Universal Health Care - Page 7

LuciaDisturbed · 11-08-2008, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Hear Again

What does the UN have to do with anything? I think your paranoia is beginning to rear its' ugly head again.

Again, Maria could use some Risperdal.

Hear Again · 11-08-2008, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by LuciaDisturbed

Again, Maria could use some Risperdal.

dreama · 11-08-2008, 05:37 PM

How long do americans have to wait before getting an apointment?

What Is the quality of the apointment like when you get it?

What is criteria of medaid Medcare?

Hear Again · 11-08-2008, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dreama

How long do americans have to wait before getting an apointment?

This varies from one medical center to another, but for most of my medical needs, I only have to wait a few days to a week for an appointment.

What Is the quality of the apointment like when you get it?

This largely depends on one's doctor. I'm fortunate enough to have some wonderful doctors and specialists. The only exception was a psychiatrist I was referred to (after being hospitalized for bipolar) who left it up to me as to whether or not I wanted to take meds for my bipolar. Since bipolar is a lifelong medical condition that requires meds to prevent severe manic episodes from occurring (manic episodes increase in frequency and severity as one gets older if they are unmedicated), they are essential for the proper treatment of the illness. I quickly ran away from that psychiatrist as fast as I could and found another whom I'm very happy with. Having said that, I think one of the things that needs improvement when it comes to medical care here in the U.S. is the time spent between doctor and patient. Most doctors only spend 15-20 minutes with their patients whereas in the past, it wasn't uncommon for doctors to spend up to 30 minutes with a patient.

What is criteria of medaid Medcare?

To qualify for Medicaid, a person must have an extremely low income and/or be disabled.

To qualify for Medicare, a person must have a moderate income, be disabled and/or age 65 or older.

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dreama · 11-08-2008, 07:23 PM

Thanks. I think I would qualifiy for Medicare then. My mum would have qualified for Mediaid as she had very low income. When she had cancer she was put on a long waiting list. If she had been seen sooner she could have had a hysterectomy and not have died. So she would have done better under the american system it seems.

Hear Again · 11-08-2008, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dreama

Thanks. I think I would qualifiy for Medicare then. My mum would have qualified for Mediaid as she had very low income. When she had cancer she was put on a long waiting list. If she had been seen sooner she could have had a hysterectomy and not have died. So she would have done better under the american system it seems.

You're welcome. <smile>

I'm sorry to hear about your mother, dreama. <hugs>

dreama · 11-08-2008, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Hear Again

You're welcome. <smile>

I'm sorry to hear about your mother, dreama. <hugs>

Thanks Hear Again (hugs)

Hear Again · 11-09-2008, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by dreama

Thanks Hear Again (hugs)

You're quite welcome, dreama! <smiles and hugs back>

jasin · 01-20-2009, 02:18 PM

Over 60% of America already has health care through the military, medicaid, medicare, medical, va, their employers, etc.

sequoias · 01-20-2009, 02:25 PM

I'm one of them that do not have health care.

jillio · 01-20-2009, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by sequoias

I'm one of them that do not have health care.

Exactly. If 60% do have insurance, then we are still looking at 40% who don't. And the vast majority of those work every day. Millions of that 40% are children.

sequoias · 01-20-2009, 02:57 PM

Yep, that's true about ones who don't have health insurance. it is pretty tough to have one. they usually are with jobs with degrees or high skill levels.

Byrdie714 · 01-20-2009, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by sequoias

Yep, that's true about ones who don't have health insurance. it is pretty tough to have one. they usually are with jobs with degrees or high skill levels.

Not necessairly. One can be a CNA and still obtain good vision, dental and medical benefits especially in Washington state as they are union.

sequoias · 01-20-2009, 05:31 PM

Im against unions because they cause corruptions to companies as they make companies pay unecessary payroll.

Byrdie714 · 01-20-2009, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sequoias

Im against unions because they cause corruptions to companies as they make companies pay unecessary payroll.

Some unions are corrupted, some aren't.

The SEIU Local# 775--the CNA union is one of the most progressive unions in this state. For starters--CNA's don't make the state minimum wage as their wage is over $ 11.00 an hour and their benefits are to be desired. Their dental is 100% paid.

Can you say that your dental insurance is 100% paid?

sequoias · 01-20-2009, 06:15 PM

yes I heard of seiu local union before. what does cna stand for? my ex roommate is under seiu local #6.

jasin · 01-20-2009, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

Exactly. If 60% do have insurance, then we are still looking at 40% who don't. And the vast majority of those work every day. Millions of that 40% are children.

Because they refuse to go and get it!

As far as the children go, if bush did not veto H.R. 976 & H.R. 3963 and republicans did no play their typical partisan politics every child in America would have health care.

