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Gallaudet and CI

Hey.. who are gallaudet students presently, what is the community at gallaudet like toward cochlear implant user?

I was just in myspace, and suddenly got worried about people at gallaudet and me wearing a ci.. i know i am such a paranoid freak, but curious about it..
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im not sure, but i've heard that most of the gally students are against those who use CI and can speak and listen...as long as u are fluent in ASL, u shouldnt be too worried about it..try covering ur CI with ur hair or sumthing n u can easily blend in the whole crowd..if not, u prolly would get pretty bad looks from the deafies..
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Just hang around Jane F. She'll make sure no one picks on u for the CI.

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Just ingore them and just be yourself.. and if they don't accept you because you have an CI then they aren't your true friends to begin with. But nowadays.. CI is slowly but surely getting more accepted daily. Don't worry and just enjoy being at Gallaudet!
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I think the CI is inevitably becoming more and more acceptable/respected in our society, including the Gally environment; after all, isn't that part if not the key concept being pushed by "deafhood" that we keep hearing about these days? I sure hope so.
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I don't go to Gallaudet, so I wouldn't know.
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I think the CI is inevitably becoming more and more acceptable/respected in our society, including the Gally environment; after all, isn't that part if not the key concept being pushed by "deafhood" that we keep hearing about these days? I sure hope so.
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I think the CI is inevitably becoming more and more acceptable/respected in our society, including the Gally environment; after all, isn't that part if not the key concept being pushed by "deafhood" that we keep hearing about these days? I sure hope so.
It won't work though, it would still peer pressure like in most deaf school.
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CI'ers can be students at Gallaudet.. they are all deaf... It is no big deal.. Even hearing students goes there....

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There will always be jerks who won't respect your decision to have/use your CI, but that's the way life goes. Overall I think the attitude towards CIs have changed. I read a comment IKJ made back in 1997 where he said that CIs were basically non-existant on campus and students as a whole did not accept CIs. The attitude has changed a bit, and I've noticed students with implants walking around campus.
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Gallaudet definitely has changed. If you were a student and had a CI anytime during the 1980's or until late 1990's, you would not feel very welcome at all! I heard of one student getting up in the middle of the class, proclaim that she will not use the CI again, and threw it in the trash.

Thankfully, more enlightening times are ahead! The main thing is ad hoc education; You will always attract a stare or two, a negative comment here and there. Just quickly correct whatever misconceptions or unfounded grudges they may harbor. Show that you are still Deaf after all, and well deserving of a fine education at Gallaudet!
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You will always attract a stare or two, a negative comment here and there. Just quickly correct whatever misconceptions or unfounded grudges they may harbor. Show that you are still Deaf after all, and well deserving of a fine education at Gallaudet!
*nods* Yeah, I think that attitude might have a lot to do with it. I think part of the anti CI movement is b/c some oral deaf people(meaning card carrying AG Bellers or AVIers) have traditionally looked down on Sign and Deaf culture. I'm not defending the antis, but some oral people can be so incredibly rude and nasty (ie I'm better then you b/c i have better hearing and speech skills)
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*nods* Yeah, I think that attitude might have a lot to do with it. I think part of the anti CI movement is b/c some oral deaf people(meaning card carrying AG Bellers or AVIers) have traditionally looked down on Sign and Deaf culture. I'm not defending the antis, but some oral people can be so incredibly rude and nasty (ie I'm better then you b/c i have better hearing and speech skills)
I think that's it in a nutshell. Just remember that one person's decision not to use a CI is the right one for them, but that another's decision to use a CI is right for them, as well. There isn't one single way that is right for everyone. Attitude is the key. And I agree, some oralists can be extremely rude and judgemental. It's because they have been brainwashed all of their lives, and taught that their deafness is something to be ashamed of. It's sad, really.

