When politics is a topic of conversation, Everyone can get so heated? Why?

[Jolie77]

Well, we arent at the dinner table when we are on AD, arent we?

No, Unless we're sitting behind the computer and eating something!

 

[IndieVisible]

Why do you think, when politics is a topic of a conversation, Everyone can get so heated?

The title of the thread says it all.

The more I think about it, It is how politics is almost like a borderline religion with a lot of us.

Discuss.

Note: Please do not engage into any flame war or anything such of that nature.

Thank You.

Politics and Religion.

try seperating them and watch the fireworks!

 

[Hwy99]

You know how my mom came to that conclusion? Growing up with her dad yelling and arguing about those 3 subjects at the dinner table causing dinnertime to be stressful several times.

Ekk now that's not pretty.. Glad that someone like your mom is there to speak out

 

[shel90]

Ekk now that's not pretty.. Glad that someone like your mom is there to speak out

It wasnt horrible or anything..just my Grandpa is a strong Republican and very passionate about politics even getting to the point where he doesnt know when to stop.

 

[Boult]

You're right, It depends on which topic is related to the politics. However, I must say, There are a lot of broadband topics in politics that are heated because it does apply to all walks of life that are presented to us in one way or another. So, My question is - As heated as it gets when each person clash their opinions on whatever topic it is, Why would it get heated when it also can get so far?

broadband?

 

[Daredevel7]

I can say one thing for sure: I rarely see heated debates about healthcare or taxes. Strong disagreements yes, but definitely not as bad as topics that somehow involves religion (abortion), gaining/losing rights (gay marriage/gun control), or mudslinging (Obama with terrorists, Palin being stupid).

 

[Hwy99]

It wasnt horrible or anything..just my Grandpa is a strong Republican and very passionate about politics even getting to the point where he doesnt know when to stop.

Oh gotcha, my grandpa does the same thing, but also most of my families members too. We have no conclusion, we just kept debating in the heat till we became silent. Sometimes it's fun to watch the drama

 

[dead money]

It wasnt horrible or anything..just my Grandpa is a strong Republican and very passionate about politics even getting to the point where he doesnt know when to stop.

I'm glad you brought that up. Your grandfather of course isnt alone. He's probaly more common with his feelings with the word "politics" than most people realize. People say the world is their oyster, the earth is a better place with your positive contributions. And that is in fact true, yet you and I both know that alone you cannot do it, it takes your feelings and your influence on others whether its your own goals or a shared ideology for a positive contribution to really take place (in your own eyes anyway) Now the outlet for total worldwide influence resides in government; city, state, or federal. You vote for the candidates you feel best serves your interests, locally and domestically. When that canidate loses, the winner...he/she might make things a little difficult and bitter for you which kind of carries over into everyday life and brings out reactions in people for better or worse. The guy/gal you voted for who wins just gives you that sense of reason that everything is gonna be all right for a while becaise HE/SHE believes in what YOU believe in and everythings supposed to be hunky-dory. Naturally you get fooled every once in a while, and you feel snakebit. Taxes get raised, new car restrictions come into play, gun rights get stricter, health insurance gets weirder and more complicated. Those are just a few of a thousand different agendas that these people take on--but they affect people everday, all day so its kind of easy why people take on this "passion" and make it a priority to emphasize in what they believe in and back it up with emotion when it comes to groups of people here to discuss one word: Politics.

Im not lecturing you shel, just stealing your grandfathers feelings as an example here.

that was the "long answer" from my previous post too btw lol

 

[XBGMER]

Jolie77, You need more time to study this major forum and it will tell you know why they turn into heat & discussion.

It depends on which topic is related to the politics. However I dislike someone whoever bring God or religions into politican stuffs which isnt related topics. it would cause more clash, problems and fingerpoints eachothers, because of that.. You make sure stay God or religions out of politican forums..

 

[Byrdie714]

You're right, It depends on which topic is related to the politics. However, I must say, There are a lot of broadband topics in politics that are heated because it does apply to all walks of life that are presented to us in one way or another. So, My question is - As heated as it gets when each person clash their opinions on whatever topic it is, Why would it get heated when it also can get so far?

Probably due to educating those that aren't familiar with the topic at hand and that is why it gets heated at times.

Secondly for those with differing opinions, when they are presented with the facts and statistics--they can't accept it as it doesn't fit in their realm of what it's suppose to be--whatever their belief is.

Thirdly--it does seem to get heated--depending on the topic-- but the one thing I noticed that those with the opposing view do come around and become an ally in one's belief. When that is accomplished--you have come far. If not--you educate, educate, educate individuals/forums until people realize the errors in their thinking and our society.

Does that help?

 

[web730]

It's just why I try to avoid politics and other ultra-sensitive topics as much I can although I share few bits whenever nec.

Also that it often ends up baseless, anyway... why? Because we aren't the ones who have the authority to change the laws, votes, etc on whenever issues brought up here, anyway... but everyone could freely on what they believe in. uh lol

 

[Byrdie714]

It's just why I try to avoid politics and other ultra-sensitive topics as much I can although I share few bits whenever nec.

Also that it often ends up baseless, anyway... why? Because we aren't the ones who have the authority to change the laws, votes, etc on whenever issues brought up here, anyway... but everyone could freely on what they believe in. uh lol

You never know.

