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which one do you value more? nice road or nice freedom?
 
Jiro said:
which one do you value more? nice road or nice freedom?
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Freedom isn't THAT expensive.

A better question would be, "Which do you value more: nice roads, education, health care, etc... or WORLD DOMINATION."
 
netrox said:
it's really digusting - you complain about how our government is spending yet they ignore how much money is spent on military:

That has to stop! America spends more on its military than THE NEXT 15 COUNTRIES COMBINED!

World Military Spending ? Global Issues

Cost of deploying one U.S. soldier for one year in Iraq - $390,000:

Iraq War Facts, Statistics at September 29, 2010, 2010 - Iraq War Casualties, Spending

That has to stop.
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Plus we increased our military aid to Israel. It makes me want to puke to see jets flying over football and baseball stadiums, never mind the military trappings being force-fed to us in halftime. Jeez.
 
Jiro said:
which one do you value more? nice road or nice freedom?
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It isn't freedom when we spent way too much that we ignore OUR country's needs.

It's like Russia tried to spend so much money on military might that it just collapsed.
 
netrox said:
It isn't freedom when we spent way too much that we ignore OUR country's needs.
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netrox said:
It's like Russia tried to spend so much money on military might that it just collapsed.
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We won Cold War against Russia and we're still #1 to this date. why? the only difference between us and them is that it's voluntary in here. Apparently - we're willing to fight to death against tyranny at all cost and some are not.
 
The thread title is misleading. There is a limit to military spending. Each military branch has to stay within its budget. When stuff runs out during the fiscal year, it runs out. Ask anyone who has been in the military or federal civil service what happens by September.
 
TheWriteAlex said:
Freedom isn't THAT expensive.
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yes it is but... it shouldn't be EXORBITANTLY expensive either.

TheWriteAlex said:
A better question would be, "Which do you value more: nice roads, education, health care, etc... or WORLD DOMINATION."
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let's see...

no freedom..... no nice road... no nice education... no nice health care... no nothing. The world domination would be.... Chinese
 
Jiro said:
yes it is but... it shouldn't be EXORBITANTLY expensive either.


let's see...

no freedom..... no nice road... no nice education... no nice health care... no nothing. The world domination would be.... Chinese
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Do we need a military base in practically every country of the world, including those that we are already heavily allied with?
 
TheWriteAlex said:
Do we need a military base in practically every country of the world, including those that we are already heavily allied with?
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Yeah, isn't there something like over 700 bases in foreign countries around the world?
 
TheWriteAlex said:
Do we need a military base in practically every country of the world, including those that we are already heavily allied with?
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I should mention that there are American detachments in some places like North Bay. Although there is no American military base in Canada that I know of. I don't see why we would allow one anyway. I recall reading that the Americans did try to annex Yukon at one point.

However, Canada is a NATO member. We do make our military bases available to other NATO members.
 
TheWriteAlex said:
Do we need a military base in practically every country of the world, including those that we are already heavily allied with?
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sure why not? it's for logistical purpose (supply, medical, humanitarian, etc.) in a strategically-placed locations, not show of force. What you think why we're able to respond to any situation faster and better?

if a certain crisis is about to escalate into worse... we'll simply send in warships/aircraft carriers from American shore to it and be combat-ready for it. Not all bases from around the world allow the use of their bases for attacking. Back in Iraq War - the German government forbade the Americans to launch attack from Germany.... which was why we had to fly in stealth fighters from America - a non-stop trip.

the reason for aircraft carrier is because most of our allies where we have American bases in it do not allow the use of their country as a launching base for attack. Solution? aircraft carrier on international sea. America... fuck yea :cool2:
 
Jiro said:
sure why not? it's for logistical purpose (supply, medical, humanitarian, etc.) in a strategically-placed locations, not show of force. What you think why we're able to respond to any situation faster and better?

if a certain crisis is about to escalate into worse... we'll simply send in warships/aircraft carriers from American shore to it and be combat-ready for it. Not all bases from around the world allow the use of their bases for attacking. Back in Iraq War - the German government forbade the Americans to launch attack from Germany.... which was why we had to fly in stealth fighters from America - a non-stop trip.

the reason for aircraft carrier is because most of our allies where we have American bases in it do not allow the use of their country as a launching base for attack. Solution? aircraft carrier on international sea. America... fuck yea :cool2:
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Maybe we should ask the American people if they enjoy their tax dollars going towards policing the world. Quite frankly, natural disasters and humanitarian crises in other countries are not our responsibility. Neither was bringing democracy to Iraq. Neither was overthrowing the Taliban. Sure, there's a lot of messed up regimes in the world, but let their own people rise up and correct the problems (watch how we did way back in 1776, bitches).

I'm an isolationist, which incidentally is a conservative trait. :eek3:
 
It's odd really. A lot of people don't want to solve other countries' problems, but they have no problem pouring money into our military. And yet... most of our military is used to solve other countries' problems.

That thought process has lost me somewhere.
 
TheWriteAlex said:
Maybe we should ask the American people if they enjoy their tax dollars going towards policing the world. Quite frankly, natural disasters and humanitarian crises in other countries are not our responsibility. Neither was bringing democracy to Iraq. Neither was overthrowing the Taliban. Sure, there's a lot of messed up regimes in the world, but let their own people rise up and correct the problems (watch how we did way back in 1776, bitches).

I'm an isolationist, which incidentally is a conservative trait. :eek3:
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Good thing France didn't think like that. Just sayin........
 
Daredevel7 said:
It's odd really. A lot of people don't want to solve other countries' problems, but they have no problem pouring money into our military. And yet... most of our military is used to solve other countries' problems.

That thought process has lost me somewhere.
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correction - we are pouring money into our military to prevent the problem from affecting us especially economy. and we are also pouring money into military to ensure that we have a constant supply of clean water, food, and oil readily available for our consumption 24/7.
 
TheWriteAlex said:
Quite frankly, natural disasters and humanitarian crises in other countries are not our responsibility.
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That would means other countries won't help us or offer any assistance in the time of needs :(
 
Jiro said:
That would means other countries won't help us or offer any assistance in the time of needs :(
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We wouldn't need anybody else' help if we had all our resources and personnel at home running a well-organized system.

Similarly, if we had a strong home defense system (we already do, but it could be even better, and we could make our borders more secure), who would mess with us? Also, let's remember, if we kept our war machine within our own borders and quit meddling in other people's business, nobody would have a reason to attack us anyway.
 
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