When morals clash with claiming one's rights

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Okay, here's the run-down of the situation I am in, and am not entirely sure what to do about it.

I am technically deaf-blind and has been that way since I was an infant due to ROP and ear infections/oxototic drugs. I don't feel that my deafness or blindness impair my abilities at all. My family grew up with a Minnonite core value system, even though my mom and stepdad are not part of the Church; and my grandmother was a Minnonite. They raised me and my sister without any religious affliation and encouraged us to explore our own spirituality. I have actually developed an ingenious spiritual belief system that leave creationists baffled, and scientists giggle, but I will share and explain that in great detail at a later date on the Religion forum.

I feel that I face more discrimination from the get-go as a person with low vision than as a deaf person only because I can somewhat hide my deafness, but cannot hide my sight loss at all. I grew up in a BiBi setting until I was 10 or 11 and was allowed to express myself and be part of both hearing and Deaf community. When my family moved, I became socially isolated since the school system in the new city discouraged kids from interacting with each others and making contact with the local Deaf community.

When I tried to rejoin the Deaf community a few years ago, I felt rejected because the local Deaf in that city views sight loss to be a "disability" and not to be interacted with. In fact, the attitude I encoutered was completely different than the Deaf community I grew up in. So I spent a few years wandering around lost, trying to figure out where I belong. :roll:

Here's the kicker though, my entire family has been raised to be completely obedient to one's family and one's friends. Plus we were raised not partcipate in any conflicts and we were told to stay hush about any unfairness we may face as well as fulfill our family's and friend's every requests. To us, a life without conflict, not speaking up, not questioning other people's motives, not complaining about our unhappiness and so on is the key to fulfillness.

So I face a lot of discriminations, I let people do things to me, be rude toward me, and many of the things you guys described on the forum about what hearies do to deafies. Because I have been socially isolated for so long, I tend to view anyone that would talk to me to be my friend. I know it is ethically wrong for people to do things because I have a sight loss and a hearing loss. However I feel like if I speak up about these issues, it would be spiritually wrong and is against everything I have been taught.

I have only began questioning my morals ever since a girl broke up with me because she was furious about how I let people treat me differently. She was not at all impressed with the way my friends treated me, and told me that they were taking advantage of me. She had it with me after I let a guy on the LRT (light rail transit) slam me against the wall for no reason. Actually, we broke up after she said "you want to be a human, but you can't handle it." In fact, I learned from a friend that people view me as socially inept, when really deep down I just think it is not right to question why people do things. I actually have took to a strong liking to going to gigs and concerts recently since I feel that the people don't treat me any differently than other people.

So, I am at loss here what to do. My heart tells me one thing, which is the right thing to do which is to stand up for myself, but my values tell me another thing which is to stay quiet and be obedient. :run: Does anyone else have to face such ingrained family values? Gaaaawh.

I apologise for the excessively long post, but I am just really confused at the momeent. :shock:
 
Here's the kicker though, my entire family has been raised to be completely obedient to one's family and one's friends. Plus we were raised not partcipate in any conflicts and we were told to stay hush about any unfairness we may face as well as fulfill our family's and friend's every requests. To us, a life without conflict, not speaking up, not questioning other people's motives, not complaining about our unhappiness and so on is the key to fulfillness.

So I face a lot of discriminations, I let people do things to me, be rude toward me, and many of the things you guys described on the forum about what hearies do to deafies. Because I have been socially isolated for so long, I tend to view anyone that would talk to me to be my friend. I know it is ethically wrong for people to do things because I have a sight loss and a hearing loss. However I feel like if I speak up about these issues, it would be spiritually wrong and is against everything I have been taught.

I have been through the same thing for 18 years. Coincidentally, it was when I lost a female friend 4 years ago that made me question my beliefs. It was not until last year that I chose to try something new for myself. When I met my girlfriend, she opened my eyes to many things that I cannot thank her enough for. These positive changes are what influenced me, to be in peace with myself.

From the looks above, do you truly enjoy being discriminated against, be used as fodder and treated badly?

And how does it feel to not stand up for what is right?

Would you rather go forward with what you believe in or stick to what is taught to you?

The question is: deep down, do you feel fulfilled?

Your answers to the above will help you on your path.
 
Thank you so much for responding. :)

It's hard to find people that understand the situation I am in. I am just really tired of losing good friends because they themselves are tired of standing up for my rights. I thank them for that, and I don't know how to repay them.

But, no I don't feel fulfilled. It is not really fair for myself, and people should be educated how to treat deaf and blind properly. I am going to see if I can seek amnesty from an Anabaptist chaplain for abandoning my family's teachings of non-resistance since I can't seem to find the particular branch that my grandmother was under in my area. I need some closure on the issue. :\

Things are not as always so easy to do what people tell us, eh?
 
