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Grayma said:
So it's okay to add Cain to this thread, but not any Democrats? Why?
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Says who? I've repeatedly stated that thread is about gingrich and as for anything else- feel free to create a thread about it. It's not very hard to do that.
 
Jiro said:
Says who? I've repeatedly stated that thread is about gingrich and as for anything else- feel free to create a thread about it. It's not very hard to do that.
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Just wanted to make people get the message.
 
Grayma said:
So it's okay to add Cain to this thread, but not any Democrats? Why?
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The Cain addition followed the Obama addition. Besides, there are about 60,000 threads devoted to bashing Obama, and maybe 5 for bashing Gingrich. Would you prefer a 50/50 mix?

BTW, I don't like Obama, and I am not a Liberal.
 
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Grayma said:
Gingrich is an adulterer with a messy history.
His first wife his his geography teacher in high school and she seduced him and bedded him when he was still a minor. That was unethical of the wife.
Later he cheated on that wife, divorced his first wife and married his mistress.
Then he cheated on his former mistress, now wife, divorced her, and married his new mistress.

I won't be defending him against the truth or voting for him. But I don't believe his exwife's steamiest allegations, either. Her story does keep changing. She is bitter. You should always take an ex's stories with a grain of salt.
Also, I have NO sympathy for mistresses who break up marriages, marry the guy they had an affair with, and then get upset when the guy they committed adultery with later cheats on them.

If you are sleeping with another woman's husband, which his ex-wife did, and then marry the cheater, well, you married a cheater and you knew it, because you are also a cheater. What do you expect? A man who committed adultery *with* you is just as likely to commit adultery later with some other cheater.

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You're right on the dot about Gingrich's questionable sense of moral value. I just want to clarify that the purpose of this thread is to discuss about a very long history of Gingrich's questionable sense of ethic and moral value, not to gossip around about his scandalous affairs.

So back to topic - it is quite obvious that Gingrich is running some shady money-laundering scheme like Jack Abramoff and Tom DeLay. A hefty portion of over $2.5 million income came from Gingrich Productions? seriously? have you seen his site? how is it so profitable? what's so profitable about it? it's fishy.

People convicted in Abramoff probe
Lawmakers, lobbyists, Bush administration officials, congressional staffers, and businessmen caught up in the Jack Abramoff public corruption probe:[80][81]

Adam Kidan (a former Abramoff business partner), was sentenced in Florida in March 2006 to nearly six years in prison for conspiracy and fraud in the 2000 purchase of the Fort Lauderdale-based SunCruz Casinos gambling fleet.

Susan B. Ralston (R) Special Assistant to the President and Senior Advisor to Karl Rove, resigned October 6, 2006 after it became known that she accepted gifts and passed information to her former boss Jack Abramoff.[82]

Roger Stillwell (R) Staff in the Department of the Interior under George W. Bush. Pleaded guilty and received two years suspended sentence [83] for not reporting hundreds of dollars worth of sports and concert tickets he received from Abramoff.

Steven Griles, (R) (former Deputy Interior Secretary) the highest-ranking Bush administration official convicted in the scandal, pleaded guilty to obstruction of justice. He admitted lying to a Senate committee about his relationship with Abramoff, who repeatedly sought Griles' intervention at Interior on behalf of Indian tribal clients.

David Safavian, (R) (former White House official), the Bush administration's former top procurement official, was sentenced to 18 months in prison in October 2006 after he was found guilty of covering up his dealings with Abramoff.[84] found guilty of blocking justice and lying,[85] and sentenced to 18 months[86]

Bob Ney, then U. S. Representative, (R-Ohio), pleaded guilty September 2006, sentenced in January 2007 to 2½ years in prison, acknowledged taking bribes from Abramoff. Ney was in the traveling party on an Abramoff-sponsored golf trip to Scotland at the heart of the case against Safavian.

Neil Volz, (R) a former chief of staff to Ney who left government to work for Abramoff, pleaded guilty in May 2006 to conspiring to corrupt Ney and others with trips and other aid

William Heaton, (R) former chief of staff for Ney, pleaded guilty to a federal conspiracy charge involving a golf trip to Scotland, expensive meals, and tickets to sporting events between 2002 and 2004 as payoffs for helping Abramoff's clients.

