Pro-life advocate murdered in Michigan

[yizuman]

As much as your logic justifies killing a pedophile but forcing a girl who has been raped by her father to carry an incestuos pregnancy to term.

Obviously, you will never be in the position of making that decision for yourself. Quite self righteous of you to think you should make it for one that does find themselves in that circumstance.

Yer getting off topic, since when Bell is a pedophile?

Yiz

 

[jillio]

No, for most cases, the abortion being performed by majority is for convenience. The cases where the mother is at risk is very, very low. Less than 5%.

The saving a life comment is a cop out and a lame excuse for having an abortion. For the most majority of the reason is not only about convenience, it's also because of embarrassment that they made a stupid mistake and they don't want to own up to that responsibility, so it's easier to kill it rather than taking responsibility of caring for the child. It's no different from a dad who takes off when the word "pregnant" pops up.

Yiz

You might want to check the stats on that. They say otherwise.

And how could you possibly know an individual woman's reason for seeking an abortion? You just assume that it is a matter of convenience or the result of embarrassment. You really think that women are so much more morally depraved than men? Let's talk about the women who give birth only to have some dick on legs abandon them and their child out of convenience.

 

[jillio]

Yer getting off topic, since when Bell is a pedophile?

Yiz

Read again, yiz. No one said Bell was a pedophile.

 

[yizuman]

I think I'd best get off here, you're getting wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy to emotionally involved in this topic that alot of my quotes that you are taking is becoming off topic.

Glad I don't let my emotions rule over logic.

Then again, since when Liberals ever been logical?

Yiz

 

[jillio]

Carry the pregnancy to term and put the child up for adoption.

Then you would force your daughter to carry a rapist's child or the incestuous child of a close male relative and increase her trauma 100 times over. Then I stand by statement: you are one heartless individual.

 

[jillio]

I think I'd best get off here, you're getting wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy to emotionally involved in this topic that alot of my quotes that you are taking is becoming off topic.

Glad I don't let my emotions rule over logic.

Then again, since when Liberals ever been logical?

Yiz

It isn't your posts that are twisted; it is your logic and reasoning. And you are doing that all by yourself.

 

[yizuman]

You might want to check the stats on that. They say otherwise.

And how could you possibly know an individual woman's reason for seeking an abortion? You just assume that it is a matter of convenience or the result of embarrassment. You really think that women are so much more morally depraved than men? Let's talk about the women who give birth only to have some dick on legs abandon them and their child out of convenience.

Abortion is abandonment just the same as some dick on legs who takes off running when he hears the word "baby".

When a woman hears the word "baby", same reaction! "Get it out of me! Get it out of me! Arrrggghhh! Ick! Ick! Ick!" :roll:

Yiz

 

[jillio]

Abortion is abandonment just the same as some dick on legs who takes off running when he hears the word "baby".

When a woman hears the word "baby", same reaction! "Get it out of me! Get it out of me! Arrrggghhh! Ick! Ick! Ick!" :roll:

Yiz

So you are assuming that is a woman's reaction to pregnancy, and believe that women do not go through hell making the decisions they have to make. Nice one. Don't think much of women, do you?

 

[yizuman]

Then you would force your daughter to carry a rapist's child or the incestuous child of a close male relative and increase her trauma 100 times over. Then I stand by statement: you are one heartless individual.

So a child with no fault of their own is guilty because of rape and incest? The mother is neither at fault of rape or incest either.

You're talking convenience again, not finger wagging the perp who raped or committed incest against the victim.

The victim needs love and understanding and so does the child. The victim needs counseling. No one should make light of the crime. Ever.

 

[jillio]

So a child with no fault of their own is guilty because of rape and incest? The mother is neither at fault of rape or incest either.

You're talking convenience again, not finger wagging the perp who raped or committed incest against the victim.

The victim needs love and understanding and so does the child. The victim needs counseling. No one should make light of the crime. Ever.

Is the woman who endured a brutal rape attack any less innocent? This hasn't got anything to do with the rapist. It has to do with a woman's right to make choices regarding her own body. The rapist already took that right away once. And you would take it away again by denying her a choice and empowerment. You are doing the very same thing to her that the rapist already did. It has virtually nothing to do with convenience. And a rape victim will need counseling no matter if they are impregnated or not.

It is truly ironic that one who would never have to find themselves in this position thinks they are so superior as to tell one who is in that position what they have to do about it.

Pfft...I'm done here. You have shown your true colors. Sperm worshiper.

