Deaf VR counselor arrested by undercover cops for child cybersex case

[Throwstones]

tulsaworld.com: News

BA man, employed by state, charged in child cybersex case

A Broken Arrow man who worked for a state agency helping deaf people find jobs is accused of trying to meet and have sex with a person he thought was a 13-year-old girl, whom he had met on the Internet, reports show.

Kirby J. Hodges, 48, was arrested Feb. 22 at a Norman convenience store.

He was charged one day later with attempted abduction of a minor for lewd purposes, making an indecent proposal to a minor and using his computer to further the alleged crime, court records show.

Hodges has been suspended from his job at the Tulsa offices of the state Department of Rehabilitation Services, spokeswoman Jody Harlan said Thursday. He has worked for the department for 21 years, she said.

"He is suspended with pay pending the outcome of that investigation," she said. "If there's evidence of wrongdoing, then we'll take immediate action."

Hodges has been a vocational rehabilitative specialist for the department. Deaf himself, he focused on working with deaf clients, Harlan said.

"Eighteen percent of our staff have disabilities," she said. "It's a way of practicing what we preach."

Hodges is free on $5,000 bond. He is scheduled to return to Cleveland County District Court on March 6, records show.

 

[EagleCherokee63]

Yes, Right! It broke my heart! I knew him 24 yrs! OHH man, I cant believed it already bad LABEL!! Many deaf people in Tulsa paged me said YOUR TOWN in Norman He arrested last Friday. I read it I shocked that near gas station he arrested near my house about 1 or 2 miles last Friday night ah! He will come court in Norman, Ok on March 5th Tuesday 9 am. He lived in Nebraska.
I lived Tulsa, OK. He was attended the membered with my church before in '80.

I thought he was good man everything and had a wife and 3 kids. PPOOOORR their 3 kids! and wife! He is going fired his work and installer vp.

 

[Throwstones]

I have known him since 1982. He is my VR counselor too. I am very upset and miserable to hear about his arresting by undercover cops who is pretending 13 years old and fooled him out through computer! I feel that the cops/fbi should not play fire with people's mind on computer. Also I blame on computer which controlling everything on people's mind and ruin their life! I believe that cops look for money $$$$$$$$$$$ and not care about ppl's life and mind.

Kirby is nice man and has a deaf wife and children. He has a house and nice cars. He works so hard to help deafies to find job and send money to their colleges etc.

 

[EagleCherokee63]

I have known him since 1982. He is my VR counselor too. I am very upset and miserable to hear about his arresting by undercover cops who is pretending 13 years old and fooled him out through computer! I feel that the cops/fbi should not play fire with people's mind on computer. Also I blame on computer which controlling everything on people's mind and ruin their life! I believe that cops look for money $$$$$$$$$$$ and not care about ppl's life and mind.

Kirby is nice man and has a deaf wife and children. He has a house and nice cars. He works so hard to help deafies to find job and send money to their colleges etc.

Yes but..... You would think second that children's protector!!

 

[InTheGenes]

I have known him since 1982. He is my VR counselor too. I am very upset and miserable to hear about his arresting by undercover cops who is pretending 13 years old and fooled him out through computer! I feel that the cops/fbi should not play fire with people's mind on computer. Also I blame on computer which controlling everything on people's mind and ruin their life! I believe that cops look for money $$$$$$$$$$$ and not care about ppl's life and mind.

Kirby is nice man and has a deaf wife and children. He has a house and nice cars. He works so hard to help deafies to find job and send money to their colleges etc.

Throwstones, the authorities may have baited him, but HE was the one (allegedly) who make the decision to have inappropriate discussions with someone who he thought was 13 years old. And... his COMPUTER didn't control his mind and ruin his life... he is 100% responsible for his own actions. His computer was merely a tool he employed to commit a crime (again, allegedly, at this point). You may as well blame his CAR for taking him to the scene of the crime, if you're going to go about blaming inanimate objects for the criminal activities of a person.

He may have been a nice man, and has a deaf wife and children... but what if one of his own CHILDREN were the victim of someone looking for some "action". Let's not forget that - if the report is to be believed - he was under the impression that the person he was talking to was 13 years old! And he was prepared to have sex with "her"!

Not OK, I don't care how "nice" he is/was, or HOW many children he has.

 

[Throwstones]

Throwstones, the authorities may have baited him, but HE was the one (allegedly) who make the decision to have inappropriate discussions with someone who he thought was 13 years old. And... his COMPUTER didn't control his mind and ruin his life... he is 100% responsible for his own actions. His computer was merely a tool he employed to commit a crime (again, allegedly, at this point). You may as well blame his CAR for taking him to the scene of the crime, if you're going to go about blaming inanimate objects for the criminal activities of a person.

