Future iPhone for Deaf people

xbgmer said:
deafclimber, I respect your opinon that you rather stick to 3G. that is cool.. I am little confuse , how about BLACKBERRY 8700 series as (8705, 8707 up) is fully capably tethered to laptop too. they are running on EDGE!?

Perhap, someday I get device with 3G.. who knows..
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ok

if you see att or Tmobile's BBs, all come with EDGE because RIM hasn't released HSDPA BB yet. RIM should release HSPDA BB in late Summer or early Fall or later.

Verizon and Sprint have BB with EVDO connections currently. They are lucky to have that type. :)

yes, you can tether the laptop to BB or PDA or Treo with EDGE connection. that is what i do my laptop to my PDA with EDGE on travel. it works just fine. EDGE runs much faster in any wireless network on rural roads or alone highways.
 
XBGMER said:
Remind: I aint come here to get you guys to flame in this thread. I am here to listen and learn. :)

Deafclimber, BINGO! Many thanks for clarify this explain of what does 3G stand for. I am still learning new words and new things, never toolate! ;)

deafclimber, I respect your opinon that you rather stick to 3G. that is cool.. I am little confuse , how about BLACKBERRY 8700 series as (8705, 8707 up) is fully capably tethered to laptop too. they are running on EDGE!?

Perhap, someday I get device with 3G.. who knows..

Pac, I respect your opinion about Google maps is not match with EDGE.

GPS/ GOOGLE MAPS running on MY BB with EGDE is definitely smooth, pretty fast and no crash. But it loading little bit long.. its worth! GPS/ or GOGlE map fully capable with BB than nothing, is that correct?!

I heard rumors said danger work on sk will run on google map or GPS.. But FACT, I aint buy Danger's promised words, because sk is not running on EDGE, but STILL running GSM/ GPRS.
for instance as of concept:

SK' GSM/GPRS IS MORE LIKE 56K DIAL UP
BB' EDGE IS DSL
BLACKJACK'3G IS HIGHSPEED

You correct me if I am wrong?
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Finally for use BB!! I understand you love sidekick but network technology is outdated.

This is wireless.

This is for max speed.
GPRS = General Packet Radio System (up to 114 kbps)
EDGE = Enhanced Data GSM Environment (up to 560 kbps)
UMTS = Universal Mobile Telephone Service (up to 2 Mbps)

Around speed for now.
GSM 114kps
EDGE 384kbps


This is wired.
Low DSL 1.5mpbs
High DSL 3.0mpbs
Low Cable 6mbps
High Cable 15mbps

1mbps = around 1,000 kbps
 
Neo said:
Finally for use BB!! I understand you love sidekick but network technology is outdated.

This is wireless.

This is for max speed.
GPRS = General Packet Radio System (up to 114 kbps)
EDGE = Enhanced Data GSM Environment (up to 560 kbps)
UMTS = Universal Mobile Telephone Service (up to 2 Mbps)

Around speed for now.
GSM 114kps
EDGE 384kbps


This is wired.
Low DSL 1.5mpbs
High DSL 3.0mpbs
Low Cable 6mbps
High Cable 15mbps

1mbps = around 1,000 kbps
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Don't forget to add high DSL's speed is 6.0 mbps, replace from other into medium.
 
deafclimber said:
ok

if you see att or Tmobile's BBs, all come with EDGE because RIM hasn't released HSDPA BB yet. RIM should release HSPDA BB in late Summer or early Fall or later.

Verizon and Sprint have BB with EVDO connections currently. They are lucky to have that type. :)

yes, you can tether the laptop to BB or PDA or Treo with EDGE connection. that is what i do my laptop to my PDA with EDGE on travel. it works just fine. EDGE runs much faster in any wireless network on rural roads or alone highways.
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Damn, UK is lucky because 3G is already released.

BB 8800g in TMobile UK is 3G since BB 8800 in TMobile USA is EDGE (2G).
 
deafclimber said:
USA already has 3G(Verizon, Sprint, ATT and Alltel) if you dont know that. only Tmobile USA hasnt released its own 3G network.
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I know, I'm just talking about TMobile in UK.

No wonders about TMobile in USA is later than others.
 
Neo said:
This is for max speed.
GPRS = General Packet Radio System (up to 114 kbps)
EDGE = Enhanced Data GSM Environment (up to 560 kbps)
UMTS = Universal Mobile Telephone Service (up to 2 Mbps)
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you forget to add better and faster networks - WiMAX, EVDO and HSDPA. :cool:
 
deafclimber said:
you forget to add better and faster networks - WiMAX, EVDO and HSDPA. :cool:
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Sure...

