Another obamacare hassle

[Jiro]

Yeah waiting a month to see a Dr due to a mandate is equal to 30 seconds in a scanner because you chose a particular mode of travel. :roll: If you still have the headache a month later the Dr is probably going to put you through a scanner as well.

And btw.....Both are happening under obama.

a month? took me only a day or sometimes same day. don't even need to go into office. can simply call a doc's office to produce a prescription.

exaggerate much?

 

[Foxrac]

a month? took me only a day or sometimes same day. don't even need to go into office. can simply call a doc's office to produce a prescription.

exaggerate much?

I never wait for one month to see a doctor, usually same day or next day for regular doctor and 1-2 weeks for specialist.

Call doctor to request prescription via telephone won't hurt at all.

 

[Jiro]

I never wait for one month to see a doctor, usually same day or next day for regular doctor and 1/2 weeks for specialist.

Call doctor to request prescription via telephone won't hurt at all.

yep. just a minute of your time for a simple phone call.

 

[nobody456]

Yeah waiting a month to see a Dr due to a mandate is equal to 30 seconds in a scanner because you chose a particular mode of travel. :roll: If you still have the headache a month later the Dr is probably going to put you through a scanner as well.

And btw.....Both are happening under obama.

I think the more "invasive" method is because of the potential Christmas Day bomber of last year, is it not?

That really is coincidence that he was President then. Had it been Bush....... The whole degree of invasiveness issue is a question of how much security (and tax dollars, plus personal liberty) you're willing to give up to ensure America doesn't succumb to Terrorism *yawn*. Get over it.

 

[TXgolfer]

a month? took me only a day or sometimes same day. don't even need to go into office. can simply call a doc's office to produce a prescription.

exaggerate much?

I don't go to Docs very often.....but I hear people bitching about how long they had to wait for an appointment.... I bet that phone call would take longer than the scan.

 

[nobody456]

Of course it does. And it is nothing new. No insurance plan in existence overs OTC meds. And you need an RX if you want to be reimbursed for assistive devises such as canes and wheelchairs, too. Nothing new about any of it.

if "insurance plans" fits government entities like MediCal, Medicare and CA state prison system. You don't need insurance if you're a prisoner and you don't pay; the taxpayers do. Even if it is aspirin or some exotic $40,000 a month drug.

 

[Jiro]

I don't go to Docs very often.....but I hear people bitching about how long they had to wait for an appointment.... I bet that phone call would take longer than the scan.

in other word... you're ill-informed about Obamacare......

 

[TXgolfer]

I think the more "invasive" method is because of the potential Christmas Day bomber of last year, is it not?

That really is coincidence that he was President then. Had it been Bush....... The whole degree of invasiveness issue is a question of how much security (and tax dollars, plus personal liberty) you're willing to give up to ensure America doesn't succumb to Terrorism *yawn*. Get over it.

Meh, Like I said, people have the right to drive. If they have these pat downs and scans If not

 

[nobody456]

in other word... you're ill-informed about Obamacare......

 

[TXgolfer]

in other word... you're ill-informed about Obamacare......

Because I don't go to the Doc very often....

 

[nobody456]

Meh, Like I said, people have the right to drive. If they have these pat downs and scans If not

yeah. shrug.

I was ranting a bit there...just annoyed that it got the kind of attention it got b/c of some douche wanting some 15 seconds of fame on YouTube. That and "Seriously?"... "Really?"... without elaborating why the speaker is so shocked about whatever is going on...

 

[TXgolfer]

yeah. shrug.

I was ranting a bit there...just annoyed that it got the kind of attention it got b/c of some douche wanting some 15 seconds of fame on YouTube. That and "Seriously?"... "Really?"... without elaborating why the speaker is so shocked about whatever is going on...

Lol..... I agree. I said earlier he just did it for attention. Guy looks like a whiner too.

 

[nobody456]

Lol..... I agree. I said earlier he just did it for attention. Guy looks like a whiner too.

That's what I was thinking too

...I will say though, that any gov't and business can be a hassle, but it just depends on what you're expecting from them and what you think should be put into it....there's a reason why where I work (state gov't) may be viewed as a hassle and I'll gladly tell the callers that it's because we're trying to ensure transparency through "Public Records Act" (Don't quote me on the phrase...I knows it's not exactly that) and track expenditures carefully and thoroughly.

 

[TXgolfer]

That's what I was thinking too

...I will say though, that any gov't and business can be a hassle, but it just depends on what you're expecting from them and what you think should be put into it....there's a reason why where I work (state gov't) may be viewed as a hassle and I'll gladly tell the callers that it's because we're trying to ensure transparency through "Public Records Act" (Don't quote me on the phrase...I knows it's not exactly that) and track expenditures carefully and thoroughly.