You need to ask yourself several tough questions.

Try to separate yourself from the Church this time. {FYI, Religion discussion is prohibited here at AD as far as I recall unless Alex has allowed it back.}

Ask yourself if you are passive/aggressive. If you are, is this an ingrained behaviour? [This means you "inherited" this from one or two parents.]

Are you a social outcast? If so, how do you truly feel about this?

How do you identify yourself? Deaf? Blind? Deaf-Blind?

Although you mentioned deaf-blindness, you used both in lower format, this leaves a lot about yourself and your identity.

Unfortunately the Deaf community finds it very easy to shun the DeafBlind people because it is an emotional reaction. I can understand this. Think back to the AIDS scare. The first emotional reaction was to shun the AIDS victim & the first panic reaction was to think "Will I get that "AIDS" from drinking from the same water fountain/holding their hand/them sneezing on me?"

Take the same panic reaction from the Deaf Community and apply that to the DB community. It is because they're not really educated and are afraid of how to approach us properly. They find it easy to outcast us knowing they may become us in old age/an unfortunate accident and so on.

Like you said, things are never easy like people say because it's always easier said than done.

Just hang in there my dear DB brother!! 90 Love to you, souggy!!
 
You need to ask yourself several tough questions.

Try to separate yourself from the Church this time. {FYI, Religion discussion is prohibited here at AD as far as I recall unless Alex has allowed it back.}

Ask yourself if you are passive/aggressive. If you are, is this an ingrained behaviour? [This means you "inherited" this from one or two parents.]

No problem, I wholesomely agree with that position. I wasn't sure how to clarify my behaviour without bringing up how I was brought up. Most people don't understand why I act the way I do until they find out what my grandmother was, then they are not so cruel toward me for not being vocal about my rights. You have to understand, in my mind, parental upbringing and actual belief system are two separate things which I did hold back and bit my tongue. Hopefully mods can make a better decision what to do with the topic.

Are you a social outcast? If so, how do you truly feel about this?

How do you identify yourself? Deaf? Blind? Deaf-Blind?

Although you mentioned deaf-blindness, you used both in lower format, this leaves a lot about yourself and your identity.

Put it simply, I have had considered myself to be a Deaf-Blind (both with capitals) until I was 13 or 14, then I just dropped the whole cultural aspect that go with the Deaf component after a few years in an oral-only school.

I know why I get singled out though. Hearing aid, no sense of directional hearing, absence of hearing certain sounds, flat vowels, slurred high-frequency consonants don't bother me too much for some reason. People don't take notice of those things unless they hear me talk or wonder why I don't respond.

However when people treat me differently before they met me because I need a monocular, standing underneath a street sign to read, hold a book or piece of paper to my nose, or use a programming ruler to read the menu, or my social bubble is virtually non existant and is too close to people for their comforts. Yeah...

I would like to be a part of the Deaf culture once again, like when I used to be a part of as a kid, without the socio-economic nasty side to it, without shunned for my blindness. I can handle not being accepted for my high level of writing and reading and ability to speak, but I don't think I should be outcasted for my vision; I means I honestly don't see the difference between me and them since the level of vision I have is all I have known. Pun's not intended.

Unfortunately the Deaf community finds it very easy to shun the DeafBlind people because it is an emotional reaction. I can understand this. Think back to the AIDS scare. The first emotional reaction was to shun the AIDS victim & the first panic reaction was to think "Will I get that "AIDS" from drinking from the same water fountain/holding their hand/them sneezing on me?"

Take the same panic reaction from the Deaf Community and apply that to the DB community. It is because they're not really educated and are afraid of how to approach us properly. They find it easy to outcast us knowing they may become us in old age/an unfortunate accident and so on.

Thank you. :) That insight makes me feel better. * hugs *
 
*big hugs to you*

It's because I went through the similar emotions you are going through and I still experience it.

It is never easy being a DB, believe it.

I advocate for everyone's right to communication and accessibility because I advocate for yours and mine too as well.

I find it very easy to reach out to my own peers because I can relate to the same feelings and emotions.
 
Minnonite? Do you mean Mennonite? My ancestors on my mother's side were Mennonites.

Anyway, I face the possiblity of eventally becoming Deaf-Blind if my diabetes isn't taken care of. For the moment, my eyes are disease free.

Sometimes I'm not sure how to act around deaf-blind. I think some of the other deaf are like that. They may react differntly than I do and becoming blind is a lot of Deafs biggest fear (myself included). But I try to do my best around them.
 
*big hugs to you*

It's because I went through the similar emotions you are going through and I still experience it.

It is never easy being a DB, believe it.

I advocate for everyone's right to communication and accessibility because I advocate for yours and mine too as well.

