Religion at work vs religion at school

[apathrev]

Playboy in not porn!!! Its Nudity! Jesus christ!

The 3rd Commandment states "you shall not take then name of the Lord your God in vain." If you're going to see that kids are corrupt today because they are not taught the 10 Commandments, then practice what you preach.

 

[Reba]

I don't think RS has ever professed to be a Christian; therefor, his statements about Christians don't relate to him.

 

[apathrev]

He's stated that he's prayed to the Christian God before, he advocates school sponsored prayer, and states that one of the reasons kids commit crimes is because they are not taught the 10 Commandments. Are we also to believe that Steve is not a conservative Republican simply because he never openly stated it?

If it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, and walks like a duck, it must be a duck.

 

[Reba]

He's stated that he's prayed to the Christian God before, he advocates school sponsored prayer, and states that one of the reasons kids commit crimes is because they are not taught the 10 Commandments. Are we also to believe that Steve is not a conservative Republican simply because he never openly stated it?

If it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, and walks like a duck, it must be a duck.

But RS doesn't sound like a Christian, he doesn't "walk" (live) like a Christian, so I don't think he is a Christian. I have never read any of his posts stating that he had accepted Jesus Christ as his personal Savior. Many of his posts state that he is angry with God, and doesn't accept God's will. That is not the Christian way.

Many unsaved, non-Christian people pray and support conservative political ideologies. That doesn't mean that they are born-again Christians.

If a person truly is a Christian, he/she is not ashamed to say so.

 

[IcedTeaRulz]

So, Christian values are a good thing? I find this hard to believe coming from you considering that you were whining in another thread that God didn't answer YOUR prayers.

U got a good point! ^5

 

[apathrev]

But RS doesn't sound like a Christian, he doesn't "walk" (live) like a Christian, so I don't think he is a Christian. I have never read any of his posts stating that he had accepted Jesus Christ as his personal Savior. Many of his posts state that he is angry with God, and doesn't accept God's will. That is not the Christian way.

Many unsaved, non-Christian people pray and support conservative political ideologies. That doesn't mean that they are born-again Christians.

If a person truly is a Christian, he/she is not ashamed to say so.

In today's world, the term Christian doesn't have much meaning, anyways. Anyone that goes to church every once in a while may refer to themself as a Christian. Many people will claim to be Christian that go to church, but have no relationship with God. If someone were to ask me simply ask me "are you a Christian?" I'd say no, because I do not fit the bill of the modern Christian, and I do not wish to associate myself with that group of people. I do accept Jesus, and I do have faith that there is a God.

Regardless, whether he is Christian or not, is not the point. He claims today's you need to be taught the Ten Commandments. He never made mentioned of the youth being Christian. Then a couple posts down, he breaks a Commandment. Therefore it does apply to him.

Maybe its not that he's ashamed, but that no one has ever asked him straight "Are you a Christian."

 

[Banjo]

He's stated that he's prayed to the Christian God before, he advocates school sponsored prayer.

Only during the exams, of course.

 

[Nancy]

But RS doesn't sound like a Christian, he doesn't "walk" (live) like a Christian, so I don't think he is a Christian. I have never read any of his posts stating that he had accepted Jesus Christ as his personal Savior. Many of his posts state that he is angry with God, and doesn't accept God's will. That is not the Christian way.

Many unsaved, non-Christian people pray and support conservative political ideologies. That doesn't mean that they are born-again Christians.

If a person truly is a Christian, he/she is not ashamed to say so.

 

[HoneyShot]

Maybe its not that he's ashamed, but that no one has ever asked him straight "Are you a Christian."

Ok, so is it ok to ask him then?

RS, would you be prepared to share if you are Christian or not, and what your experience is? (Then people might know if it is relevant.) You don't have to answer, ofc, but it looks like people might be interested!

 

[apathrev]

Of course it is ok to ask him, but I still believe it is irrelevant to the topic at hand or, for any matter, any topic that has been discussed in this thread. And I apologize for letting it get this far off track.

 

[HoneyShot]

Of course it is ok to ask him, but I still believe it is irrelevant to the topic at hand or, for any matter, any topic that has been discussed in this thread. And I apologize for letting it get this far off track.

Yeah, good point! I just thought it might end the debate as to if he is Christian or not, if he answered instead of people trying to figure it out, so that it can get back to topic.

 

[Reba]

OK, back on topic.