Well let's hope I am wrong about Brown... It would be great if California got rolling again. I would be very happy to be wrong. I was wrong about Ryan Leaf so it happens.

 

[nobody456]

Ryan Leaf..yeah

I'm hopeful too, but it's feels very stagnant in terms of the economy as a whole, which...jury's still out...I think I'd rather have a more predictable 1-2% GDP growth per year then the crazy boom-bust of the housing market fuel. But that's just me and I'm a government worker...I don't really benefit from market changes as quickly as a private worker might (wall street bankers still make some pretty nice bonuses though). It would be great if CA did draw/start up the national economy though.

State Budget is still deficit-ridden. Hopefully, we have some decent lawmakers and a governor to make solid compromises. Life is still decent and enjoyable. I'm not starving and there isn't a war at my front door.

 

[TXgolfer]

Ryan Leaf..yeah

I'm hopeful too, but it's feels very stagnant in terms of the economy as a whole, which...jury's still out...I think I'd rather have a more predictable 1-2% GDP growth per year then the crazy boom-bust of the housing market fuel. But that's just me and I'm a government worker...I don't really benefit from market changes as quickly as a private worker might (wall street bankers still make some pretty nice bonuses though). It would be great if CA did draw/start up the national economy though.

State Budget is still deficit-ridden. Hopefully, we have some decent lawmakers and a governor to make solid compromises. Life is still decent and enjoyable. I'm not starving and there isn't a war at my front door.

Yeah it's strange out there.....I see the stats for California and they are very bleak. But I have many friends there.....Most are in their late 20s and early 30s and they are doing really well and they are very happy.

 

[nobody456]

yeah that pretty much sums it up for me too lol. I guess us younguns' expect the rosy-picture bs from poli's and knuckled down on reality. Interesting viewpoints for sure.

 

[Reba]

Since we're currently stuck with an income tax, this is the way I would like to see medical expenses handled:

1. Allow a health expenses saving account where the interest accrued wouldn't be taxed as long as the funds were used for allowed expenses.

2. Allowed expenses would include OTC meds, disposable materials, health services, and long-term health related durable goods. That would include such things asblood pressure monitor, latex gloves, eye drops, health club membership, exercise equipment, hearing aids, dental care, vitamins, bandages, shoe orthontics, glasses, dietician services, smoking cessation programs, etc. If it's health related but not covered by insurance, then it would be paid for out of this account.

3. Itemized receipts but not prescriptions would be required for all purchases. Prescriptions require doctor visits, which cost time and money, and aren't necessary for most of the items. Prescriptions would be allowed but not required.

4. Co-pays would be paid from this account and deducted from the gross income line.

5. Mileage, lodging, and parking expenses not covered by insurance for doctor/hospital visits and stays, would be paid from this account, and be tax deductible, no minimum required.

6. All medical expenses, including insurance premiums, without a minimum, would be tax deductible from the gross income amount.

 

[netrox]

It makes no sense - I have NEVER heard of health insurance paying for the OTC medications. In fact, it should NOT pay for any OTC drugs since they don't require a visit to doctor. However, it just stated that it will reimburse ONLY if your doctor prescribed the OTC drug which is fine but show me insurance companies where they will pay for OTC drugs without prescription.

So, exactly what is the problem? It's just a phony controversy.

Insurance companies love when prescription drugs go OTC because they save more money since they don't pay for them.

 

[netrox]

Since we're currently stuck with an income tax, this is the way I would like to see medical expenses handled:

1. Allow a health expenses saving account where the interest accrued wouldn't be taxed as long as the funds were used for allowed expenses.

2. Allowed expenses would include OTC meds, disposable materials, health services, and long-term health related durable goods. That would include such things asblood pressure monitor, latex gloves, eye drops, health club membership, exercise equipment, hearing aids, dental care, vitamins, bandages, shoe orthontics, glasses, dietician services, smoking cessation programs, etc. If it's health related but not covered by insurance, then it would be paid for out of this account.

3. Itemized receipts but not prescriptions would be required for all purchases. Prescriptions require doctor visits, which cost time and money, and aren't necessary for most of the items. Prescriptions would be allowed but not required.

4. Co-pays would be paid from this account and deducted from the gross income line.

5. Mileage, lodging, and parking expenses not covered by insurance for doctor/hospital visits and stays, would be paid from this account, and be tax deductible, no minimum required.

6. All medical expenses, including insurance premiums, without a minimum, would be tax deductible from the gross income amount.

Oh good lord... we don't need more more more rules. Forget it. Why add complexity than it already is?!?!