Do you believe in death penalty

chris' mom · 02-22-2009, 02:25 AM

I ask because I was thinking about things that you are against till it happens to you type of stuff.
I use to be against the death penity till my uncle was horribly murder Thanksgiving night in 2004.

Feel free to list why you picked the answer you did..

let's be nice to other opinions and views.

**KarissaMann05** · 02-22-2009, 02:31 AM

Wow... I'm really sorry about your uncle.

How old he was? If it's personal, I'll understand.

chris' mom · 02-22-2009, 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KarissaMann05

Wow... I'm really sorry about your uncle.

How old he was? If it's personal, I'll understand.

he was in his mid thirties

**KarissaMann05** · 02-22-2009, 02:34 AM

A bit so young to me. =/

Can you tell me why do you support the death penaty? Me curious.

chris' mom · 02-22-2009, 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KarissaMann05

A bit so young to me. =/

Can you tell me why do you support the death penaty? Me curious.

I support it now b/c after sitting in the court room for a week listening and seeing pics of the details behind that horrible night. They were family friends (well we all knew them and my uncle and them where friends) showed up at his house that night thinking he wasn't going to be home, the details are too horrible to go into, but the basicly killed him and then stole his music equipement and left him there. These people at the time was 18 and 19 years old they did it to sale the stuff to get drugs. The will spend the rest of their lives in prision (no chance of getting out in Arkansas) so I believe instead of spending millions of our tax dollars to feed and shelter these people for the next 50 or 60 years put them to rest. It's hard to explain but that's the best I can do

**KarissaMann05** · 02-22-2009, 02:41 AM

It's awful.

At the least, they are in the jail now.

Brian · 02-22-2009, 02:52 AM

Mod's post:

Thread moved to the proper location.

Also corrected title for OP.

chris' mom · 02-22-2009, 03:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian

Mod's post:

Thread moved to the proper location.

Also corrected title for OP.

Thank You!!

JamieLynn · 02-22-2009, 06:02 AM

I usually would say no to death penatly because nobody deserves to be killed for a reason but when you hear/read in the news what some killers do than it is difficult to just let it go and let them live *peacefully* in jail.

Then I could also just scream from the top of my lungs just knowing that he/she (the killer) gets food every day because of the taxed I pay every month due to my job... *sigh*. But that's the way it is.

I can't really explain why or when death penatly should be enforced on somebody. Killing one person? Two? Ten?... No matter what it is difficult and I would never be able to sentence somebody to death even though I inwardly might have this feeling of wanting them dead more than anything else in the world. I wouldn't stand having somebody's life on my mind.

Death penality only exists because people kill people for no specific reason...

I'm between two stools here...

JL

PS. I'm sorry to read about your uncle

Mockingbird · 02-22-2009, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris' mom

instead of spending millions of our tax dollars to feed and shelter these people for the next 50 or 60 years put them to rest. It's hard to explain but that's the best I can do

Allowing a prisoner to spend life in prison is cheaper than the death penalty.

"Total cost of death penalty is 38% greater than total cost of life without parole sentences. (Indiana Criminal Law Study Commission, January 10, 2002)"

United States Death Penalty FAQs

Religious/ethical grounds aside, I'd prefer that they spend a life in prison to contemplate their actions rather than have it all ended with a shot.

**Bottesini** · 02-22-2009, 09:22 AM

I voted yes. The old code of "a eye for an eye" makes sense to me. If you kill someone, you shouldn't benefit by a life of free food while sitting in prison.

LakeTahoe · 02-22-2009, 09:30 AM

It would be depend on SITUATION. If murder or raper or child molester then yes. Rest will no...

Right now almost all or maybe all prison are full and crowd. And we pay taxes to prison etc. Hard to explain on AD though. But I tried my best. I'll keep read and see if any other member that I may agree with or not.

**Foxrac** · 02-22-2009, 09:34 AM

Yup, only for some reason, such as murder and rape.

Berry · 02-22-2009, 11:56 AM

I voted other. Not because I am against the death penalty for heinous or unconscionable crimes but but because I believe better use could be made of the criminals by society.

What bothers me is that once convicted of a crime such as murder the criminal is only deprived of their freedom of movement. They retain other rights which are inimical to the interests of society as a whole.