Byrdie714 · 01-20-2009, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by sequoias

yes I heard of seiu local union before. what does cna stand for? my ex roommate is under seiu local #6.

Believe it or not....certified nurses assistants.

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Originally Posted by jasin

Because they refuse to go and get it!

As far as the children go, if bush did not veto H.R. 976 & H.R. 3963 and republicans did no play their typical partisan politics every child in America would have health care.

Thank goodness our state has it.

jasin · 01-20-2009, 06:48 PM

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sequoias · 01-20-2009, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Byrdie714

Believe it or not....certified nurses assistants.

Ahhh, sounds kinda like my job at Shared Journeys.

darkdog · 01-20-2009, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

Exactly. If 60% do have insurance, then we are still looking at 40% who don't. And the vast majority of those work every day. Millions of that 40% are children.

40%? Where did that come from? I've heard 15% (45.7 million people) and that was people who at any point in 2007 were uninsured, so that included people making temporary transitions between jobs.

naisho · 01-20-2009, 11:15 PM

Ok, let's reverse this around a bit.

¡OMG! I'm pretty sure they're wasting our tax dollars on other crap already on plans that didnt work! !OMG¡

Now with that being said, wouldn't it be better if they stop fooling around with some of the failed programs and worked on some real line of providable healthcare coverage instead?

Jiro · 01-20-2009, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by naisho

Ok, let's reverse this around a bit.

¡OMG! I'm pretty sure they're wasting our tax dollars on other crap already on plans that didnt work! !OMG¡

Now with that being said, wouldn't it be better if they stop fooling around with some of the failed programs and worked on some real line of providable healthcare coverage instead?

jillio · 01-21-2009, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by darkdog

40%? Where did that come from? I've heard 15% (45.7 million people) and that was people who at any point in 2007 were uninsured, so that included people making temporary transitions between jobs.

Jasin claimed that 60% of Americans have health insurance. The total population of the United States would be 100%. 100% minus 60% equals 40%. I didn't say the figures were accurate...just showing the other side of the calculation.

Foxrac · 01-21-2009, 03:56 AM

I don't support universal health care aka "free" health center after found alot of bad experience in Canada and UK but I does support social insurance or more regulation on health care, such as require companies to offers affordable insurance to their employees and control on medical cost.

I do have medicaid but insurance via wal fart is limited because they use health credit to count, if you passes the health credit then coverage will stopped, they are nowhere to good as moderate to high paying job offers better benefits.

webexplorer · 01-21-2009, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Foxrac

I don't support universal health care aka "free" health center after found alot of bad experience in Canada and UK but I does support social insurance or more regulation on health care, such as require companies to offers affordable insurance to their employees and control on medical cost.

I do have medicaid but insurance via wal fart is limited because they use health credit to count, if you passes the health credit then coverage will stopped, they are nowhere to good as moderate to high paying job offers better benefits.

I remember when President Clinton was the president maybe his first term, he had his own idea for all of us to join a health care plan. I don't know what it is called, so his plan was failed due the Congress of Republicans banned his idea. I don't know whether the Republicans were right or not. I don't follow up the old news so we need to stop both parties being baby or being selfish in their own party.

I hope that this time that Obama has a better idea. Surely, I am scare, too if we may not agree his plan or not - it is only way for us to find out soon from Obama's speech later on.

Foxrac · 01-21-2009, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by webexplorer

I remember when President Clinton was the president maybe his first term, he had his own idea for all of us to join a health care plan. I don't know what it is called, so his plan was failed due the Congress of Republicans banned his idea. I don't know whether the Republicans were right or not. I don't follow up the old news so we need to stop both parties being baby or being selfish in their own party.

I hope that this time that Obama has a better idea. Surely, I am scare, too if we may not agree his plan or not - it is only way for us to find out soon from Obama's speech later on.

Not true, you need look at history again.

During Clinton admin, in 1993 to 1995, congress is majority democratic, both in senate and house of rep, there's alot of democratic are range from moderate to conservative at this time.
103rd United States Congress - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Don't solely blame on republican.

webexplorer · 01-21-2009, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Foxrac

Not true, you need look at history again.

During Clinton admin, in 1993 to 1995, congress is majority democratic, both in senate and house of rep, there's alot of democratic are range from moderate to conservative at this time.
103rd United States Congress - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Don't solely blame on republican.

104th Congress (1995-1997):
Economy Better Under Democrats Than Republicans? | Misanthropy Today

I think that you are right some of them because I see the different time line when he was in his two terms. I believe that Clinton brought up his idea in the wrong time when Republicans had 52 seats - than Democrats had 48 seats.

