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jazzy said:
I felt same when our country was control by conservatives for last 8 years. Deal with us as I deal with you and others.
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How did you "deal" with it?
 
netrox said:
First, the military count won't make a difference at all. Obama has plenty of cushion in electoral votes. Thousand of absentee votes won't make a difference at all anymore. (also, I read that 44% of military voted for Obama - thus making it even more difficult) Nate Silver, a statistical analyst, noted:

"In other words, if you had subtracted 9.3 points from Barack Obama's margin in every state, he would still have tied the Electoral College -- even while losing the popular vote by almost 3 points."

FiveThirtyEight.com: Electoral Projections Done Right: Obama's Electoral Cushion

(that site is ranked the MOST accurate in predicting the votes)

Second, liberals are taking your country? Which country do you live? It's OUR country and WE voted for Obama! America voted for change!
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Amen! :D
 
Reba said:
I'm not a member of the GOP.

I'm more concerned about the thousands of military members who didn't get their absentee ballots counted.

I'm more concerned about the liberals taking over my country while the number of real conservatives dwindle. It's a real shame.
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Well, Bush has run this country into the ground. Now, that, is a REAL SHAME.
 
netrox said:
First, the military count won't make a difference at all. Obama has plenty of cushion in electoral votes. Thousand of absentee votes won't make a difference at all anymore. (also, I read that 44% of military voted for Obama - thus making it even more difficult) Nate Silver, a statistical analyst, noted:

"In other words, if you had subtracted 9.3 points from Barack Obama's margin in every state, he would still have tied the Electoral College -- even while losing the popular vote by almost 3 points."

FiveThirtyEight.com: Electoral Projections Done Right: Obama's Electoral Cushion

(that site is ranked the MOST accurate in predicting the votes)

Second, liberals are taking your country? Which country do you live? It's OUR country and WE voted for Obama! America voted for change!
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:gpost:
 
How would you feel if someone posted that the Deaf vote didn't matter, and if they weren't allowed to vote, so what?
 
Reba said:
Excuse me? The people who are suffering and sacrificing should count the most. It's unconscionable that they shouldn't be allowed to vote. It doesn't matter what percentage vote for which candidate--the important thing is that they have the right to participate.
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You are TOTALLY way off base. Never did I say they should not vote. I believe that they're entitled the right to vote but you complained that they're not counting absentee votes from military as if their vote is gonna change the election outcome. I pointed that even if military submits all its votes, it will NOT change the electoral outcome. Obama has plenty of electoral cushion.

You twisted what I said. :slap:
 
PuyoPiyo said:
Jessie, the governments are not trying to take the religions away, but tried their best to be neutral from the religion. The Christianity religion is not only one that was target, actually all of the religions that the governments are mention to.

I was not referred to Christianity alone, I was to general religions. If they do their jobs better, then why they ban some religious stuff and bitch about it?

Like if you have your bible at your home right? They will never take that away from you, but they can take it away if you harrass others in the public with the bible. I remember when I was on the city bus, one old man tried to talk to me with the bible, the bus driver told that man that he had to leave the bus, it's not because of the bible, it's because that man was harrassing me with the bible. Get it?

That's good when that jerk got out! I'm sorry that he did to you. But, they complained about religious holiday? Bashing religions/religious people is okay? Banning those religious things? To me, it's too much. Like you said, a person can tell another person to be respect or get out. NOT take it personal over those.

The governments just want to make sure that everyone was resepcted.
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Not really. :/ The time is changed each minute and you know how it is.

netrox said:
No, that's not gonna happen. We already have religious freedom and Obama has said "God Bless America!" many times.

Well, that's nice of him to say... but religion of freedom? ...Not really.

The conservative Supreme Court banned prayer and affirmed that ban even under the Bush administration.
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Actually, I was referred to states alone and I don't buy it what you said...
 
netrox said:
You are TOTALLY way off base. Never did I say they should not vote. I believe that they're entitled the right to vote but you complained that they're not counting absentee votes from military as if their vote is gonna change the election outcome. I pointed that even if military submits all its votes, it will NOT change the electoral outcome. Obama has plenty of electoral cushion.

You twisted what I said. :slap:
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Reba isn't being logical. :roll:
 
I was not referred to Christianity alone, I was to general religions. If they do their jobs better, then why they ban some religious stuff and bitch about it?
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How would you feel if you are an Christian and holding the coins with the Satanism religion words on it all the times?