Example: Many psychologists, psychiatrists, therapists, behavioral specialists, journalists, wanted access to Charles Manson -- They felt many things could be learned from him that could benefit society and help to prevent similar events in the future. But Manson had the right to pick and choose who he would or would not talk to.

I do not believe the convicted criminal whose crime was monstrous should have that right. I believe a panel should be appointed who would determine who would have the best chance of producing viable results for humanity and giving those people access to question, test, etc. the prisoner and the criminal should have no say in the matter.

In this way we might be better able to understand crime, prevent crime, and catch criminals faster and with greater certainty.

Buffalo · 02-22-2009, 12:45 PM

I support death penalty only in cases that are beyond resonable doubts. I am abit leery of putting someone to death and only to find out that he is innocent all along.

Chris' mom, I am sorry about your uncle.

**Phillips** · 02-22-2009, 12:49 PM

Vote> Only for certain reasons

**Jiro** · 02-22-2009, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mockingbird

Allowing a prisoner to spend life in prison is cheaper than the death penalty.

"Total cost of death penalty is 38% greater than total cost of life without parole sentences. (Indiana Criminal Law Study Commission, January 10, 2002)"

United States Death Penalty FAQs

Religious/ethical grounds aside, I'd prefer that they spend a life in prison to contemplate their actions rather than have it all ended with a shot.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Berry

I voted other. Not because I am against the death penalty for heinous or unconscionable crimes but but because I believe better use could be made of the criminals by society.

What bothers me is that once convicted of a crime such as murder the criminal is only deprived of their freedom of movement. They retain other rights which are inimical to the interests of society as a whole.

Example: Many psychologists, psychiatrists, therapists, behavioral specialists, journalists, wanted access to Charles Manson -- They felt many things could be learned from him that could benefit society and help to prevent similar events in the future. But Manson had the right to pick and choose who he would or would not talk to.

I do not believe the convicted criminal whose crime was monstrous should have that right. I believe a panel should be appointed who would determine who would have the best chance of producing viable results for humanity and giving those people access to question, test, etc. the prisoner and the criminal should have no say in the matter.

In this way we might be better able to understand crime, prevent crime, and catch criminals faster and with greater certainty.

which is precisely why it takes a very long time to execute death penalty prisoners. The government doesn't take it lightly when it comes to executing a life. They had to be ABSOLUTELY sure of it. I do think they need to reduce the waiting period because the longer the death penalty man is sitting in his cell, the longer victim's loved ones must suffer.

This is never an easy subject to talk about.

**Jiro** · 02-22-2009, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris' mom

I ask because I was thinking about things that you are against till it happens to you type of stuff.
I use to be against the death penity till my uncle was horribly murder Thanksgiving night in 2004.

Feel free to list why you picked the answer you did..

let's be nice to other opinions and views.

oh no.... I'm deeply sorry about your experience. I voted yes and many of ADers know my strong stance on it. We've had quite some threads dedicated to death penalty debate and all have ended up being locked.

netrox · 02-22-2009, 01:13 PM

Personally, I'm all for putting murderers to death HOWEVER legally, I am against death penalty. Our justice system is imperfect and unequal. Notice the unusual high rate of black murderers compared to white murderers? There's a huge difference on treatments of ethnic groups. And we have many innocent convicts executed and that's wrong.

Tousi · 02-22-2009, 01:32 PM

Seems to me support for the death penalty would increase in proportion to the great advances in the areas of forensic sciences, reducing the possibility of executing those innocent.

**Maria** · 02-22-2009, 01:52 PM

I support death penalty if, a person takes someone else's life away. That's a murder.

I am sorry to read about your uncle. My condolence go to you and your family.

**Liebling:-)))** · 02-22-2009, 02:14 PM

First of all, I want to say how much I feel for you over the murder of your beloved Uncle. I´m truly sorry...

My opinion over death penalty remind unchanged... See my posts in 2 different threads.

The Death Penalty

Europe Calls on World to Abolish Death Penalty

I do not support death penalty...

My vote is No.

**Foxrac** · 02-22-2009, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

First of all, I want to say how much I feel for you over the murder of your beloved Uncle. I´m truly sorry...