 

[yizuman]

So you are assuming that is a woman's reaction to pregnancy, and believe that women do not go through hell making the decisions they have to make. Nice one. Don't think much of women, do you?

If I thought very little of women, then I wouldn't be married now, wouldn't I?

Our wedding

Our honeymoon, my wife wanted a teddy bear and we got one.

I love my wife like I love my life. We're inseparable. And despite of the fact she's gone through hell physically when she had a congestive heart failure, renal failure, respiratory arrest and a stroke last year on May 18th. I was there for her every single day of hell, holding her hand and hugging her and wiping away her tears.

She's home now and on a medical bed, she isn't the same as last year, but thank God she's still with me and I'm loving it when I take care of her every single day, giving her meds and tucking her in for the night.

Don't be presumptuous of me. I love life, my wife and every human being on this earth, both born and unborn. I never make light of anything.

I can love a human being, but I don't have to like the inhumanity of man or woman.

Yiz

 

[yizuman]

Is the woman who endured a brutal rape attack any less innocent? This hasn't got anything to do with the rapist. It has to do with a woman's right to make choices regarding her own body. The rapist already took that right away once. And you would take it away again by denying her a choice and empowerment. You are doing the very same thing to her that the rapist already did. It has virtually nothing to do with convenience. And a rape victim will need counseling no matter if they are impregnated or not.

It is truly ironic that one who would never have to find themselves in this position thinks they are so superior as to tell one who is in that position what they have to do about it.

Pfft...I'm done here. You have shown your true colors. Sperm worshiper.

What of the right of the unborn child? A child who is voiceless and is at the mercy of the mother. An unborn child with no fault of their own is powerless to do or say anything. Who will speak for them? Who will defend the unborn?

Certainly not you, as you made up your mind the unborn child is not human, just a blob of tissue, something to be trashed. They're just garbage to be disposed of.

Yiz

 

[jillio]

A lot of men that are married basically dislike women. That doesn't prove a thing.

But nice try at tea and sympathy.

 

[Jiro]

OOOOOOO.......KKKKKKKKK................ we're going wwwaaaaayy off-topic!!!

 

[yizuman]

OOOOOOO.......KKKKKKKKK................ we're going wwwaaaaayy off-topic!!!

Yeppa, it has.

Abortion is a very emotional issue, has been since 1973, plus 40 million dead babies and counting.

Of course, it's racking up dead bodies of adults on both sides of the spectrum regarding abortion, both pro-abort and anti-abort. Which is in itself sad too.

This whole thing won't end anytime soon, unfortunately.

Yiz

 

[somedeafdudefromPNW]

What of the right of the unborn child? A child who is voiceless and is at the mercy of the mother. An unborn child with no fault of their own is powerless to do or say anything. Who will speak for them? Who will defend the unborn?

Certainly not you, as you made up your mind the unborn child is not human, just a blob of tissue, something to be trashed. They're just garbage to be disposed of.

Yiz

And why do you think it's fair for you to infringe your morals on the rights of others? In case of a hot-button issue like this, it's clear that the legal system won't work. The only way this issue can be dissolved is through tribalism: the person's choice to abort or not should be reflected upon their family's belief system.

Morally, I am not up for abortion, however I do recognize I can't impose my belief system on other people.

 

[yizuman]

And why do you think it's fair for you to infringe your morals on the rights of others? In case of a hot-button issue like this, it's clear that the legal system won't work. The only way this issue can be dissolved is through tribalism: the person's choice to abort or not should be reflected upon their family's belief system.

Morally, I am not up for abortion, however I do recognize I can't impose my belief system on other people.

It's not about infringing the rights of others, it's issue of what's right and what's wrong. As it stands with the law, there's not much we can do. As an American we are entitled to free speech and voice our opinion on this subject. As long we're not gun blazing each other that is. Nor is it right to try and muzzle an opinion.

Yiz

 

[somedeafdudefromPNW]

it's issue of what's right and what's wrong.

Aka-- morals.

What is "right" for one group of people is "wrong" for another group of people. Problem is everyone disagree on this issue, so-- answer is: tribalism.

 

[yizuman]

When you use the word, "tribalism", can you please explain what that is and what does it do? How does it help resolve the issue?

Yiz

 

[yizuman]

A lot of men that are married basically dislike women. That doesn't prove a thing.

But nice try at tea and sympathy.

Wow, talk about pulling something out of your ass. Again, you're presuming something you know very little about.

You don't know me personally nor you know my wife and family.

Don't prejudge me until you got to know fully about me. Abortion issue isn't one way of getting to know about a person. There's too many variables about one's life.

Yiz