Maybe it's time to wake up a little by using the word "God" in the government system.

That's good when that jerk got out! I'm sorry that he did to you. But, they complained about religious holiday? Bashing religions/religious people is okay? Banning those religious things? To me, it's too much. Like you said, a person can tell another person to be respect or get out. NOT take it personal over those.
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I have no problem if people celebrate those holidays, but I do if they force us to celebrate without any choices, like if there's Satanism children in an elementary and the teacher happened celebrate the Christmas, how would the parents felt about their children being forced to celebrate for other different religions?

Not really. :/ The time is changed each minute and you know how it is.
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Well sorry to be blunt, but I just don't see any right way for the governments to use the word of "God", not at all.
 
PuyoPiyo said:
How would you feel if you are an Christian and holding the coins with the Satanism religion words on it all the times?

Maybe it's time to wake up a little by using the word "God" in the government system.

No, a "God" word is a general religion. That's it.

I have no problem if people celebrate those holidays, but I do if they force us to celebrate without any choices, like if there's Satanism children in an elementary and the teacher happened celebrate the Christmas, how would the parents felt about their children being forced to celebrate for other different religions?

There you go! That was HOW I felt. I hate the war on Christmas... Not just about this one - I also am so disappointed with banned general religious stuff and others as well. Don't you see?

Well sorry to be blunt, but I just don't see any right way for the governments to use the word of "God", not at all.
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Oh, yes, it is. What about fifty years later? Yes, I'm sure it will. And, I don't know how to "combat" with you since I was referred to change of time, not in the goverment of system.
 
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Hear Again said:
Seems like Reba isn't even willing to give Obama a chance. If you ask me, that's sad too.
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Give him a chance to do what? Increase taxes and restrictions on the 2nd Amendment, redistribute the wealth, or put more liberal judges on the Supreme Court?
 
No, a "God" word is a general religion. That's it.
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Not all of the religions that have the God.

There you go! That was HOW I felt. I hate the war on Christmas... Not just about this one - I also am so disappointed with banned general religious stuff and others as well. Don't you see?
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But are we allowed to meditate like Buddha in the classrooms? Are we allow to knee down and praying to Allah like the middle east religions? Did we ever done anything that relate to the religions like the Christians do?

Pretty hyprocisty uh?

Oh, yes, it is. What about fifty years later? Yes, I'm sure it will.
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How is that a yes, and what will?
 
netrox said:
You are TOTALLY way off base. Never did I say they should not vote. I believe that they're entitled the right to vote but you complained that they're not counting absentee votes from military as if their vote is gonna change the election outcome. I pointed that even if military submits all its votes, it will NOT change the electoral outcome. Obama has plenty of electoral cushion.

You twisted what I said. :slap:
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No, I didn't. Who gave you the authority to say whose vote "counts" and whose doesn't?

Also, don't forget that those ballots also included votes for Congressmen, state, and local offices. The military members were kicked out of those choices, too.
 
PuyoPiyo said:
How would you feel if you are an Christian and holding the coins with the Satanism religion words on it all the times?

Maybe it's time to wake up a little by using the word "God" in the government system.
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but your hypothetical question is moot because Satan is "God" in a way. If you want to worship Satan, you are free to do so... and Satan is your "God" so "In God We Trust" can apply in your case.

I'm wondering why are you specifically targeting Christianity as seen in your previous posts? Mind you - Christianity is not a national religion as chosen by American government.

PuyoPiyo said:
I have no problem if people celebrate those holidays, but I do if they force us to celebrate without any choices, like if there's Satanism children in an elementary and the teacher happened celebrate the Christmas, how would the parents felt about their children being forced to celebrate for other different religions?
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your concern is fallacious since public schools nor government do not force people to celebrate those. Just because you had that bad experience at school does not mean there is a government policy that mandates the enforcement of observance of religion/holiday.
 
PuyoPiyo said:
Not all of the religions that have the God.

Er? I never said all of them. I simply said general gods/religions, therefore I didn't say all of them.

But are we allowed to meditate like Buddha in the classrooms? Are we allow to knee down and praying to Allah like the middle east religions? Did we ever done anything that relate to the religions like the Christians do?

Pretty hyprocisty uh?

Sighs. It's just so great. *shakes head* Hell, you don't get it. :/

How is that a yes, and what will?
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Simple answer: Respect for those people and manage some ways in any article, rather than bannin'/naggin' on theirs. Another simple answer: Time.
 
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