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In america why do you have to pay for batteries ansd medical treatment and things? it is totally free over here
 
Well here is different and we do have different kind of medical insurance. Go figure!!
 
I am sorry, but I have to disagree... You paid the taxes to keep those stuff free. We don't do that in America so we have to buy those.
 
Deafteen90 said:
In america why do you have to pay for batteries ansd medical treatment and things? it is totally free over here
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So you can work your entire life to buy your house free and clear and be totally out of debt and save a few thousand for your future --

-- And have above average insurance you think is protecting you --

-- Then the doctor screws up your wife's medications, such as give her dangerous drugs and not take her off of them when they should --

-- And by the time she finally dies you can be $300,000 or $400,000 in debt and have people calling you up all day and all night telling you what a lousy no good bum you for not paying your bills --

At least that is what happened to me.
 
you also have the NHS and from what i understand, must wait a long time to see a doctor. i know some people in the uk who are diagnosed as bipolar who must wait several months to see a psychiatrist even though they are currently experiencing a manic or depressed episode and/or need immediate med adjustments. if i had to choose, i'd rather pay for my health insurance/medical services so that i can see a doctor promptly.
 
Berry said:
So you can work your entire life to buy your house free and clear and be totally out of debt and save a few thousand for your future --

-- And have above average insurance you think is protecting you --

-- Then the doctor screws up your wife's medications, such as give her dangerous drugs and not take her off of them when they should --

-- And by the time she finally dies you can be $300,000 or $400,000 in debt and have people calling you up all day and all night telling you what a lousy no good bum you for not paying your bills --

At least that is what happened to me.
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Why not sue for malpractice?
 
Berry said:
So you can work your entire life to buy your house free and clear and be totally out of debt and save a few thousand for your future --

-- And have above average insurance you think is protecting you --

-- Then the doctor screws up your wife's medications, such as give her dangerous drugs and not take her off of them when they should --

-- And by the time she finally dies you can be $300,000 or $400,000 in debt and have people calling you up all day and all night telling you what a lousy no good bum you for not paying your bills --

At least that is what happened to me.
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Yea, that's what I brought up in another thread when someone said we are all responsible for ourselves to save money and to plan for any emergency events. Sometimes, even doing everything right, we still get screwed over and apparently that is what happened to you. I am sorry that you have to go thru that. I personally know a few others who are on the same boat as you are.
 
Berry said:
So you can work your entire life to buy your house free and clear and be totally out of debt and save a few thousand for your future --

-- And have above average insurance you think is protecting you --

-- Then the doctor screws up your wife's medications, such as give her dangerous drugs and not take her off of them when they should --

-- And by the time she finally dies you can be $300,000 or $400,000 in debt and have people calling you up all day and all night telling you what a lousy no good bum you for not paying your bills --

At least that is what happened to me.
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I'm sorry for bringing up bad memories for you

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Byrdie714 said:
Why not sue for malpractice?
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1. You have to prove malpractice. Not easy. Most practicing doctors will not testify against another doctor because if they do insurance companies will not cover them -- Then they will no longer be able to practice medicine. The only field left open to them will be testifying in malpractice suits.

2. When you do sue you have to sue the doctors and the hospitals that saved her life as well as the doctor whose behavior caused the problem. If you don't the doctor you are suing will attempt to prove it is the fault of the doctors you are not suing. This has proven such a successful defense so often lawyers will not take a case unless everyone involved is sued.

3. Lawyers who handle these kinds of cases, who are able to find doctors who will testify, etc., only want high profile, big money, cases. We were told we had an excellent case but nothing was left inside of her, she was not in a coma, or dead. We were told bluntly that we would be on the level of a charity case: The lawyers had cases on the docket that would earn the lawyers more in fees than the paltry few hundred thousand we could receive in toto. Please come back when she was in a coma or dead.

4. You only have one year to sue from the date you knew or should have known that you have a viable case. Not one of the lawyers we talked to would open the case because they did not want to be stuck with it: Once a case is opened you have seven years to pursue it. If you do it correctly this gives you almost eight years. Not one of the lawyers we spoke to suggested it would be in our best interest to open it in pro per. By the time we found out it was too late.

5. Even had we done everything correctly by the time she finally past away the eight years would have been over and we still would not have been able to sue.
 
Berry said:
1. You have to prove malpractice. Not easy. Most practicing doctors will not testify against another doctor because if they do insurance companies will not cover them -- Then they will no longer be able to practice medicine. The only field left open to them will be testifying in malpractice suits.

2. When you do sue you have to sue the doctors and the hospitals that saved her life as well as the doctor whose behavior caused the problem. If you don't the doctor you are suing will attempt to prove it is the fault of the doctors you are not suing. This has proven such a successful defense so often lawyers will not take a case unless everyone involved is sued.