He may have been a nice man, and has a deaf wife and children... but what if one of his own CHILDREN were the victim of someone looking for some "action". Let's not forget that - if the report is to be believed - he was under the impression that the person he was talking to was 13 years old! And he was prepared to have sex with "her"!

Not OK, I don't care how "nice" he is/was, or HOW many children he has.

I agree with you part Understandingly, the computer is very dangerous to anyone because it can be leading them into wrong way on computer/internet by manipulate like scammers, hackers, & pretenders, etc. For example, the child can be lied to adult by her/his age like saying i am 20 years old and would like to get a dating with you. But that person did not know that child is under minor on online. How can you know which one???? Also, it can be hackers to stir ppl's life up!

Speaking of Kirby's characteristic, he is nice man to deaf people in VR office. But in some way he does not socalize with deaf people for years. He barely attend special events like sunday soupers, and any meetings. He also has a BA degree and MA Degree. I thought he is smart to defend himself but what is wrong with his mind???? Is he waking up?

 

[Reba]

I agree with you part Understandingly, the computer is very dangerous to anyone because it can be leading them into wrong way on computer/internet by manipulate like scammers, hackers, & pretenders, etc.

I don't think a 48-year-old married man can be "manipulated" into wanting to meet a 13-year-old girl for sex.

For example, the child can be lied to adult by her/his age like saying i am 20 years old and would like to get a dating with you. But that person did not know that child is under minor on online.

The whole point of these sting operations is that the perp believes the other party is underage. The perp arranges a meeting, expecting an underage child to show up. That clearly shows the perp's intent.

Besides, even if this "nice" man thought he was meeting a 20-year-old woman, he is married, right? That doesn't seem "nice" to me.

 

[Throwstones]

I don't think a 48-year-old married man can be "manipulated" into wanting to meet a 13-year-old girl for sex.



The whole point of these sting operations is that the perp believes the other party is underage. The perp arranges a meeting, expecting an underage child to show up. That clearly shows the perp's intent.

Besides, even if this "nice" man thought he was meeting a 20-year-old woman, he is married, right? That doesn't seem "nice" to me.

Reba, you are right. He is committed adultery by his showing clearly on. I am very sorry for him if he is frustrated with his wife for their marriage problem.

 

[Throwstones]

Kirby remind me of King David who fell in sinning while he was adultery with solider's wife before he murdered him. Then he was busted by prophet's statement from GOD about solider's murdering. His wife got pregnant from King David but her first baby son died is because of David's sinning showed! He got really embrassed and had to forgive what He is doing. Then he repented & had a wife to get pregnant second and born a son named Solomon before he was next generation king.

 

[EagleCherokee63]

Reba, and Throwstones, I had no idea how his wife feeling about his adultery. It biggest embrassed! Maybe I will go see him in Norman Court next week. I bet my former preacher is grief! because everywhere public the news Oklahoma bad his label and picture now.

 

[christlovedeaf]

yeah, friend of mine paged me about this incident and broke my heart. What happen was, it wasn't undercover cop doing in the computer. It was regular adult to bait the person. Been told that posing 13 yr old been persistant to entice him. He want that to stop, but it goes on, just like by saying " Temptations lurking in the shadow toward to the Pearly Beacon." I don't agree when someone trying to manipulate to play the person to entice or tempting a person. It's like it's ok for kids to be against the adult's will. Everything going out of hand. Yes, tho, we shouldn't look down a person what he did. But pray for him and his family for healing. Not all are predators are actually predators, bec news medias and one sided stories and etc tainted the person reputations. That's their job to do and motivate and encourage to increase paranoia on people. Right now, it is hard to tell who is not really predators (accuse or alledge) and the real predators. Mostly, if minors actually chatting with the adult online, I'm blaming on the parents by not keeping an eye on. Bec I have been told and they get irritating by minors attacking and trying to beg adult for sex. That's where the law should be done about. It is the parents responsibility to keep an eye on the kids. I saw the movie about teenagers have been hooked on porns. So that I say, it need to be done about that.

