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Oh good lord... we don't need more more more rules. Forget it. Why add complexity than it already is?!?!
I thought low and middle income people wanted more ways to cut back their medical expenses. No?

I would love to save money on my medical expenses. None of those ways that I listed are currently available to me. I could probably save at least a couple thousand dollars a year if I could use them.

Besides, you don't think Obamacare won't add more rules?
 
Here are the CIGNA quotes again.....

From CIGNA

FSA, HRA, HSA: Eligible and Ineligible Expenses





FSA, HRA, HSA: Eligible and Ineligible Expenses

Did you read what you posted?
 
a month? took me only a day or sometimes same day. don't even need to go into office. can simply call a doc's office to produce a prescription.

exaggerate much?

Bingo.
 
if "insurance plans" fits government entities like MediCal, Medicare and CA state prison system. You don't need insurance if you're a prisoner and you don't pay; the taxpayers do. Even if it is aspirin or some exotic $40,000 a month drug.

That is a different situation.
 
I thought low and middle income people wanted more ways to cut back their medical expenses. No?

I would love to save money on my medical expenses. None of those ways that I listed are currently available to me. I could probably save at least a couple thousand dollars a year if I could use them.

Besides, you don't think Obamacare won't add more rules?

Obamacare closed the loop, reinforced the rules to prevent low-middle income people from getting screwed (reimbursements, pre-existing conditions, etc), reduced the frauds, and many more.
 
Because I don't go to the Doc very often.... :laugh2:

You do realize that puts you at risk for being diagnosed with a catastophic illness that we will be paying for once you max out your personal funds, don't you?
 
Because I don't go to the Doc very often.... :laugh2:

neither do I and I know it doesn't take a month to get a prescription for reimbursement :)

again - it pretty much showed that you are ill-informed about Obamacare and healthcare crsis.
 
Since we're currently stuck with an income tax, this is the way I would like to see medical expenses handled:

1. Allow a health expenses saving account where the interest accrued wouldn't be taxed as long as the funds were used for allowed expenses.

2. Allowed expenses would include OTC meds, disposable materials, health services, and long-term health related durable goods. That would include such things asblood pressure monitor, latex gloves, eye drops, health club membership, exercise equipment, hearing aids, dental care, vitamins, bandages, shoe orthontics, glasses, dietician services, smoking cessation programs, etc. If it's health related but not covered by insurance, then it would be paid for out of this account.

3. Itemized receipts but not prescriptions would be required for all purchases. Prescriptions require doctor visits, which cost time and money, and aren't necessary for most of the items. Prescriptions would be allowed but not required.

4. Co-pays would be paid from this account and deducted from the gross income line.

5. Mileage, lodging, and parking expenses not covered by insurance for doctor/hospital visits and stays, would be paid from this account, and be tax deductible, no minimum required.

6. All medical expenses, including insurance premiums, without a minimum, would be tax deductible from the gross income amount.

That would work wonderfully for a small segment of the population. What about everyone else?
 
It makes no sense - I have NEVER heard of health insurance paying for the OTC medications. In fact, it should NOT pay for any OTC drugs since they don't require a visit to doctor. However, it just stated that it will reimburse ONLY if your doctor prescribed the OTC drug which is fine but show me insurance companies where they will pay for OTC drugs without prescription.

So, exactly what is the problem? It's just a phony controversy.

Insurance companies love when prescription drugs go OTC because they save more money since they don't pay for them.

Exactly!
 
Obamacare closed the loop, reinforced the rules to prevent low-middle income people from getting screwed (reimbursements, pre-existing conditions, etc), reduced the frauds, and many more.

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It makes no sense - I have NEVER heard of health insurance paying for the OTC medications. In fact, it should NOT pay for any OTC drugs since they don't require a visit to doctor. However, it just stated that it will reimburse ONLY if your doctor prescribed the OTC drug which is fine but show me insurance companies where they will pay for OTC drugs without prescription.

So, exactly what is the problem? It's just a phony controversy.

Insurance companies love when prescription drugs go OTC because they save more money since they don't pay for them.

and plus.... isn't it because of low-income people? paying for OTC can actually affect them financially.
 
and plus.... isn't it because of low-income people? paying for OTC can actually affect them financially.

Yes, that too. Actually, low income use OTC meds more often than upper level income.
 
Obamacare closed the loop, reinforced the rules to prevent low-middle income people from getting screwed (reimbursements, pre-existing conditions, etc), reduced the frauds, and many more.
How long has it been in effect?
 
How long has it been in effect?

Depends on which part of Obamacare. It's the rolling effect which has already started.
 
Meh, I won't have to worry about annual limits the next few years like many will. *shrug*

Well, I guess we are all not so fortunate as to have unlimited amounts of money at our personal disposal.:roll:
 
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