health care passed - Page 3

**Foxrac** · 03-21-2010, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

It is required to have health insurance with some exceptions for particular groups. That still doesn't mandate you to receive health care.

Yup, some other countries does require citizens to have insurance like Japan and Germany are two of them so of course, they do have exemption as well.

Steinhauer · 03-21-2010, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Foxrac

Yup, some other countries does require citizens to have insurance like Japan and Germany are two of them so of course, they do have exemption as well.

Do they get the same insurance that their elected representatives have?

ummmmm. . . no.

jillio · 03-21-2010, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

No ... but now thatpeople are (wink) required to have health insurance, you get (wink) assurance you get paid (wink, wink).

Nope. Not at all. You might want to check stipulations.

As I said, it doesn't affect my practice one way or the other.

posts from hell · 03-21-2010, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

Nope. Not at all. You might want to check stipulations.

As I said, it doesn't affect my practice one way or the other.

Id have to agree with mr stein here.

PowerON · 03-21-2010, 11:46 PM

What? I still keep my health insurance from my work and I pay more on tax? That mean, I'm (holy-beep) broke.

jillio · 03-21-2010, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by PowerON

What? I still keep my health insurance from my work and I pay more on tax? That mean, I'm (holy-beep) broke.

No, PowerOn. That isn't what it means at all.

**TXgolfer** · 03-21-2010, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

No ... but now thatpeople are (wink) required to have health insurance, you get (wink) assurance you get paid (wink, wink).

Yep and in this economy depression is likely to be the new gold rush

Frankly I prefer this gold rush

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Steinhauer · 03-21-2010, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TXgolfer

Yep and in this economy depression is likely to be the new gold rush

Frankly I prefer this gold rush

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ummm ... yeah .. I like ..er ... that gold rush too!

jillio · 03-21-2010, 11:50 PM

Exactly what is being implied? Come on boys, spit it out.

Again, you quite obviously know little to nothing about insurance reimbursement for mental health care.

**TXgolfer** · 03-21-2010, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

No, PowerOn. That isn't what it means at all.

Actually that's exactly what it means.....PowerOn gets to keep his insurance....but his Taxes will most certainly go up

Steinhauer · 03-21-2010, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

Exactly what is being implied? Come on boys, spit it out.

Again, you quite obviously know little to nothing about insurance reimbursement for mental health care.

This is where she begins a tirade of how uneducated us peasants are ....

jillio · 03-21-2010, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TXgolfer

Actually that's exactly what it means.....PowerOn gets to keep his insurance....but his Taxes will most certainly go up

No, it does not mean that at all. Please cite the exact section of the bill that provides for that.

**Foxrac** · 03-21-2010, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

Do they get the same insurance that their elected representatives have?

ummmmm. . . no.

Both of them have public insurance that offered by government.

jillio · 03-21-2010, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

This is where she begins a tirade of how uneducated us peasants are ....

Spit it out, Steinhauer. No need to beat around the bush. Exactly what are you trying to say?

PowerON · 03-21-2010, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

No, PowerOn. That isn't what it means at all.

oh? That mean, I don't need to have health insurance and fed will bitching at me and get me fine. wtf? I'm confuse between your words and news.

**TXgolfer** · 03-21-2010, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

No, it does not mean that at all. Please cite the exact section of the bill that provides for that.

It has to be paid for somehow.....Are you willing to make a wager on whether taxes will go up for the middle class in the next 2 years? I am.

Glenn · 03-21-2010, 11:56 PM

Health insurance ≠ health care.

posts from hell · 03-21-2010, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

Spit it out, Steinhauer. No need to beat around the bush. Exactly what are you trying to say?

I am sure you can make an EDUCATED assumption.

jillio · 03-21-2010, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by PowerON

oh? That mean, I don't need to have health insurance and fed will bitching at me and get me fine. wtf? I'm confuse between your words and news.

No. You are talking about two different things. Keeping your employer sponsored health insurance and taxes, and madated insurance.

posts from hell · 03-21-2010, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn

Health insurance ≠ health care.

I figured that...

jillio · 03-21-2010, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TXgolfer

It has to be paid for somehow.....Are you willing to make a wager on whether taxes will go up for the middle class in the next 2 years? I am.

