Manchester Teachers Banned From Wearing Jeans

[shel90]

What is "goody goody" about following a dress code? I don't understand what the problem is.

What's so special about wearing jeans on Fridays? Is the activity on the job or at school different on Fridays?

Just because someone has a view on some things and make rules on them, I will speak up against those rules instead of being goody goody and follow them just because they say so.

Jeans are soo comfortable and it brings better attitudes among staff whenever we have "jeans" day.

 

[KristinaB]

I don't think I ever had a job where I could where jeans at all. It was always "Business Professional" or "Business Casual".

 

[Reba]

Just because someone has a view on some things and make rules on them, I will speak up against those rules instead of being goody goody and follow them just because they say so.

I can understand that if the rules are draconian or unfairly enforced. But just because something is a "rule" doesn't make it automatically a bad thing. Most rules are established for a logical reason, not "just because they say so."

I'm curious; do you teach your students to obey your rules for class conduct? Or do you encourage them to disobey your rules and disrupt the class?

I still don't understand how obeying logical rules is a "goody goody" behavior to be disparaged.

I'd rather save my battles for the real injustices that I see happen in schools rather than get worked up about dress codes.

Jeans are soo comfortable and it brings better attitudes among staff whenever we have "jeans" day.

That's your opinion. I find real jeans, heavy-weight denim, with the thick seams, metal zipper, and belt-looped waistband to be a lot less comfortable than light-weight khaki slacks or knit slacks. Most of the time they are too hot to wear around here.

Does the staff really have a better attitude because they're wearing jeans or because TGIF and they're looking forward to the weekend off?

Side note--not all jeans are created equal, and not all bods wearing the jeans are created equal. Jeans-wearing doesn't always improve the view.

 

[Reba]

I don't know. I thing jeans always get a bad rap. As long as they are not so tight they look painted on and as long as they don't have holes in them I really dont' see a problem with jeans.

That's another whole can of worms.

If jeans are allowed, then there will be disagreements as to what kind of jeans are acceptable. How tight is too tight? How faded is too faded? How baggy is too baggy?

Jeans come in all styles and ways to wear them.

Big difference between bib overall jeans with boots and flannel shirt, and tight rolled up jeans with low-cut fuzzy sweater and stilettos.

 

[Reba]

I don't think I ever had a job where I could where jeans at all. It was always "Business Professional" or "Business Casual".

Same here. Even when I worked in house keeping and at a movie theater, we had dress codes and/or uniforms.

TCS (Hubby) has a business that requires him to go into people's homes and businesses. The clients feel a lot more comfortable with him wearing a uniform with his name and the business name on it. In fact, some of the larger corporate clients insist on it.

I live and work in a hot climate that caters to tourism, so "Business Casual" is popular with the professionals.

 

[TXgolfer]

What is "goody goody" about following a dress code? I don't understand what the problem is.

What's so special about wearing jeans on Fridays? Is the activity on the job or at school different on Fridays?

Pep rallys on fridays or field days I understand. I wouldn't think dressing nice would be too oppressive most days.

Dunno.

Never seen what so comfortable about jeans; cargo pants, yes, but not jeans.

I always preferred regular black slacks for work over jeans. :\

100% agree. Jeans may be the most uncomfortable clothing I own. Hate jeans. Slacks look nice and feel like pajamas......that's hard to beat.

 

[Jiro]

Obama - put on your dang jacket. Get your feet off the table. show some respect.

oh wait..... i'm in wrong thread

 

[Berry]

I think schools should spend more time teaching subjects and less time teaching conformity.

 

[Jiro]

I love jeans but I detest loose one, baggy one, ripped one, etc. I wear modern fit with custom-cut length. I wear "professional-jeans" with button-down shirts at work.

 

[dogmom]

am in agreement with you there, Berry

I personally really like jeans and wear those and cords pretty much all the time, except for working out. If I had an outside-home job where anything more than jeans were required, I'd have to go buy stuff for it cause I think I only have one pair of formal type of long pants.

 

[CJB]

God forbid they wear white after Labour Day!

