sections of the assignment. Over the years, I've refined ways of stretching papers. I can write a four-word sentence in 40 words. Just give me one phrase of quotable text, and I'll produce two pages of ponderous explanation. I can say in 10 pages what most normal people could say in a paragraph.
 
Glenn said:
What did OJ's lawyers do? :hmm:
Click to expand...
They apparently presented a case that convinced the jurors to acquit, and the prosecutors didn't present a case that convinced the jurors to find guilty. Then there was the judge and jury members--what did they do or not do?

There was plenty of blame to spread around.
 
The criminal case verdict let OJ go free because of faults in the chain of custody over forensic evidence documentation. Lots of evidence became inadmissible due to this reason alone.

OJ's lawyers repeatedly got the evidence dismissed because of faults in the chain of custody. The chief person to blame is Mark Fuhrman, the LAPD detective responsible for the case.

The prosecutors spoke about all the evidence they had (gloves, blood, italian shoes) but the defense broke it using criteria such as contamination, carelessness, mishandling and evidence tampering.

Here are some questions directly off Cochran. You can thank some lecture notes I have sitting around, if you want sources for my post.

The defense attorney, Johnny Cochran, formulated multiple critical questions (only some examples are here given):
– Why was Detective Fuhrman alone outside the Rockingham crime scene for 18 minutes?
- Why are there no notes to reflect what he did for those 18 minutes?
– Why was the glove found at Rockingham still damp with blood at 6 a.m. after allegedly being dropped at 10:45 the prior evening, especially in light of the small amount of blood smeared on it ?
– What exactly was the state’s theory on how the other glove got there ? And why was there no blood found on the dried leaves or ground, when a wet, bloodied glove had been dropped there ?
– In light of the shoeprints and the number of knife wounds, isn’t it equally probable that there was more than one killer ?
– Why was Nicole’s blood found on the inside of the sock, but not on the carpeting and outside of the sock ? How was this blood transferred ?
 
Back
Top