In other words, you are just guessing. There is nothing in the bill that states that taxes will go up for those choosing to keep their employer sponsored insurance.

Steinhauer · 03-21-2010, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

No, it does not mean that at all. Please cite the exact section of the bill that provides for that.

It would be the WHOLE dern thing that got crammed down our throats.

You made a comparison to this with ... uh, speeding tickets, parking fines and something else related to "driving".

Is it **required** to have a driver's license?

or is it a **choice**?

Think about that carefully. It is now a requirement to have health insurance if you wish to be a U.S. Citizen.

If you want to breathe air in the U.S. - you must pay for your own health insurance or get fined and/or imprisoned.

Please explain to us all how this will not create class warfare. Please explain how this is not socialism.

jillio · 03-21-2010, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn

Health insurance ≠ health care.

Exactly. It would appear that some equate the two. Perhaps that is why they are so easily provoked.

**TXgolfer** · 03-21-2010, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by PowerON

oh? That mean, I don't need to have health insurance and fed will bitching at me and get me fine. wtf? I'm confuse between your words and news.

If you don't have Ins you will be required to get it now or pay a fine/face jail. If you have it through your job you can keep it.

Taxes will go up either way....in my opinion

netrox · 03-22-2010, 12:00 AM

But where in Texas does it make laws? Austin... right? And Austin is overwhelming a liberal city with strong Democratic voting record. We just like to give conservatives a hard time.

jillio · 03-22-2010, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

It would be the WHOLE dern thing that got crammed down our throats.

You made a comparison to this with ... uh, speeding tickets, parking fines and something else related to "driving".

Is it **required** to have a driver's license?

or is it a **choice**?

Think about that carefully. It is now a requirement to have health insurance if you wish to be a U.S. Citizen.

If you want to breathe air in the U.S. - you must pay for your own health insurance or get fined and/or imprisoned.

Please explain to us all how this will not create class warfare. Please explain how this is not socialism.

Again, cite the section of the bill that provides for increased taxes for those that choose to keep their employer sponsored health insurance.

OMG...what is this country coming to. Expecting people to have personal responsibility. Oh, the horrors of it all!

jillio · 03-22-2010, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by TXgolfer

If you don't have Ins you will be required to get it now or pay a fine/face jail. If you have it through your job you can keep it.

Taxes will go up either way....in my opinion

Yep, an opinion. Not a fact. No need to go into a panic about an opinion.

netrox · 03-22-2010, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by jillio

Again, cite the section of the bill that provides for increased taxes for those that choose to keep their employer sponsored health insurance.

OMG...what is this country coming to. Expecting people to have personal responsibility. Oh, the horrors of it all!

Of course... I mean seriously, they think they're being responsible by not having health insurance.

**TXgolfer** · 03-22-2010, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by jillio

In other words, you are just guessing. There is nothing in the bill that states that taxes will go up for those choosing to keep their employer sponsored insurance.

No, predicting taxes will go up for everyone.... Care to make a prediction?

Steinhauer · 03-22-2010, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by jillio

In other words, you are just guessing. There is nothing in the bill that states that taxes will go up for those choosing to keep their employer sponsored insurance.

Parliamentary Trickery defined:

Nancy's nutty new rules - NYPOST.com

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Hmm. Nowhere in the US Constitution does it say that Congress can deem a bill to have passed. Pelosi & Co. aren't just making up policy as they go, but also procedure -- possibly unconstitutional procedure, at that. All to enact a bill remaking a sixth of the US economy over the 3-1 opposition of the American people.

Read more: Nancy's nutty new rules - NYPOST.com

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03-21-2010, 11:50 PM	#69 (permalink)
jillio Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 60,296	Exactly what is being implied? Come on boys, spit it out. Again, you quite obviously know little to nothing about insurance reimbursement for mental health care.

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Glenn Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Washington Posts: 2,909	Health insurance ≠ health care.

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netrox Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 4,780	But where in Texas does it make laws? Austin... right? And Austin is overwhelming a liberal city with strong Democratic voting record. We just like to give conservatives a hard time.