Several politicans have said they liked to cruise forums to see what people are saying.....

 

[Maria]

Thanks for expressing your feelings about this, Maria.

To clear this up, I am not specifically talking about how members in AllDeaf are like this. I am talking about Why, What, When, Where and Who gets the gist of every political conversation that can result into some such pettiness and ugliness? Is it because the representation of the meaning itself is what people value the most; thus why the result of the clashes?

I believe it started with Palin before it became too much heat that ADers don't know how to walk out of the kitchen. No one can find an igloo to sit inside and get their heads cool off - to give it a break. They just kept goin' at it until it gets to the point of clashings. Me and a few others kept tellin' to some ADers to let Palin go and forget it since she is no longer in campaign. They still talked about Palin ever since. That's what caussed all these pettiness and ugliness all over this Forum. I mean, in Politics Forum.

By the way, Political Conversations has always been heated way before Obama was chosen to be our presidents. It always has and it always will continue to be like this for many years to come. It will continue to be heated for the next presidents, so and on.

Yes, and I am also hopin' that they will learn to let a person or 2 go after the campaign is over. Let's just focus on a new president and discuss what she/or he can bring to this country. The new president is the one who will change people's lives, not the one who don't win the campaign.

 

[Pinky]

Everyone have a bad politics. It's Democratic and Republican between. There is a lot issues around the world. Is anyone know how to problem the solve or not help?? There have an agree/disagree each other. It's nothing news! 2008 is the worst than before ever I have seen.

 

[Pinky]

Thanks for expressing your feelings about this, Maria.

To clear this up, I am not specifically talking about how members in AllDeaf are like this. I am talking about Why, What, When, Where and Who gets the gist of every political conversation that can result into some such pettiness and ugliness? Is it because the representation of the meaning itself is what people value the most; thus why the result of the clashes?

By the way, Political Conversations has always been heated way before Obama was chosen to be our presidents. It always has and it always will continue to be like this for many years to come. It will continue to be heated for the next presidents, so and on.

That's good point.

 

[Hear Again]

I love to engage in political discussions because I find them to be so interesting. I'm also a "political junkie" and history buff, so that has alot to do with it as well.

 

[Hear Again]

Why do you think, when politics is a topic of a conversation, Everyone can get so heated?

The title of the thread says it all.

The more I think about it, It is how politics is almost like a borderline religion with a lot of us.

Discuss.

Note: Please do not engage into any flame war or anything such of that nature.

Thank You.

I think alot of it has to do with the fact that people have different opinions on various issues that affect them personally and therefore it's difficult to look at the other side without being biased. Some people feel so strongly for their candidate/political party that it's difficult for them to look at the other side objectively. I try to be as objective as I can, but I have a liberal bias on some issues that I can't change.

 

[Rio]

Jolie,

I appreciate that you brought this issue up. I can see the heat in some threads myself after Obama was elected.

I, myself don't understand why some of ADers don't show their respect when some ADers show their share of articles or news online they pasted in their posts -- they criticize and make fun of or tell others that they are paranoid or what ever. I would like to know why is that ? Isn't this AD supposed to be for everyone who participated in this AD to be part of a " family " in deaf community ? Aren't we seein' an equal in despite of our differences due to our point of views, opinions, and such ?

I would like to see some ADers to discuss the issues instead of finger pointin' to some ADers and say that they are uninformed without sharin' articles with links. Why can't they just let others to READ and LEARN from the articles or news online with links ? If, they say somethin' about articles or news online that they disagree - then, that would be fine with me. It's better than sayin' somethin' about this person ( ADer ) that he/or she don't know nothin' or say that he/or she isn't that smart ( dumb ) - like one of the ADers called me a " dumb " in another thread. Gee -- that was uncalled for.

I would love to share some articles with them and have them to tell me what they think of the articles or news online that I brought up with some links.

Thanks for creatin' this thread, Jolie!

I agree , sharing artlicles on line with news about a certain topic relating to politics. Its just that most people want to press their views on you as I have learned in real life experience. I have debated people who just want to hear what they want to hear and not even bother with my view. It takes a lot of patience and understanding to discuss certain matters about politics. With the election and certain propositions in my state got into heated discussions with my own family members. I had to stand level headed and balance out what I am going to deliver. Yes, it can happen anywhere discussing politics maybe some people just want to be right all the time and their agenda is better than yours type of thing.

 

[Hear Again]

I can say one thing for sure: I rarely see heated debates about healthcare or taxes. Strong disagreements yes, but definitely not as bad as topics that somehow involves religion (abortion), gaining/losing rights (gay marriage/gun control), or mudslinging (Obama with terrorists, Palin being stupid).

This is exactly the reason why I don't participate in discussions about religion or abortion. Both topics are too "emotionally charged" (which make it difficult for me to be objective), so I stay out of them completely to avoid getting myself worked up.

 

[Pinky]

Jolie

I am trying to be manner with my thread. I thought the mature members would respect my thread. I don't appreciate with AD members started to hijack on my thread. I felt it's disrespectful.

The liberal and conservative people wouldn't stop talk about religions over Abortion, gay marriage, and other issues.

I think God can't do anything with election. Just follow the heart. Why is the evil started to hijack on members' threads?

Yes, Political is part of religions. I think it would be same as Religions Forum.

Thank you for bring up the thread to discuss how to do problem the solve.