I find it very easy to reach out to my own peers because I can relate to the same feelings and emotions.

You have no idea how much your words means to me. :giggle: I was afraid if I disclose the inner turmoils on the forum, I would backslide into having a messy, depressive house again.

But yes, that brick wall that we all hit sure blows, doesn't it? I just need to work on standing up and advocating for my own rights to help every deaf and blind people out there to be accepted by the general public.
 
deafskeptic Minnonite? Do you mean Mennonite? My ancestors on my mother's side were Mennonites.

Yep, my spellcheck died. However I am not going to comment on the religion or the people other than the social aspect in the upbringings.

Sometimes I'm not sure how to act around deaf-blind. I think some of the other deaf are like that. They may react differntly than I do and becoming blind is a lot of Deafs biggest fear (myself included). But I try to do my best around them.

The impression I get from the CNIB, which Canada's national blind organisation is struggling at the moment since the Deaf are dumping the deaf-blind on them en mass, it just means accepting that they need to do things differently to see better on their own by their own means without accepting help from another person. For myself, it means that I need to be about a foot away from the person to see the signs. For many Deaf people, they want a 3'-8' radius, or otherwise they feel violated by the intruder of their own social bubbles. Also, I can only handle 1 or 2 people signing at the same time, otherwise my vision gets too blurry.

Among us blind people, we can provide our own accommodations. All we ask is to allow us to be a part of your world if you don't mind our quirks.
 
I read your post out of curiosity, although you grew up in an intense disciplinary setting, I don't think your relatives had in mind the behaviors you described yourself as having. What might have happened is that you brought the behaviors upon yourself from exhibiting the wrong reaction. Yes it's difficult, but not impossible - I'm deaf-blind as well. For starters, I have dismissed any association as to what culture one belongs. It's a self-limitation that forces you to believe you can only be one way, in retrospect, you actually can fit right into other cultures - talk about bringing school cliques into the equation! LOL The point is to develop yourself socially - VERY important in this world. Have a plan for most situations you may encounter (yes, the only way to come to terms with any anxieties or insecurities you may have is to experience the rough road, if you fail, get back up, it's a learning situation, not the end of the world), and enjoy life! Worrying about what others think is a dead given to fail. Why? That's like trying to be someone you're not, your true self will eventually emerge, so develop your uniqueness, don't fall into the trap of trying to impress or making others happy, make YOU confident first. There are so many things to consider, though what I mentioned is a good foundation for you to start on. Remember, don't worry about whether to call yourself deaf-blind or what not, concentrate on EVERYTHING that you are capable of, and work on those weak links, life is always under modification, never stop improving yourself.
 
Souggy, if you don't mind, I'll give you a theological perspective since other ADers have given you excellent Deaf-Blind perspectives.

It's true that the Apostle Paul wrote this in the Bible, while he was imprisoned:

"I have learned, in whatsoever state I am, therewith to be content."

However, he didn't mean that we should just quietly take all our lumps from the world like a beaten dog.

Here's the full context from Philippians 4:

11. Not that I speak in respect of want: for I have learned, in whatsoever state I am, therewith to be content.

12. I know both how to be abased, and I know how to abound: every where and in all things I am instructed both to be full and to be hungry, both to abound and to suffer need.

13. I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.


So, Paul wrote that he was at peace whether his life was going well or going poorly because the power of Christ gave him strength.


Even so, Paul did stand up for his earthly rights when necessary. He used the Romans' own laws to his benefit.

Acts 22:

24. The chief captain commanded him [Paul] to be brought into the castle, and bade that he should be examined by scourging; that he might know wherefore they cried so against him.

25. And as they bound him with thongs, Paul said unto the centurion that stood by, "Is it lawful for you to scourge a man that is a Roman, and uncondemned?"

26. When the centurion heard that, he went and told the chief captain, saying, "Take heed what thou doest: for this man is a Roman."

27. Then the chief captain came, and said unto him, "Tell me, art thou a Roman?" He said, "Yea."

28. And the chief captain answered, "With a great sum obtained I this freedom." And Paul said, "But I was free born."

29. Then straightway they departed from him which should have examined him: and the chief captain also was afraid, after he knew that he was a Roman, and because he had bound him.

30. On the morrow, because he would have known the certainty wherefore he was accused of the Jews, he loosed him [Paul] from his bands, and commanded the chief priests and all their council to appear, and brought Paul down, and set him before them.


You see, even Paul stood on his legal rights as a Roman citizen for a fair hearing.

The "content" part comes about in Paul's accepting his verdict. He used his rights to obtain the hearing, and then used his strength from Christ to bear the consequences.


I believe this shows that God allows us to stand up for our legal rights as long as we aren't bitter and resentful of the outcome.
 
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