 

[CJB]

I get the idea behind dress codes but most of the time they go overkill. :roll:

•Jeans
•T-shirts that have writing, pictures or are considered underwear
•Tank tops
•Shorts
•Sweats, wind suits and gym clothes
•Spandex
•Flip-flops
•Sneakers
•Tops that are low-cut, cropped, tube or have spaghetti straps
•Sheer clothing
•Short skirts that are more than 2 inches above the knee
•Skirts with front slits more than 2 inches above the knee
•Clothes with holes
•Pajamas
•Facial piercings

Maybe it's just me but I really don't see "jeans" and "clothes with holes" as being on the same level. Especially since jeans come in so many varieties. Black jeans can look pretty formal if you ask me.

And sneakers? The threat! Teachers stand up all day. If I had to stand up all day, I'd want to wear sneakers too. Even without standing up all day, sneakers are the only shoes I can bear to wear for pain reasons. I'd have to have one hell of a salary to suffer for a dress code.

 

[deafskeptic]

am in agreement with you there, Berry

I personally really like jeans and wear those and cords pretty much all the time, except for working out. If I had an outside-home job where anything more than jeans were required, I'd have to go buy stuff for it cause I think I only have one pair of formal type of long pants.

I have a pair of nice black slacks but I live in mostly jeans. I have a pair of jeans that I got in a thrift shop and I converted them to skinny jeans. I don't think they'd be suitable for business though even if I dye them black. Cords do not agree with me. I look washed out in beige so I don't wear that.

 

[somedeafdudefromPNW]

Wirelessly posted

Anyone would look washed out in biege.

 

[Reba]

Wirelessly posted

Anyone would look washed out in biege.

The trick with beige is to not wear it close the face. Beige pants and skirts are OK if they're worn with a top that has more color, or with a colorful scarf around the neck.

I don't wear beige but khaki-tan, which is close. Usually if I wear khaki on the bottom half, I wear dark olive, black, red, or navy blue on the top half.

 

[jillio]

I don't know. I thing jeans always get a bad rap. As long as they are not so tight they look painted on and as long as they don't have holes in them I really dont' see a problem with jeans.

Exactly. One can portray professionalism in jeans just as they can in a business suit. The issue of professionalism is more about attitude and the way one conducts oneself than about what one has on.

Particularly in my profession, it is necessary for a client to be able to relate to a therapist on order for the honesty needed in the relationship to be present. I live on the edge of Appalachia. Overdress, and the client is distrustful of you as an authority figure. Of course, that would be different in NYC.

 

[shel90]

I can understand that if the rules are draconian or unfairly enforced. But just because something is a "rule" doesn't make it automatically a bad thing. Most rules are established for a logical reason, not "just because they say so."

I'm curious; do you teach your students to obey your rules for class conduct? Or do you encourage them to disobey your rules and disrupt the class?

I still don't understand how obeying logical rules is a "goody goody" behavior to be disparaged.

I'd rather save my battles for the real injustices that I see happen in schools rather than get worked up about dress codes.



That's your opinion. I find real jeans, heavy-weight denim, with the thick seams, metal zipper, and belt-looped waistband to be a lot less comfortable than light-weight khaki slacks or knit slacks. Most of the time they are too hot to wear around here.

Does the staff really have a better attitude because they're wearing jeans or because TGIF and they're looking forward to the weekend off?

Side note--not all jeans are created equal, and not all bods wearing the jeans are created equal. Jeans-wearing doesn't always improve the view.

Reba, I am an adult..not a child. If I dont agree with some rules, I will speak up and find a halfway point to make compromises.

 

[jillio]

I think schools should spend more time teaching subjects and less time teaching conformity.

In a perfect world.:P

 

[Reba]

Reba, I am an adult..not a child. If I dont agree with some rules, I will speak up and find a halfway point to make compromises.

I know that you're an adult and role model to the children who look up to you. If you are discreetly addressing your grievances thru the chain of command, then the kids don't even have to know that there's a problem.

 

[shel90]

I know that you're an adult and role model to the children who look up to you. If you are discreetly addressing your grievances thru the chain of command, then the kids don't even have to know that there's a problem.

Oh of course. I wouldnt model that to the kids.

I say sarcastic stuff here on AD sometimes but in real life when trying to find solutions, I wouldnt say stuff like that. That definitely wouldnt work.