Shots Fired at National Holocaust Museum in D.C.

Reba said:
You have a point. The shooter was a bitter nutcase full of hate who desecrated a memorial, terrorized tourists, and killed a security officer in the line of duty. Unless the police find evidence that the shooter was part of some organized plot to make further attacks, he should be judged for his own personal actions. It should not be a political blame game.

Scum is scum no matter from which side of the cesspool it comes.
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Yep. Exactly.
 
Jiro´s post
tell that to Liebling
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No, tell that to you and Kokonut.

Please re-read your own and his posts that´s why I tried to convince you both with my questions.

Re-read this

My two posts response to Kokonut since he started to blame Socialism for Holocaust denier´s behavior.

Liebling:-))) said:
kokonut,

I can see that you have no clue what Socialism means. I have seen many Americans confused Socialism with Communism... :roll:
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Liebling:-))) said:
That man is an anti-semitist and Holocaust denier. It has nothing do with socialism.
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You quoted my post, telling me that Kokonut is right.

kokonut said:
Er, he is a socialist. He's for socialism!
FrontPage Magazine - Holocaust Museum Shooter: Christian-Hating Socialist
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Jiro said:
but kokonut got it right. government now owns 60% of GM. that is a form of socialism in a way.
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Jiro said:
then I guess it is.


That is in response to Liebling's post in response to kokonut's post. It was to clarify for her.
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That´s why I made a list to question you.

And I re-quoted Kokonut´s post to convince him that Holocaust denier´s behavior has nothing do with Socialism.



Liebling:-))) said:
Did you know that there´re socialism vs capitalism? Many people support socialism or capitalism..

His support for socialism has nothing do with his crime.
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Don´t tell that to me but tell that to you and Kokonut. :)
 
Liebling:-))) said:
My two posts response to Kokonut since he started to blame Socialism for Holocaust denier´s behavior.
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Er, I did not even remotely suggest (nor even attempted to start to blame) that I blamed socialism for causing the nutcase to deny the Holocaust. Please provide a link that shows my comment where I said this. Else, learn not to put words into my mouth the next time.

What exactly are you smoking anyways? The topic I discussed wasn't about what caused the man to deny the Holocaust. That's a whole different topic.
 
For the deniers...

Surely if people were employed to fabricate mountains of evidence as you claim, you must know some details about some of these things. You seem to have discovered this grand hoax that has fooled the world, surely a few names and places must be a minor feat for such geniuses.

Barry Shein, 1994
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Friedrich Berg briefly discusses this fantasy forgery whirlwind:

Practically every scrap of such evidence is a postwar fabrication, fabricated by people who had been employed primarily to generate such "evidence" since there was absolutely no other evidence to begin with.
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"People who had been employed primarily to generate such 'evidence.'"

Who was the employer?

How many employees were there?

I work at a fairly small company; my department is about ten people. We don't try to do nearly as much as these fantastic Jewish forgers must have.

I mean, those guys must have been productive! Draftspeople to forge plans for the buildings, chemists to decide how the Nazis would have done the killing, authors to write fake diaries of the Sonderkommando and bury them at Auschwitz (to remain undiscovered for decades) ... voice talent and audio engineers to forge Himmler's hours-long Poznan speeches, writers to decide who would have written what memos to whom, and the typists -- good heavens, can you imagine the number of typists the whole Operation Jewish Forgery would have required!? They literally had to forge the entire workings of a small but significant part of the German government for four or five years.

Right down to the endless pages detailing which military groups took which positions and how many Jews they killed, rows and rows of small numbers, tabulated, formulated. They must have intercepted the actual routes that the Einsatzgruppen took, figured out which prisoners they took, forged documents saying that they'd executed all the Jews, and then inserted the forgeries into the appropriate places. Wow. That's a lot of work. Hundreds of Einsatzgruppen reports to forge. And that's just the Einsatzgruppen, that's just a million or so murders to report. Multiply that times ten, that's the scale we're talking.

Somehow the Jews got their Jew agents to be there when this forged evidence was presented to Hoess and Broad and Kremer and all the dozens of Nazis tried in 1945 and 1946. All of them must have had the same initial reaction: "what!? I never wrote that!?" but the Jew agents, of course, slapped them around a bit until they admitted it was true. And the Jew agents were very good, because every single one of them admitted that it was true. Those agents must have been quite good at making Nazis admit things, because a lot of those Nazis were seasoned military men. Where'd they hire those agents from?

They found a few thousand Jews who were willing to lie through their teeth and say that Auschwitz was an extermination camp, not a concentration camp. They must have held a big meeting, gathered all the survivors together, and briefed them. "OK," the Head Jew would have said, "repeat after me: Auschwitz was not a nice place to live. You did not go swimming at Auschwitz. Auschwitz used its morgues to gas people. In the summer of 1944 they burned bodies in ditches. Everyone on the left, you actually saw people being led to the gas chambers. You on the right, you did not, but you heard a lot about it." And so on.

All in all, the survivors did a good job of remembering their instructions. Sure, some of them went overboard and started talking about huge clouds of smoke billowing out of the crematories when it was actually pretty smoke-free. In fact these minor slip-ups would be the only way that, decades later, revisionists would deduce that they were lying. So overall, they all stuck to their story remarkably well.

And then they did the same thing over and over, for the trials in the 1950s and 1960s. Even for trails that took place in Germany, the Jewish agents found a way to torture innocent German defendants in German jail cells into confessing, before a German court, to crimes they didn't commit.

Most crafty of all, the Jews didn't forge documents that would provide hard links from Hitler to the gas chambers. They refused to forge a "Führer Order" that would indict Hitler. They pretended the gassings were cloaked in secrecy, so they forged documents that spoke only in code-words, and then other documents to link the code-words to murder.

Rather than forge an inventory of the gas chamber in which it was called a "gas chamber," they forged an inventory for a morgue which listed 17 showerheads -- and then let it remain undiscovered for years until researchers realized its importance!

The ultimate in sneaky!
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The Hoax of the Holocaust. Where's the Evidence?

Either deniers are insane, stoopid, badly (dis)informed or just plain racists when it comes to their looney conspiracy theories that 6 million Jews weren't murdered in cold blood.
 
My niece is college student and works part time at National Holocaust Museum. She was day off that time crazy guy shoot at first floor. If, she is there. I am sure that she is fine. Most time, she works at upstair and very private room for research history.

Other my niece is college student at Russia. Also, she research part of jewish history in russia for her sister and study in russian language/culture.
 
souggy said:
Why is this thread... bumped?

It's only going to refuel the bloody damn debate.
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What debate? I only updated the information, letting people know that the shooter is dead. I don't think that is debatable.
 
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