 

[EagleCherokee63]

yeah, friend of mine paged me about this incident and broke my heart. What happen was, it wasn't undercover cop doing in the computer. It was regular adult to bait the person. Been told that posing 13 yr old been persistant to entice him. He want that to stop, but it goes on, just like by saying " Temptations lurking in the shadow toward to the Pearly Beacon." I don't agree when someone trying to manipulate to play the person to entice or tempting a person. It's like it's ok for kids to be against the adult's will. Everything going out of hand. Yes, tho, we shouldn't look down a person what he did. But pray for him and his family for healing. Not all are predators are actually predators, bec news medias and one sided stories and etc tainted the person reputations. That's their job to do and motivate and encourage to increase paranoia on people. Right now, it is hard to tell who is not really predators (accuse or alledge) and the real predators. Mostly, if minors actually chatting with the adult online, I'm blaming on the parents by not keeping an eye on. Bec I have been told and they get irritating by minors attacking and trying to beg adult for sex. That's where the law should be done about. It is the parents responsibility to keep an eye on the kids. I saw the movie about teenagers have been hooked on porns. So that I say, it need to be done about that.

Ohh really someone paged you whoa! it already BOMBED SPEARD OUT!!!!

 

[Throwstones]

yeah, friend of mine paged me about this incident and broke my heart. What happen was, it wasn't undercover cop doing in the computer. It was regular adult to bait the person. Been told that posing 13 yr old been persistant to entice him. He want that to stop, but it goes on, just like by saying " Temptations lurking in the shadow toward to the Pearly Beacon." I don't agree when someone trying to manipulate to play the person to entice or tempting a person. It's like it's ok for kids to be against the adult's will. Everything going out of hand. Yes, tho, we shouldn't look down a person what he did. But pray for him and his family for healing. Not all are predators are actually predators, bec news medias and one sided stories and etc tainted the person reputations. That's their job to do and motivate and encourage to increase paranoia on people. Right now, it is hard to tell who is not really predators (accuse or alledge) and the real predators. Mostly, if minors actually chatting with the adult online, I'm blaming on the parents by not keeping an eye on. Bec I have been told and they get irritating by minors attacking and trying to beg adult for sex. That's where the law should be done about. It is the parents responsibility to keep an eye on the kids. I saw the movie about teenagers have been hooked on porns. So that I say, it need to be done about that.

I am second to Christlovedeaf

 

[Reba]

yeah, friend of mine paged me about this incident and broke my heart. What happen was, it wasn't undercover cop doing in the computer. It was regular adult to bait the person. Been told that posing 13 yr old been persistant to entice him. He want that to stop, but it goes on, just like by saying " Temptations lurking in the shadow toward to the Pearly Beacon." I don't agree when someone trying to manipulate to play the person to entice or tempting a person. It's like it's ok for kids to be against the adult's will. Everything going out of hand. Yes, tho, we shouldn't look down a person what he did. But pray for him and his family for healing. Not all are predators are actually predators, bec news medias and one sided stories and etc tainted the person reputations. That's their job to do and motivate and encourage to increase paranoia on people. Right now, it is hard to tell who is not really predators (accuse or alledge) and the real predators. Mostly, if minors actually chatting with the adult online, I'm blaming on the parents by not keeping an eye on. Bec I have been told and they get irritating by minors attacking and trying to beg adult for sex. That's where the law should be done about. It is the parents responsibility to keep an eye on the kids. I saw the movie about teenagers have been hooked on porns. So that I say, it need to be done about that.

Adults don't "accidentally" begin chatting with minors (or people they believe to be minors") about sexual topics. If an adult is NOT a predator, why is he going to chat rooms that cater to teens?

It's like an alcoholic going into a bar. If he's trying to avoid drinking, why does he go into a bar? Can he blame the bartender if he offers him a drink?

I don't care how suggestively or persistently a teen chats; the adult has absolutely no business going into that chat room in the first place.

If he's on a non-teen forum, like AllDeaf, and a young person sends a suggestive pm, the adult needs to nip that in the bud, immediately. He must notify the administrator and block that person, even after just one pm.

No one gets "trapped" into becoming a predator. That's a bunch of hooey.

BTW, I'm not talking about one bad person stealing a good person's identity, or using someone else's computer. I'm talking about someone who actually arranges to meet a young person for sex, shows up, and gets arrested. There is no excuse for that behavior. The person who sat down, and keyed those dirty messages is responsible and guilty.

 

[Nesmuth]

I hope they do this in California. It's long overdue for this kind of cleanup.

