President Obama reverses abortion-funds policy

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Hear Again said:
that's where social service agencies come in.
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typical solution by pro-lifers but sad part is - our foster care system is broken.

Foxrac said:
What are you means? they can take baby away if they couldn't afford to keep baby?
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yes of course. they can take your baby away if there is abuse too
 
Hear Again said:
not necessarily. lots of social service agencies provide funding and shelter to teenage mothers and/or couples who need it.
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Oh really for teenage mothers who got kicked out from parent?

Being kick out from parent is no fun. :(
 
Foxrac said:
Oh really for teenage mothers who got kicked out from parent?

Being kick out from parent is no fun. :(
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who said it was? ...and yes, social service agencies do not discriminate on the basis of why a teenage mother is disowned from her parents. they provide assistance to any teenage mother who needs it.
 
Foxrac said:
Oh really for teenage mothers who got kicked out from parent?

Being kick out from parent is no fun. :(
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it's not that easy though. it's mostly reserved for those in dire situation.... such as abused mother/wife. because they have very limited budget and space.
 
Jiro said:
it's not that easy though. it's mostly reserved for those in dire situation.... such as abused mother/wife. because they have very limited budget and space.
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actually, it's not. there are plenty of social service agencies who help teenage mothers regardless of income. i've studied social work for the past 3 and a half years and know this to be fact. for example, free walk-in clinics provide medical services to any teenage mother who needs it.
 
Hear Again said:
actually, it's not. there are plenty of social service agencies who help teenage mothers regardless of income. i've studied social work for the past 3 and a half years and know this to be fact.
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I was referring to non-profit organizations
 
Hear Again said:
you didn't clarify that in your post. hence, my confusion.
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however - i wouldn't put much faith in social service system. it's simply overworked, underfunded.
 
Hear Again said:
who said it was? ...and yes, social service agencies do not discriminate on the basis of why a teenage mother is disowned from her parents. they provide assistance to any teenage mother who needs it.
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I was just ask to make understand.

Thanks for explanation that you did.
 
Hear Again said:
no parent "forces" their daughter to have an abortion. it is the teenage mother who chooses to have an abortion -- no one else. besides, if a teenage mother allows a doctor to touch her body, she is giving him/her permission to conduct an abortion.
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It has happened, and two of our own ADers have testified to their own experiences.

Some parents have a lot of control (physical, emotional, financial) over their minor daughters.
 
Hear Again said:
no parent "forces" their daughter to have an abortion.

It's not true. I was forced to have an abortion by parents when I was 17. My parents allowed my young sister to keep her unborn child when she was 16. I am 2 years older than my sister.

it is the teenage mother who chooses to have an abortion -- no one else.

I wasn't allowed to choose NOT to have an abortion.

besides, if a teenage mother allows a doctor to touch her body, she is giving him/her permission to conduct an abortion.
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Doctor already touched by usin' a vacuum to kill my unborn child. I felt like my body doesn't belong to me. It belonged to my parents who made the decisions without discussin' it with me first to see how I felt. It was always my parents' feelings to decide what's the best for THEM.
 
Reba said:
It has happened, and two of our own ADers have testified to their own experiences.

Some parents have a lot of control (physical, emotional, financial) over their minor daughters.
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when you explain it that way reba, it makes perfect sense (not that i condone it). my apologies for debating everyone in this thread.
 
Reba said:
It has happened, and two of our own ADers have testified to their own experiences.

Some parents have a lot of control (physical, emotional, financial) over their minor daughters.
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You are right.
 
Jiro said:
so 2.......... out of 10000 who absolutely needs it
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No, that's 2 out whatever number of female ADers have had abortions, and have been willing to share that information with us.

Where do you get "10000"? I think you're just tossing around numbers.
 
I think Jiro was just trying to show how insignificant the testimonial of two does as a whole compared to the rest of the people related to it. It was more of a sarcastic tongue in cheek reference.
 
naisho said:
I think Jiro was just trying to show how insignificant the testimonial of two does as a whole compared to the rest of the people related to it. It was more of a sarcastic tongue in cheek reference.
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yes. "the needs of few outweighs the needs of many"
 
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