Drinkers live longer than non-drinkers

Reba said:
:dunno:

My dad and mom each died at age 66 years. My dad drank, and my mom didn't. They were in bad health the last few years of their lives.
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It is situational, a better perspective is to look at the mortality rates for people who were born in the late 1800's or early 1900's. I am sure the differences in statistics compared to rates today may imply something.



I'm really sure that the study is not wholly concise and its relevancy doesn't contribute to fermented beverages, like beer for example. But that is of course obvious, the ethanol in beer are nowhere near the volume in spirits.
 
Same idea for smoking, some people smokes for many years and live longer than some people who don't smoke live shorter.

yea it is completely off the point. :ugh3:
 
naisho said:
It is situational, a better perspective is to look at the mortality rates for people who were born in the late 1800's or early 1900's. I am sure the differences in statistics compared to rates today may imply something.
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I'm thinking my own parents' genetics has more influence on my longevity than millions of strangers in a study.

They were born in 1919, and 1925.


I'm really sure that the study is not wholly concise and its relevancy doesn't contribute to fermented beverages, like beer for example. But that is of course obvious, the ethanol in beer are nowhere near the volume in spirits.
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:dunno:
My dad almost never drank beer. He preferred champagne or mixed drinks (such as rum and Coke).
 
I've had many discussions with my friends many times. My friend's family, for generations had made and drank wine. They've had their own vineyards, wine presses, and barrels. They also had no history of heart/circulatory problems.

He and his father (expert wine maker) joined the church, and the generations of wine making/drink ends- poof. He and his father are the first in their family to have heart/circulatory problems. It could be coincidence. His doctor has prescribed alcohol consumption for him. He's got approval from his bishop to drink wine a day for medical reasons. I guess his genetic code needs wine. He was born in Portugal.

My father is in his 80s, and never drinks any alcohol. All of his siblings are in the 80s and 90s now, and are still alive. They eat plenty of spicy stuff. They never drink alcohol or smoke. They are extremely active. However, they do wine for 'cooking'.

My step grandmother never drank any alcohol. She popped jalapenos like a candy. She passed away when she was 100. That was 15 years ago. I guess capsaicin helps a lot. When I eat hot peppers like poblano, it always does make me feel full.

Dark chocolate is extremely popular in my family, and it is good for any heart. It has to be pure cacao, and it tastes extremely bitter. I prefer 85% pure cacao, not 100%.
 
Frisky Feline said:
Same idea for smoking, some people smokes for many years and live longer than some people who don't smoke live shorter.

yea it is completely off the point. :ugh3:
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True, Bad luck if they got lung cancer. Also, smoker made skin looks 10-20 years older. I thought my father is younger than his few friends who smoke. I was wrong. They are younger than my father.

Many doctors knew smoke about risk and they still do smoke to help less stress.
 
Reba said:
I'm thinking my own parents' genetics has more influence on my longevity than millions of strangers in a study.

They were born in 1919, and 1925.
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and lifestyle. Everybody exercised and ate healthier food back then.
 
Well, my parents don't drink much and they live pretty long time. My mom is 59 and dad is 70 and still works in the garden. They also eat health food, too.
 
The Highlander said:
True, Bad luck if they got lung cancer. Also, smoker made skin looks 10-20 years older. I thought my father is younger than his few friends who smoke. I was wrong. They are younger than my father.

Many doctors knew smoke about risk and they still do smoke to help less stress.
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my grandma finally die from smoking for over 90 years.

My grandpa still alive, over 90 years on long-time drinker. Hmmm

That make me wonder about my parents.
 
rolling7 said:
there is a reason for this...
Drinkers get drunk....drive...kill non-drinkers
therefore non-drinkers live shorter lives
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:lol: That's fine, whatever you say. That post of mine, if you will go over it again , was a call to get back on topic, that's all.
 
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The Highlander said:
The farmers still eat health food right now.
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Old MacDonald had a farm, eee-yi-eee-yi-oh. And on this farm he had a cow, eee-yi-eee-yi-oh. With a moo moo here and a moo moo there. Here a moo, there a moo, everywhere a moo moo. Old Mac Donald had a farm, eee-yi-eee-yi-oh.
 
naisho said:
Here's a publication to back up my claim and it is on E. coli no less, one if not the most common bacteria in all humans. It's pretty old info for those who already knew about it, but if you didn't then good to learn something new.
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Ethanol pretty kills any living organism if given high concentration. It does not function as an antibiotic for your body because the concentration is not high enough to kill bacteria and if you attempt to do it, you'll die anyway.
 
netrox said:
Ethanol pretty kills any living organism if given high concentration. It does not function as an antibiotic for your body because the concentration is not high enough to kill bacteria and if you attempt to do it, you'll die anyway.
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what kills bacteria doesn't always kill you. otherwise.... how do we drink 120 proof vodka? :dizzy:

and it's good enough to disinfect a knife
 
Jiro said:
what kills bacteria doesn't always kill you. otherwise.... how do we drink 120 proof vodka? :dizzy:

and it's good enough to disinfect a knife
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Only on a surface. You cannot disinfect your body infections with alcohol. You can pour alcohol safely on skin or your mouth to kill germs but when you consume it inside thinking it will kill germs inside the body, it won't. It'd be way too diluted and if reached to a concentration to kill bacteria, it will kill you.

I don't know if you experience that but if you gargle Listerine for 1 minute (not 30 seconds) and spit it out, you may find that there's a lot of white film coming out of your mouth after a few minutes. It's the killed healthy cells. That is linked to higher risk of oral cancers... which is not surprising.

Drinkers live longer and it has nothing to do with the antibiotic effect but rather that alcohol performs a lot of functions such as inhibiting blood clots and increasing fibrolysis. But of course, drinking wine or cocktails may reduce food poisoning (altho it's not conclusive yet) and that's basically based on a hypothesis that it kills bacteria on surface.
 
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