My opinion over death penalty remind unchanged... See my posts in 2 different threads.

The Death Penalty

Europe Calls on World to Abolish Death Penalty

I do not support death penalty...

My vote is No.

That's fine for Germany.

If USA then no and we need keep death penalty.

**deafskeptic** · 02-22-2009, 03:16 PM

I am fort the death penalty in certain cases.

**Beowulf** · 02-22-2009, 03:19 PM

I am against the death penalty for reasons too numerous to mention.

jillio · 02-22-2009, 04:19 PM

I, too, have made by feelings known regarding my opposition to the death penalty, and like Beowulf, my opposition is based on more than one line of reasoning.

dreama · 02-22-2009, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buffalo

I support death penalty only in cases that are beyond resonable doubts. I am abit leery of putting someone to death and only to find out that he is innocent all along.

Chris' mom, I am sorry about your uncle.

That's how I feel too. I've heard cases of people getting death for things they hadn't done. At the same time, it seems criminals are sometimes treated better then their victims who sometimes fall to pieces and end up homeless on the street. It's a difficult situation.

Chris's mom: I'm sorry to hear about your uncle.

Texan Guy · 02-22-2009, 07:17 PM

I'm all for it. What can I say, I'm from Texas.

chris' mom · 02-22-2009, 08:26 PM

I'm sorry guys I guess I should read through all the threads to make sure I didn't repost something..I was just thinking of this last night and thought I would ask

**Jiro** · 02-22-2009, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris' mom

I'm sorry guys I guess I should read through all the threads to make sure I didn't repost something..I was just thinking of this last night and thought I would ask

no worry! it's perfectly fine. you are deeply affected by this and I sympathize.

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02-22-2009, 02:25 AM	#1 (permalink)
chris' mom Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Fayetteville, AR Posts: 975	Do you believe in death penalty I ask because I was thinking about things that you are against till it happens to you type of stuff. I use to be against the death penity till my uncle was horribly murder Thanksgiving night in 2004. Feel free to list why you picked the answer you did.. let's be nice to other opinions and views. __________________ Lori & Sons Children are a gift from the Lord, indeed, they are a blessing.

02-22-2009, 02:31 AM	#2 (permalink)
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02-22-2009, 02:34 AM	#4 (permalink)
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02-22-2009, 02:52 AM	#7 (permalink)
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02-22-2009, 06:02 AM	#9 (permalink)
JamieLynn Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 3,336	I usually would say no to death penatly because nobody deserves to be killed for a reason but when you hear/read in the news what some killers do than it is difficult to just let it go and let them live peacefully in jail. Then I could also just scream from the top of my lungs just knowing that he/she (the killer) gets food every day because of the taxed I pay every month due to my job... sigh. But that's the way it is. I can't really explain why or when death penatly should be enforced on somebody. Killing one person? Two? Ten?... No matter what it is difficult and I would never be able to sentence somebody to death even though I inwardly might have this feeling of wanting them dead more than anything else in the world. I wouldn't stand having somebody's life on my mind. Death penality only exists because people kill people for no specific reason... I'm between two stools here... JL PS. I'm sorry to read about your uncle

02-22-2009, 09:22 AM	#11 (permalink)
Bottesini Joe's Friend Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: With Owl Sock Posts: 37,535 Blog Entries: 1	I voted yes. The old code of "a eye for an eye" makes sense to me. If you kill someone, you shouldn't benefit by a life of free food while sitting in prison. __________________

02-22-2009, 09:30 AM	#12 (permalink)
LakeTahoe Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Lost somewhere in the outer space!! Help me to find my way back home to earth!! Posts: 14,205	It would be depend on SITUATION. If murder or raper or child molester then yes. Rest will no... Right now almost all or maybe all prison are full and crowd. And we pay taxes to prison etc. Hard to explain on AD though. But I tried my best. I'll keep read and see if any other member that I may agree with or not. __________________

02-22-2009, 09:34 AM	#13 (permalink)
Foxrac Need Stormtroopers? Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Zaphias Posts: 32,671	Yup, only for some reason, such as murder and rape. __________________ In Moto We Trust