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*nods* Yeah, I think that attitude might have a lot to do with it. I think part of the anti CI movement is b/c some oral deaf people(meaning card carrying AG Bellers or AVIers) have traditionally looked down on Sign and Deaf culture. I'm not defending the antis, but some oral people can be so incredibly rude and nasty (ie I'm better then you b/c i have better hearing and speech skills)
Is it possible that they (or at least some of them) feel defensive because signers look down on them? In which case, who will take the first step and decide that the past is the past?
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Is it possible that they (or at least some of them) feel defensive because signers look down on them? In which case, who will take the first step and decide that the past is the past?
I think it goes deeper than that. I think they actually feel superior to signing deaf, because the whole oral philosophy teaches that sign is a lesser language. Oralists take the stance that the only signing deaf are the ones that are oral failures, and that they would not choose to be that way. If they had a choice, signing deaf would become oral deaf. It's a horrible misconception that oralists have been touting for too many years. It reinforces the concept that deaf who sign are not as intelligent.
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Yea i've heard that at Gally they're not that accepting of that stuff. However, i hope for everyone's sake it's not true!!
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think they actually feel superior to signing deaf, because the whole oral philosophy teaches that sign is a lesser language. Oralists take the stance that the only signing deaf are the ones that are oral failures, and that they would not choose to be that way. If they had a choice, signing deaf would become oral deaf. It's a horrible misconception that oralists have been touting for too many years.
Thank you jillo!!!! Yeah, some signer seperatists can turn off oralists, I readily admit that, but I think that the orgin of that attitude lies with audist oralists. Does that make any sense?
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Thank you jillo!!!! Yeah, some signer seperatists can turn off oralists, I readily admit that, but I think that the orgin of that attitude lies with audist oralists. Does that make any sense?
From a historical perspective, I certainly see why oralism is mistrusted by the Deaf community. I'm just saying, I think that sword cuts both ways now.
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...try covering ur CI with ur hair or sumthing n u can easily blend in the whole crowd..if not, u prolly would get pretty bad looks from the deafies..
Wow, that is sad.
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CI'ers can be students at Gallaudet.. they are all deaf... It is no big deal.. Even hearing students goes there....

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You know about deaf people in Gallaudet seems nothing to do with other students who have CI.

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Thank you jillo!!!! Yeah, some signer seperatists can turn off oralists, I readily admit that, but I think that the orgin of that attitude lies with audist oralists. Does that make any sense?
Makes perfect sense to me, Deafdyke--even though it appears to be convoluted logic!
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Jeez ... again thats where you are wrong again... colleges and high schools are different... Gallaudet university would accept CI'ers because they are under the category of deafness.... it makes no difference... lots of hearing students attend there...
You have lots lots of learnings.. You just graduated from high school not enough experiences in real world...
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Jeez ... again thats where you are wrong again... colleges and high schools are different... Gallaudet university would accept CI'ers because they are under the category of deafness.... it makes no difference... lots of hearing students attend there...
You have lots lots of learnings.. You just graduated from high school not enough experiences in real world...
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That's BS because people are required to be at 75 dbs of hearing loss to attend Gallaudet because I got information from Gallaudet about attendance but relationship between students with no CI and students with CI are so-so because they have reason in their views, just like Heath who hate gay people then it's his views, also same thing with opinion. I KNOW that both of high school and university are different BUT... Gallaudent is tends to be almost same as deaf school does with alot of deaf students and some are HoH.

I have alot of experiences in the world, of course then stop bash me.

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That's BS because people are required to be at 75 dbs of hearing loss to attend Gallaudet because I got information from Gallaudet about attendance but relationship between students with no CI and students with CI are so-so because they have reason in their views, just like Heath who hate gay people then it's his views, also same thing with opinion. I KNOW that both of high school and university are different BUT... Gallaudent is tends to be almost same as deaf school does with alot of deaf students and some are HoH.

I have alot of experiences in the world, of course then stop bash me.

Leave me alone and I don't want hear your shit to insult my intelligence.
There is not a 75 db requirement for Gally students. Case and point: I'm entering as an undergraduate student and I'm hearing.

How much time have you spent at Gallaudet? How are your connections with faculty, staff and students on campus? Are you sure that your assumptions regarding the general attitude towards those with implants is correct?
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Jeez ... again thats where you are wrong again... colleges and high schools are different... Gallaudet university would accept CI'ers because they are under the category of deafness.... it makes no difference... lots of hearing students attend there...
You have lots lots of learnings.. You just graduated from high school not enough experiences in real world...
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BINGO! Over 50% of graduate students there are hearing.
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There is not a 75 db requirement for Gally students. Case and point: I'm entering as an undergraduate student and I'm hearing.

How much time have you spent at Gallaudet? How are your connections with faculty, staff and students on campus? Are you sure that your assumptions regarding the general attitude towards those with implants is correct?
I don't believe what you said.
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BINGO! Over 50% of graduate students there are hearing.
That's BS unless if count for HoH students.

If hearing people and don't know how to use sign language then can't attend.
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[QUOTE=volcomskatz]That's BS because people are required to be at 75 dbs of hearing loss to attend Gallaudet because I got information from Gallaudet about attendance but relationship between students with no CI and students with CI are so-so because they have reason in their views, just like Heath who hate gay people then it's his views, also same thing with opinion. I KNOW that both of high school and university are different BUT... Gallaudent is tends to be almost same as deaf school does with alot of deaf students and some are HoH.

I have alot of experiences in the world, of course then stop bash me.

Leave me alone and I don't want hear your shit to insult my intelligence.[/QUOT

WRONG!!! you need to research some more deeper.... lots of hearing students attended there in Gallaudet.... I was born and raised in virginia and graduated from VSDB about two hours drive to Washington D.C.
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