I didn't say to blame on Republicans. In fact, some Republicans and Democrats are ridiculous when they were in the meeting to make some stupid laws that wasted billions of dollars. I am a Democrat, and I personally like Nixon and Reagan. Unfortunately, they screwed up some systems that can't be fixed. Did they mentioned about a health care in their time? I don't remember.

darkdog · 01-21-2009, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

Jasin claimed that 60% of Americans have health insurance. The total population of the United States would be 100%. 100% minus 60% equals 40%. I didn't say the figures were accurate...just showing the other side of the calculation.

Ah, I see that now. I'm not sure where he got that number. Perhaps that excludes those who directly buy their own insurance because they're self-employed or whatever.

Anyway, the official number for 2007 is 45.7 million people, although that's not the number of those that want but can't afford insurance. That number includes those who only temporarily went without insurance due to a job transition, those who can afford it but choose to save their money instead, and those who are eligible for government programs but are not enrolled. The estimates I've seen for people who are not eligible for government programs yet cannot get insurance through their jobs or afford to buy it directly are around 8 million people.

webexplorer · 01-21-2009, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by darkdog

Ah, I see that now. I'm not sure where he got that number. Perhaps that excludes those who directly buy their own insurance because they're self-employed or whatever.

Anyway, the official number for 2007 is 45.7 million people, although that's not the number of those that want but can't afford insurance. That number includes those who only temporarily went without insurance due to a job transition, those who can afford it but choose to save their money instead, and those who are eligible for government programs but are not enrolled. The estimates I've seen for people who are not eligible for government programs yet cannot get insurance through their jobs or afford to buy it directly are around 8 million people.

I have a question for you. Why many employees are working for their insurance company? Some of us know that they want to get big discounts for their own insurance bills awhile they work for the insurance company. I really think that these employees are very greedy.

A month ago, one man who worked for an insurance company got a layoff. He worked for some 20 years. He had very good discounts for a long time, and now he has to pay in full with his own pocket. He admitted himself for being selfish. He did say that on a local news on TV.

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11-08-2008, 05:37 PM	#183 (permalink)
dreama deafblind vegan Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: England Posts: 3,018	How long do americans have to wait before getting an apointment? What Is the quality of the apointment like when you get it? What is criteria of medaid Medcare? __________________ I speak for those who cannot speak for themselves. http://www.fightfoca.com/

11-08-2008, 07:23 PM	#185 (permalink)
dreama deafblind vegan Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: England Posts: 3,018	Thanks. I think I would qualifiy for Medicare then. My mum would have qualified for Mediaid as she had very low income. When she had cancer she was put on a long waiting list. If she had been seen sooner she could have had a hysterectomy and not have died. So she would have done better under the american system it seems. __________________ I speak for those who cannot speak for themselves. http://www.fightfoca.com/

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naisho Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,006	Ok, let's reverse this around a bit. ¡OMG! I'm pretty sure they're wasting our tax dollars on other crap already on plans that didnt work! !OMG¡ Now with that being said, wouldn't it be better if they stop fooling around with some of the failed programs and worked on some real line of providable healthcare coverage instead? __________________

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Foxrac PC gamer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Dixieland Posts: 19,109	I don't support universal health care aka "free" health center after found alot of bad experience in Canada and UK but I does support social insurance or more regulation on health care, such as require companies to offers affordable insurance to their employees and control on medical cost. I do have medicaid but insurance via wal fart is limited because they use health credit to count, if you passes the health credit then coverage will stopped, they are nowhere to good as moderate to high paying job offers better benefits. __________________

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01-20-2009, 02:18 PM	#189 (permalink)
jasin Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Puyallup, Washington Posts: 1,571	Over 60% of America already has health care through the military, medicaid, medicare, medical, va, their employers, etc.

01-20-2009, 02:25 PM	#190 (permalink)
sequoias Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Washington state Posts: 16,926	I'm one of them that do not have health care.

01-20-2009, 02:57 PM	#192 (permalink)
sequoias Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Washington state Posts: 16,926	Yep, that's true about ones who don't have health insurance. it is pretty tough to have one. they usually are with jobs with degrees or high skill levels.

01-20-2009, 05:31 PM	#194 (permalink)
sequoias Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Washington state Posts: 16,926	Im against unions because they cause corruptions to companies as they make companies pay unecessary payroll.

01-20-2009, 06:15 PM	#196 (permalink)
sequoias Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Washington state Posts: 16,926	yes I heard of seiu local union before. what does cna stand for? my ex roommate is under seiu local #6.

01-20-2009, 06:48 PM	#199 (permalink)
jasin Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Puyallup, Washington Posts: 1,571	Health Insurance, Medical Insurance, Individual Health Insurance Quotes Is a good place to search for health care.

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