02-22-2009, 11:56 AM	#14 (permalink)
Berry Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Oroville, Ca. Posts: 2,024	I voted other. Not because I am against the death penalty for heinous or unconscionable crimes but but because I believe better use could be made of the criminals by society. What bothers me is that once convicted of a crime such as murder the criminal is only deprived of their freedom of movement. They retain other rights which are inimical to the interests of society as a whole. Example: Many psychologists, psychiatrists, therapists, behavioral specialists, journalists, wanted access to Charles Manson -- They felt many things could be learned from him that could benefit society and help to prevent similar events in the future. But Manson had the right to pick and choose who he would or would not talk to. I do not believe the convicted criminal whose crime was monstrous should have that right. I believe a panel should be appointed who would determine who would have the best chance of producing viable results for humanity and giving those people access to question, test, etc. the prisoner and the criminal should have no say in the matter. In this way we might be better able to understand crime, prevent crime, and catch criminals faster and with greater certainty. __________________ Free Jillio! Living life in the sandbox.

02-22-2009, 12:45 PM	#15 (permalink)
Buffalo Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,025	I support death penalty only in cases that are beyond resonable doubts. I am abit leery of putting someone to death and only to find out that he is innocent all along. Chris' mom, I am sorry about your uncle. __________________ “The problem is not that the (deaf) students do not hear. The problem is that the hearing world does not listen. “- Rev Jesse L. Jackson ( American Civil Rights Activist, Minister)

02-22-2009, 12:49 PM	#16 (permalink)
Phillips Lets ride horses! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Spaceship Posts: 11,170	Vote> Only for certain reasons __________________ My journal! http://poochie21.blogspot.com/ *Enjoy life today, Yesterday has past and Tomorrow may never come.*

02-22-2009, 01:13 PM	#19 (permalink)
netrox Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 4,780	Personally, I'm all for putting murderers to death HOWEVER legally, I am against death penalty. Our justice system is imperfect and unequal. Notice the unusual high rate of black murderers compared to white murderers? There's a huge difference on treatments of ethnic groups. And we have many innocent convicts executed and that's wrong.

02-22-2009, 01:32 PM	#20 (permalink)
Tousi Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 15,733	Seems to me support for the death penalty would increase in proportion to the great advances in the areas of forensic sciences, reducing the possibility of executing those innocent. Last edited by Tousi; 02-22-2009 at 07:34 PM.

02-22-2009, 01:52 PM	#21 (permalink)
Maria Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: WISCONSIN Posts: 10,309	I support death penalty if, a person takes someone else's life away. That's a murder. I am sorry to read about your uncle. My condolence go to you and your family.

02-22-2009, 02:14 PM	#22 (permalink)
Liebling:-))) Sussi 7.7.86 - 18.6.09 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 31,038	First of all, I want to say how much I feel for you over the murder of your beloved Uncle. I´m truly sorry... My opinion over death penalty remind unchanged... See my posts in 2 different threads. The Death Penalty Europe Calls on World to Abolish Death Penalty I do not support death penalty... My vote is No. __________________

02-22-2009, 03:16 PM	#24 (permalink)
deafskeptic Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 14,512	I am fort the death penalty in certain cases. __________________ Left ear implanted with Med-El on April 24 2007. Activated on May 9th. Upgraded to Opus 2 9/10/2010 Think Pink. FREE JILLIO!

02-22-2009, 03:19 PM	#25 (permalink)
Beowulf Premium Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 10,515	I am against the death penalty for reasons too numerous to mention.

02-22-2009, 04:19 PM	#26 (permalink)
jillio Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 60,296	I, too, have made by feelings known regarding my opposition to the death penalty, and like Beowulf, my opposition is based on more than one line of reasoning.

02-22-2009, 07:17 PM	#28 (permalink)
Texan Guy Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: The Republic of Texas Posts: 2,550	I'm all for it. What can I say, I'm from Texas. __________________

02-22-2009, 08:26 PM	#29 (permalink)
chris' mom Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Fayetteville, AR Posts: 975	I'm sorry guys I guess I should read through all the threads to make sure I didn't repost something..I was just thinking of this last night and thought I would ask __________________ Lori & Sons Children are a gift from the Lord, indeed, they are a blessing.

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