Richard

 

[Throwstones]

my friend's comment here by pager

After night we talked our vp. I figured it which one was wrongdoing
both
Kirby and Norman Fbi ... my opinion both are wrong once equal cuz of
Kirby sceretly chat by via online with 13 years old girl behind of
herself adult tested him until he seriously came into Norman n met her
with Lwcd n plus etcs then Why he accpeted to drove n face with her in
a
person why not he dismissed away from her cuz her 13 ages without
willingly drive by his protect will happen to lead but ( still count )
cuz he dangerously drove n met her home his darest... ouchy n Fbi
wrongdoing tested him lead to came here n blame him look for bad his
name a crime put into jail, lost everything his jobs, n family...
Kirby vs Norman Fbi are tie out if discussing that situation none sue
cuz both are equal... he obvious eagered to met her n Fbi flattered a
test his willingly involve his crime cuz of YOUNG'S AGES from under
school very dangerous move on n went along met her mystery ... why not
he negelct n save himself drive but no good loose n Fbi duty work for
criminal of Lwcd, sex offender, molster, prongraphy, n etcs all involve
with young girls they purpose if men willingly meet that DNAGEROUS! so
Fbi arrest them before block young girls's computers if it is true they
come n hurt or enjoyment sex. You see... both compare with of this
different two sides. That roughest one in the case nothing win we can't
support him cuz of this quote.

 

[christlovedeaf]

Adults don't "accidentally" begin chatting with minors (or people they believe to be minors") about sexual topics. If an adult is NOT a predator, why is he going to chat rooms that cater to teens?

It's like an alcoholic going into a bar. If he's trying to avoid drinking, why does he go into a bar? Can he blame the bartender if he offers him a drink?

I don't care how suggestively or persistently a teen chats; the adult has absolutely no business going into that chat room in the first place.

If he's on a non-teen forum, like AllDeaf, and a young person sends a suggestive pm, the adult needs to nip that in the bud, immediately. He must notify the administrator and block that person, even after just one pm.

No one gets "trapped" into becoming a predator. That's a bunch of hooey

BTW, I'm not talking about one bad person stealing a good person's identity, or using someone else's computer. I'm talking about someone who actually arranges to meet a young person for sex, shows up, and gets arrested. There is no excuse for that behavior. The person who sat down, and keyed those dirty messages is responsible and guilty.

**** Not always on teen chat, teen go into to fake age into adults. It similar as, if 4 people in the car, one doesnt like drugs. It is happening in many places, 3 of them were smoking pot, one doesn't, bec can't stand it but tho he himself didnt know they were taking it with them, he was arrested along with them as possessions. I begin to increase to listening on both side. And what I agree, it is easy for someone who doesn't experience or clean slate person to put into word by saying, it is no excuse or whatever it is. Bec many more people by saying discover themselve if happen to them, by saying, hey, that's not fair and begin to realize it gone overboard. Bec there are many many people may realize they thought they didn't do illegally and it is too late. It's broad and long explanation, bec my brother used to work at the hot dog stand at the courthouse and he learned alot and couldn't believe his own eyes how the law works. Legal system fail big way, mostly they are after the innocent than the actual criminals. I have heard and learned that the percentage is still growing higher of criminals which they aren't actual criminals. 40 to 50 percent of them are not actual criminals. Many have commit suicide bec noone listen, bec by saying" I heard that before, you are like everyone else". No one knows whats behind close door in the legal system, even myself. It's lt's like a movie, there are many true stories about how detective or dirty cops are doing. I have several friends who were formerly police officers and couldn't bear and couldn't believe their own eyes and quit. And there are many churches have police officers ministry to aid them their strained. Bec it's like hell in there without any of us knows.

 

[Throwstones]

I am blaming on undercovers cops, detective or FBI for setting up to Kirby and tempted him to fell into sinning.

 

[christlovedeaf]

Oh, the other thing is this, few years ago, I'm not there anymore. I was overseers for moderator one of the chat room. It is adult room, one claimed to be in the 20's and one came up on pvt message and said he is 15, i automatically report to mod, immediately banned the person. Many kids are doing that, and it is no excuse for kids doing that toward adult against personal will inspite of ages. It has to be stop and it is parents responsibilty to block the chat room and i dont care what age and the parents should find out if their kids fake their ages to cause adult in trouble.

 

[Throwstones]

Oh, the other thing is this, few years ago, I'm not there anymore. I was overseers for moderator one of the chat room. It is adult room, one claimed to be in the 20's and one came up on pvt message and said he is 15, i automatically report to mod, immediately banned the person. Many kids are doing that, and it is no excuse for kids doing that toward adult against personal will inspite of ages. It has to be stop and it is parents responsibilty to block the chat room and i dont care what age and the parents should find out if their kids fake their ages to cause adult in trouble.

AMEN... I agree with Christlovedeaf. There is no law for kids to lie ages to adults on online! How can we get protection on ourselves before something happened to us???? We feel that we need to complain to our US Senators and Congress about amending the laws for our protection!