Thomas Hart (R)[disambiguation needed ], former chief of staff for Ney, pleaded guilty to a federal conspiracy charge involving a golf trip to Scotland, expensive meals, and tickets to sporting events between 2002 and 2004 as payoffs for helping Abramoff's clients.

Italia Federici, (R) co-founder of the Council of Republicans for Environmental Advocacy, pleaded guilty to tax evasion and obstruction of a Senate investigation into Abramoff's relationship with officials at the Department of Interior.

Mark Zachares, former aide to U. S. Representative Don Young, (R-Alaska), pleaded guilty to conspiracy. He acknowledged accepting tens of thousands of dollars worth of gifts and a golf trip to Scotland from Abramoff's team in exchange for official acts on the lobbyist's behalf.

Kevin A. Ring former staff to John Doolittle (R-CA) was convicted of five charges of corruption.[87][88]

James Hirni, former staff to Tim Hutchinson (R-AR) was charged with wire fraud for giving a staffer for Don Young (R) of Alaska a bribe in exchange for amendments to the Federal Highway Bill. (2008)[89]

Tom DeLay (R-TX) The House Majority Leader was reprimanded twice by the House Ethics Committee and his aides indicted (2004–2005); eventually DeLay himself was investigated in October 2005 in connection with the Abramoff scandal, but not indicted. DeLay resigned from the House 9 June 2006.[90] Delay was found to have illegally channeled funds from Americans for a Republican Majority to Republican state legislator campaigns. He was convicted of two counts of money laundering and conspiracy in 2010.[91]

Michael Scanlon (R) former staff to Tom DeLay: working for Abramoff, pled guilty to bribery.[77][78]

Tony Rudy (R) former staff to Tom DeLay, pleaded guilty to conspiracy.[78]

James W. Ellis (R) executive director of Tom DeLay's political action committee, Americans for a Republican Majority (ARMPAC), was indicted by Texas for money laundering.[92]

John Colyandro executive director of Tom DeLay's political action committee, Texans for a Republican Majority (TRMPAC), was indicted by Texas for money laundering[92]

John Albaugh former chief of staff to Ernest Istook (R-OK) pled guilty to accepting bribes connected to the Federal Highway Bill. Istook was not charged. (2008)[93]

Jared Carpenter (R) Vice-President of the Council of Republicans for Environmental Advocacy, was discovered during the Abramoff investigation and pled guilty to income tax evasion. He got 45 days, plus 4 years probation.[94]

Robert E. Coughlin (R) Deputy Chief of Staff, Criminal Division of the Justice Department pleaded guilty to conflict of interest after accepting bribes from Jack Abramoff. (2008)[52]

Horace Cooper former labor department official with the Bush administration and aide to Rep. Dick Armey plead guilty to falsifying a document when he did not report receiving gifts from Abramoff.[95]
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jiro said:
says who? I've repeatedly stated that thread is about bashing gingrich and as for anything else- feel free to create a thread about it. It's not very hard to do that.
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Jiro said:
it's only post-season. wait till championship :lol:
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I don't know a lot about sports but isn't the sequence pre-season, season, championship, and then the post-season?
 
Jiro said:
You're right on the dot about Gingrich's questionable sense of moral value. I just want to clarify that the purpose of this thread is to discuss about a very long history of Gingrich's questionable sense of ethic and moral value, not to gossip around about his scandalous affairs.

So back to topic - it is quite obvious that Gingrich is running some shady money-laundering scheme like Jack Abramoff and Tom DeLay. A hefty portion of over $2.5 million income came from Gingrich Productions? seriously? have you seen his site? how is it so profitable? what's so profitable about it? it's fishy.

People convicted in Abramoff probe
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There you go again with the big "IS" without any proof, which in turn make your post a falsehood. Using Abramoff and DeLay won't get you off the hook neither. You might think there is something fishy but that does not equal money laundering.
Either you admit to IMO, which requires no proof but also means nada, or you prove your post and take it to the legal authority. There is not a third option.
 
Only 9% of the results are in.
 
Reba said:
We just finished voting at 7 p.m. Those results are awfully quick. Five minutes? :hmm:
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You still don't believe there is such a thing as vote hacking? Oh well.
 
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