3. Lawyers who handle these kinds of cases, who are able to find doctors who will testify, etc., only want high profile, big money, cases. We were told we had an excellent case but nothing was left inside of her, she was not in a coma, or dead. We were told bluntly that we would be on the level of a charity case: The lawyers had cases on the docket that would earn the lawyers more in fees than the paltry few hundred thousand we could receive in toto. Please come back when she was in a coma or dead.

4. You only have one year to sue from the date you knew or should have known that you have a viable case. Not one of the lawyers we talked to would open the case because they did not want to be stuck with it: Once a case is opened you have seven years to pursue it. If you do it correctly this gives you almost eight years. Not one of the lawyers we spoke to suggested it would be in our best interest to open it in pro per. By the time we found out it was too late.

5. Even had we done everything correctly by the time she finally past away the eight years would have been over and we still would not have been able to sue.
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whoa.... although I am very sorry to hear about your heart-wrenching trouble... I thank you for sharing this piece of information. This is a very good information that sheds the light for us on how malpractice lawsuit actually works.
 
Deafteen90 said:
In america why do you have to pay for batteries ansd medical treatment and things? it is totally free over here
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but.... isn't your tax rate very high? and plus... look at the cost of your gas! :-o
 
Jiro said:
whoa.... although I am very sorry to hear about your heart-wrenching trouble... I thank you for sharing this piece of information. This is a very good information that sheds the light for us on how malpractice lawsuit actually works.
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Mine is not the worst case scenario. After she past away I wound up owing $120,000 on a $90,000 house we once owned free and clear, but I still have the house. Bankruptcy dropped $250,000 in medical and related costs.

I know of a man who lost his house, his car, almost his job, and his own health began to suffer as well. He had several suits going but they never seemed to pan out for him.




Jiro said:
but.... isn't your tax rate very high? and plus... look at the cost of your gas! :-o
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I personally am not for "free" medical treatment.

I do believe people who have worked all their lives should have decent medical coverage. The medical coverage I have today is much worse than the coverage I had when she was sick. With the much higher copays required now I would have lost the house.

I do not believe a person should have to lose everything they have saved, earned, or inherited, before they can receive help with a medical emergency. There should be a time when someone steps in and says, "This is unconscionable. It is bad enough to lose the person you love, you should not have to deal with losing everything else as well."
 
Berry said:
I personally am not for "free" medical treatment.

I do believe people who have worked all their lives should have decent medical coverage. The medical coverage I have today is much worse than the coverage I had when she was sick. With the much higher copays required now I would have lost the house.

I do not believe a person should not have to lose everything they have saved, earned, or inherited, before they can receive help with a medical emergency. There should be a time when someone steps in and says, "This is unconscionable. It is bad enough to lose the person you love, you should not have to deal with losing everything else as well."
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:werd: let's hope Obama Administration will fix this mess because it doesn't make sense anymore.
 
Deafteen90 said:
In america why do you have to pay for batteries ansd medical treatment and things? it is totally free over here
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Right. And how long is the average wait in the emergency room? How many citizens over there have a family physician?

I'd rather pay for my insurance and medical services than to experience the terrible medical service in Canada or England.
 
David said:
Right. And how long is the average wait in the emergency room? How many citizens over there have a family physician?

I'd rather pay for my insurance and medical services than to experience the terrible medical service in Canada or England.
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Having seen people die and / or become addicts due to what I consider sloppy medical practice makes it difficult for me to believe our system deserves applause.

One person I know was given xanax. When they became addicted to it the doctor had a sure-fire cure: OxyCotin.
 
Berry said:
Mine is not the worst case scenario. After she past away I wound up owing $120,000 on a $90,000 house we once owned free and clear, but I still have the house. Bankruptcy dropped $250,000 in medical and related costs.

I know of a man who lost his house, his car, almost his job, and his own health began to suffer as well. He had several suits going but they never seemed to pan out for him.







I personally am not for "free" medical treatment.

I do believe people who have worked all their lives should have decent medical coverage. The medical coverage I have today is much worse than the coverage I had when she was sick. With the much higher copays required now I would have lost the house.

I do not believe a person should have to lose everything they have saved, earned, or inherited, before they can receive help with a medical emergency. There should be a time when someone steps in and says, "This is unconscionable. It is bad enough to lose the person you love, you should not have to deal with losing everything else as well."[/QUOTE]


U dont know how much I really really agree with you on that one!
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Deafteen, all the other expenses are very expensive in UK including gas. My friend bought a tiny soda pop drink for like $2 in London while you can get bigger one cheaper here. It doesn't mean that UK is better than the United States, all countries have their pros and cons.
 
Berry said:
Having seen people die and / or become addicts due to what I consider sloppy medical practice makes it difficult for me to believe our system deserves applause.

One person I know was given xanax. When they became addicted to it the doctor had a sure-fire cure: OxyCotin.
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Berry, I never said our system deserves applause.
 
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