So...what you think about the health care bill?

[Eve]

Nothing is free.

 

[shel90]

Nothing is free.

So, do you support the fact that people suffer without health insurance?

 

[jillio]

It is about time that this country took a real and impactful step toward equalizing the availability of something as fundamental as health care.

 

[shel90]

It is about time that this country took a real and impactful step toward equalizing the availability of something as fundamental as health care.

Aint that the TRUTH!!!!

 

[Foxrac]

Aint that the TRUTH!!!!

Yup, yup, yup....

 

[KristinaB]

Most of the oppositions here on AllDeaf already do have private insurance. Hell... I got private insurance.

I don't have insurance. We jst moved and hubby got a job, but right now it's through a temp agency that doesn't have insurance. He will get hired on by the company this month, but we still won't have insurance until Jan or Feb. We don't qualify for medicaid since we own too many vehicles and a boat and we don't have to pay any mortgage or rent. I am on a prescription medicine that I now have no more refills and since I don't have insurance I can't see a doctor to get a new prescription. If I go for more than 2 days without the medicine, I go through withdrawals and my equilibrium goes wacky. I've been wanting to get off it, but I need a doctor to reduce the dosage gradually to wean me off it. I was told that it was non-habit forming and that stopping would be no problem. I have been on it for 2 years and it is no longer helping take care of the pain.

I would almost welcome the Obama plan, but I don't trust Obama.

 

[KristinaB]

It is about time that this country took a real and impactful step toward equalizing the availability of something as fundamental as health care.

I totally agree!!

 

[Eve]

So, do you support the fact that people suffer without health insurance?

People with health insurance suffer. The fact remains that once government starts taking over private medicine, it is a slippery slope toward socialism.

 

[shel90]

People with health insurance suffer. The fact remains that once government starts taking over private medicine, it is a slippery slope toward socialism.

Try to convince my brother who has been without health insurance for almost 2 years that people with health insurance suffer.

 

[Eve]

Maybe he should move to Canada where they already have socialized medicine.

 

[jillio]

People with health insurance suffer. The fact remains that once government starts taking over private medicine, it is a slippery slope toward socialism.

Slippery slope arguments are always without merit. They are always nothing more than an attempt to divert and manipulate through fear.

You really need to get your facts straight. The government is not taking over private practitioner's ability to practice medicine. We are talking about insurance coverage, not actual practice. And the insurance companies have been controlling medicine for years. Personally, I don't agree that some pencil pusher with a GED has the authority to determine whether a doctor's decision regarding necessary medical care is correct or insurable is standard practice in this country. And that has been happening for years. Why? Because the insurance companies are largely unregulated regarding this type of practice and have been allowed to rob the American public for years. Health care reform is a huge step away from that practice.

 

[jillio]

Maybe he should move to Canada where they already have socialized medicine.

Do you have any concept of some of the terms you are throwing around, or are you simply repeating them because they sounded good when someone else used them?

Quite frankly, your attitude is one of the reasons that this country has become so self centered and lacking in any empathy at all. There is absolutely no reason in the world why an American citizen who works and contributes to this country on a daily basis should have to move to another country in order to receive something as fundamental as health care. To suggest such is absurd.

 

[shel90]

Maybe he should move to Canada where they already have socialized medicine.

That's your solution? A very weak one.:roll:

 

[shel90]

Do you have any concept of some of the terms you are throwing around, or are you simply repeating them because they sounded good when someone else used them?

Quite frankly, your attitude is one of the reasons that this country has become so self centered and lacking in any empathy at all. There is absolutely no reason in the world why an American citizen who works and contributes to this country on a daily basis should have to move to another country in order to receive something as fundamental as health care. To suggest such is absurd.

Not only it is absurd..it is egostical. My brother and many Americans work hard but yet get screwed by the insurance companies or system we have now.

 

[jillio]

Not only it is absurd..it is egostical. My brother and many Americans work hard but yet get screwed by the insurance companies or system we have now.

Agreed. And I have a few other choice words for remarks like that as well.

 

[shel90]

Agreed. And I have a few other choice words for remarks like that as well.

I wonder if anyone who has protested against this bill has ever gone without health care?

 

[Eve]

Slippery slope arguments are always without merit. They are always nothing more than an attempt to divert and manipulate through fear.

Funny, I bet that is exactly what they said in Cuba to those against Fidel Castro’s new regime.

You really need to get your facts straight. The government is not taking over private practitioner's ability to practice medicine.

It all starts somewhere.

Do you have any concept of some of the terms you are throwing around, or are you simply repeating them because they sounded good when someone else used them?

Fortunately, I am quite capable of forming a complete thought and sentence on my own with no help from the peanut gallery.

Quite frankly, your attitude is one of the reasons that this country has become so self centered and lacking in any empathy at all.

And your attitude is what is leading this once great nation into the path of socialism. It didn’t work for Russia, and it won’t work for us.

There is absolutely no reason in the world why an American citizen who works and contributes to this country on a daily basis should have to move to another country in order to receive something as fundamental as health care. To suggest such is absurd.

Well, my other suggestion would be that he get a job that offers benefits, but that was obviously out of the question.

 

[Eve]

I wonder if anyone who has protested against this bill has ever gone without health care?

yes.

 

[shel90]

Funny, I bet that is exactly what they said in Cuba to those against Fidel Castro’s new regime.

It all starts somewhere.

Fortunately, I am quite capable of forming a complete thought and sentence on my own with no help from the peanut gallery.

And your attitude is what is leading this once great nation into the path of socialism. It didn’t work for Russia, and it won’t work for us.

Well, my other suggestion would be that he get a job that offers benefits, but that was obviously out of the question.

Out of the question? How so?

 

[Eve]

Out of the question? How so?

I am sure that if he had any intentions of getting a job with benefits, he would have already done so...