On CBS news story certain employers allow prayers at the work place like muslims can pray at certain times.They seperate rooms for certain people based on their religion. Now why cant they work something like this at a public school system. I say seperate whatever kids religion is. Like all jewish kids in their home room and the teacher must be jewish too.All catholic kids in another homeroom and teacher is catholic And the 10 commandments displayed all christan homerooms. If they can do this at the workplace why not do it in public schools as well?

The last time I remember praying in public school was in sixth grade (that would be 1963). My class was mostly Italian Catholic kids, a few Greek Orthodox, then about an equal number of Jewish and Protestant kids. No Muslims or other religions, or atheists (at least, not that they mentioned). The teacher led the prayer.

Officially, we had all Christian holidays off from school. Unofficially, we had Jewish holidays "off" because so many kids and teachers stayed home on those days that no real classes could be taught. Every Friday, the cafeteria served fishsticks because the Catholic kids couldn't eat meat.

 

[deaf24fan]

Playboy in not porn!!! Its Nudity! Jesus christ!

It is porn in a form of Soft Porn. Soft porn is usually basically just nudity and maybe just light sex or hinting of sex. Hard core is more open and more showing of nudity, sex, and et al. Playboy falls under the category of Adult Magazine same as Penthouse and even more hard-core materials.

 

[Reba]

Todays kids are not like kids back in the 1950s and beyond the 50s.Kids back in that era knew it was wrong to bring guns to school.

We didn't need to bring guns to school. We already had guns at school; my high school had rifle teams (for girls and boys). (BTW, that was in small-town Connecticut, not a "red-neck" area.) Yes, life was different.

 

[deaf24fan]

Perhaps they didn't need guns to school, but they have other types of weapons such as butterfly knives, switchblade, etc.

No era are perfect. Each era has its own social injustices that conform to its environment.

And back to topic about religion in public place. If I was a president of a company or principal of a school, I would advocate open religion along with education of respecting one's another's differences in religion.

I am neutral in religion and has nothing against religion in each person. I'm just against those who are theocentric or something like that who decides that their religion is right and other is wrong and attack for that very reason.
I'm more of a (I don't remember a term for it I have seen it in a newspaper column a while ago) person who prefer proof like scientific proof of existence than just writings and preachings.

 

[apathrev]

Perhaps they didn't need guns to school, but they have other types of weapons such as butterfly knives, switchblade, etc.

No era are perfect. Each era has its own social injustices that conform to its environment.

And back to topic about religion in public place. If I was a president of a company or principal of a school, I would advocate open religion along with education of respecting one's another's differences in religion.

I am neutral in religion and has nothing against religion in each person. I'm just against those who are theocentric or something like that who decides that their religion is right and other is wrong and attack for that very reason.
I'm more of a (I don't remember a term for it I have seen it in a newspaper column a while ago) person who prefer proof like scientific proof of existence than just writings and preachings.

I believe the word you might be looking for is agnostic.

 

[deaf24fan]

I believe the word you might be looking for is agnostic.

Maybe that's it. I thought it started with an "N". Thanks.

 

[apathrev]

Main Entry: 1ag·nos·tic
Pronunciation: ag-'näs-tik, &g-
Function: noun
Etymology: Greek agnOstos unknown, unknowable, from a- + gnOstos known, from gignOskein to know -- more at KNOW
: a person who holds the view that any ultimate reality (as God) is unknown and prob. unknowable; broadly : one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god

This is the closest I can think of.

 

[ravensteve1961]

The 3rd Commandment states "you shall not take then name of the Lord your God in vain." If you're going to see that kids are corrupt today because they are not taught the 10 Commandments, then practice what you preach.

Hey...He did mean you cant type it on the net. How can you take the lords name in vain if you typed it on the net. He meant for you not say it outta your mouth.

 

[ravensteve1961]

OK, back on topic.


The last time I remember praying in public school was in sixth grade (that would be 1963). My class was mostly Italian Catholic kids, a few Greek Orthodox, then about an equal number of Jewish and Protestant kids. No Muslims or other religions, or atheists (at least, not that they mentioned). The teacher led the prayer.

Officially, we had all Christian holidays off from school. Unofficially, we had Jewish holidays "off" because so many kids and teachers stayed home on those days that no real classes could be taught. Every Friday, the cafeteria served fishsticks because the Catholic kids couldn't eat meat.

And this liberal took our christain rights away.