health care passed - Page 6

posts from hell · 03-22-2010, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by jillio

So....you are basing your predictions of doom and gloom based on a mere "some"?

I dont see him predicting doom and gloom? Show me please.

**sequoias** · 03-22-2010, 12:40 AM

If I'm forced to be on their healthcare....is it really expensive to pay? What if someone can't afford it at all?

Steinhauer · 03-22-2010, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by jillio

The Republicans don't have a health reform plan. Their plan is to remain with the status quo, giving all of the power to the insurance companies.

Please define exactly how this health care reform is connected to socialism or to communism. If you are going to throw around those too oft misused buzz words, it should be a simple matter for you to explain the connection.

That has been the liberal spin - does anyone know what the Republican Health Plan really is?

It does not benefit doctors, it does not benefit psychiatrists, it does not benefit health insurance companies. It benefits the people.

Obamacare does the exact opposite.

**TXgolfer** · 03-22-2010, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by jillio

The Republicans don't have a health reform plan. Their plan is to remain with the status quo, giving all of the power to the insurance companies.
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Not true.....the presented one at the summit

**KarissaMann05** · 03-22-2010, 12:41 AM

OK... I'm completely lost.

Steinhauer · 03-22-2010, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by jillio

Oh, yeah...that's gonna happen.

famous last words.

jillio · 03-22-2010, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TXgolfer

2 different thoughts.....My"it's possible" was in support of what steinhauser said of his employer.

My "doom and gloom" is based on knowledge of how things work.....The system will fail. I had the guts to make my predictions.....now it's wait and see.

Could you detail the "how things work" thing and exactly how it applies to health care reform?

**TXgolfer** · 03-22-2010, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by KarissaMann05

OK... I'm completely lost.

Then you should be President

jillio · 03-22-2010, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

famous last words.

Again, "Oh, yeah...that's gonna happen!"

**sequoias** · 03-22-2010, 12:43 AM

Hey anyone please answer my question?

jillio · 03-22-2010, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by KarissaMann05

OK... I'm completely lost.

That is because too much nonsense is being inserted into the discussion. Don't let it bother you.

**KarissaMann05** · 03-22-2010, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by TXgolfer

Then you should be President

Very funny.

Steinhauer · 03-22-2010, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by jillio

Again, "Oh, yeah...that's gonna happen!"

It actually did. More than once.

jillio · 03-22-2010, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by sequoias

Hey anyone please answer my question?

What was your question?

**TXgolfer** · 03-22-2010, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by jillio

Could you detail the "how things work" thing and exactly how it applies to health care reform?

I have already......you have my bottom line predictions now.

jillio · 03-22-2010, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

It actually did. More than once.

And to think...100,000 comedians out of work....

**KarissaMann05** · 03-22-2010, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by jillio

That is because too much nonsense is being inserted into the discussion. Don't let it bother you.

Eheh, thanks for the concern.

So, can you answer my questions in my previous post?

Steinhauer · 03-22-2010, 12:45 AM

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jillio · 03-22-2010, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by TXgolfer

I have already......you have my bottom line predictions now.

No, you haven't detailed the "how things work" and connected it to health care reform at all.

**sequoias** · 03-22-2010, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by jillio

What was your question?

health care passed

jillio · 03-22-2010, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by KarissaMann05

Eheh, thanks for the concern.

So, can you answer my questions in my previous post?

I'll try. Would you mind repeating the question?

Steinhauer · 03-22-2010, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by jillio

And to think...100,000 comedians out of work....

I am so sorry you thought the American Revolution was a comedy ... what was all the fuss about back then anyways?

Oh yeah ... being taxed to death.

**KarissaMann05** · 03-22-2010, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by jillio

I'll try. Would you mind repeating the question?

See #126 post.

jillio · 03-22-2010, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by sequoias

health care passed

It is less expensive that private coverage is now. And if you can't afford it at all, you will qualify for Medicaid. You will be covered one way or the other.

**sequoias** · 03-22-2010, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jillio

It is less expensive that private coverage is now. And if you can't afford it at all, you will qualify for Medicaid. You will be covered one way or the other.

I see...that doesn't sound too bad at all.

**TXgolfer** · 03-22-2010, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by jillio

No, you haven't detailed the "how things work" and connected it to health care reform at all.

I have for 2 days in other threads....Feel free to give your predictions. I gave simple questions and I answered them.

Steinhauer · 03-22-2010, 12:49 AM

here's another quote for ya!

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If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.

Samuel Adams

**Foxrac** · 03-22-2010, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

Republicans and Democrats BOTH have recognized health insurance abuses. That is NOT the debate. Everyone knows that health insurance companies scam and profit people.

The issue is government control of individual liberty. Do you even know what the Republican's health Reform plan is?

Obamacare is socialism/communism. It is anti American. There WILL be a revolution over this.

Not really, the health care bill that created by democrat isn't socialist or communism, even no public options either but just more like government regulation on health care.

You would say so like that in other countries as well.

Republicans don't have any health care reform during GWB Admin, Jan 2003 until Jan 2007, except for modernization of Medicare.

jillio · 03-22-2010, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by KarissaMann05

OKKKK.... Let me clear.

Jillio, are you saying if a person really needs a doctor for his or her health reason, then he/she will need to get a healthcare. If a person don't want a healthcare, yet wants a doctor, then a person can't have her or his healthcare. That would be BIG too bad for him or her. Right?

OK, *IF* he/she have a healthcare so he/she can go to see his/her doctor for his/her health reaons. So, if he/she don't pay a tax, he/she'll go to jail. Even if he/she change his/her mind that he/she don't want a healthcare or to pay a tax for the healthcare anymore, then he/she still will go to jail. Right?

I just want to understand so clear. ><;; I feel a little overwhelmed here.....

No. Everyone will be covered by health care insurance. If someone doesn't want health care, they just don't have to go to the doctor.

I see where the confusion is coming in. Some posters were using the term "health care" when what they really meant was "insurance." Health care is what a doctor provides. Insurance is what helps to defray the cost of the health care.

kokonut · 03-22-2010, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by TXgolfer

I have for 2 days in other threads....Feel free to give your predictions. I gave simple questions and I answered them.

And you did very well on that, Txgolfer, by answering them. You did what people expected, unlike some.

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sequoias Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Iowa, the land of the cornfields and pigs Posts: 21,866	If I'm forced to be on their healthcare....is it really expensive to pay? What if someone can't afford it at all?

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sequoias Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Iowa, the land of the cornfields and pigs Posts: 21,866	Hey anyone please answer my question?