HSDPA (High-Speed Downlink Packet Access)
High-Speed Downlink Packet Access (HSDPA) (Sometimes known as High-Speed Downlink Protocol Access) is a 3G mobile telephony protocol in the HSPA family, which provides a roadmap for UMTS-based networks to increase their data transfer speeds and capacity. Current HSDPA deployments now support 1.8 Mbit/s, 3.6 Mbit/s, 7.2 Mbit/s and 14.4 Mbit/s in downlink.
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EVDO (Evolution-Data Optimized)
Compared to the EDGE networks employed by GSM networks, the EV-DO feature of CDMA2000 networks is significantly faster, providing access to mobile devices with air interface speeds of up to 2.4 Mbit/s with Rev. 0 and up to 3.1 Mbit/s with Rev. A. HSDPA a competing technology for W-CDMA, along with the new Qualcomm Rev A modems have the ability to maintain both circuit switched voice and packet data calls from the same radio, this functionality is not available in Qualcomm Rev. 0 chipsets.
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WiMax (Worldwide Interoperability for Microwave Access)
A commonly held misconception is that WiMAX will deliver 70 Mbit/s, over 30 miles (48 kilometers). Each of these is true individually, given ideal circumstances, but they are not simultaneously true. In practice this means that in line-of-sight environments you could deliver symmetrical speeds of 10 Mbit/s at 10 km but in urban environments it is more likely that 30% of installations may be non-line-of-sight and therefore users may only receive 10 Mbit/s over 2 km. WiMAX has some similarities to DSL in this respect, where one can either have high bandwidth or long reach, but not both simultaneously. The other feature to consider with WiMAX is that available bandwidth is shared between users in a given radio sector, so if there are many active users in a single sector, each will get reduced bandwidth. However, unlike SDSL where contention is very noticeable at a 5:1 ratio (if you are sharing your connection with a large media firm for example), WiMAX does not have this problem. Typically each cell has a whole 100 Mbit/s backhaul so there is no contention here. In practice, many users will have a range of 2-, 4-, 6-, 8- or 10 Mbit/s services and the bandwidth can be shared. If the network becomes busy the business model is more like GSM or UMTS than DSL. It is easy to predict capacity requirements as you add customers. Additional radio cards can be added on the same sector to increase the capacity.
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According on Wikipedia
 
deafclimber said:
you forget to add better and faster networks - WiMAX, EVDO and HSDPA. :cool:
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you forget GOD, it's way beyond of us!!! omg!!! not.

I can't imagine that iPhone would have a long way to download the video to watch. That's why it got Wi-fi and have to search to find spot to download. ugh.
 
PowerON said:
I can't imagine that iPhone would have a long way to download the video to watch. That's why it got Wi-fi and have to search to find spot to download. ugh.
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well as i said before in other posts, you can watch movie streaming on any PDA or TREO(with EDGE connection) through myorb.com(MyCast your digital media with Orb 2.0 remote pc access software) from my home. i am sure iphone with EDGE connection is no problem with any compressed movies with subtitles in myorb.com.
 
PowerON said:
you forget GOD, it's way beyond of us!!! omg!!! not.

I can't imagine that iPhone would have a long way to download the video to watch. That's why it got Wi-fi and have to search to find spot to download. ugh.
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I don't think that Apple will offers like that, only require to sync via PC or Mac to download tv shows or movies from iTune then transferring into iPhones.
 
deafclimber said:
well as i said before in other posts, you can watch movie streaming on any PDA or TREO(with EDGE connection) through myorb.com(MyCast your digital media with Orb 2.0 remote pc access software) from my home. i am sure iphone with EDGE connection is no problem with any compressed movies with subtitles in myorb.com.
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will see about it.. I have know how steaming handle on my treo to see several trailer. It can be lasp by time and time. I doubt about EDGE would do job, depend which major city and network and whatever people would become whore download from data.
 
PowerON said:
will see about it.. I have know how steaming handle on my treo to see several trailer. It can be lasp by time and time. I doubt about EDGE would do job, depend which major city and network and whatever people would become whore download from data.
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*sigh* that is fine with me if you dont believe in EDGE's performaces. EDGE is far better than CDMA when you are out of metro with 3G(EVDO or HSDPA) for traveling.







(currently i m watching Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon the movie streaming with subtitle on my pda with EDGE connection through myorb.com.)
 
deafclimber said:
*sigh* that is fine with me if you dont believe in EDGE's performaces. EDGE is far better than CDMA when you are out of metro with 3G(EVDO or HSDPA) for traveling.


(currently i m watching Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon the movie streaming with subtitle on my pda with EDGE connection through myorb.com.)
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hey hey don't get wrong idea. I used to have Nokia with EDGE under Cingular a year ago. The only thing I get is fair speed where I'm at. The high speed I have ever experience is in Atlanta, GA and Chattanooga, TN.
 
PowerON said:
hey hey don't get wrong idea. I used to have Nokia with EDGE under Cingular a year ago. The only thing I get is fair speed where I'm at. The high speed I have ever experience is in Atlanta, GA and Chattanooga, TN.
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that is cool. :cool:
 
deafclimber said:
*sigh* that is fine with me if you dont believe in EDGE's performaces. EDGE is far better than CDMA when you are out of metro with 3G(EVDO or HSDPA) for traveling.
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Wait wait! CDMA is just radio channel as itself. EVDO is under CDMA network and HSDPA under UMTS network (UMTS from GSM or W-CDMA) <-not sure

EDGE from GSM network.

I used had Treo650 with EDGE before. It was alright and little slow for loading the pictures on internet and Google maps.
 
Neo said:
Wait wait! CDMA is just radio channel as itself. EVDO is under CDMA network and HSDPA under UMTS network (UMTS from GSM or W-CDMA) <-not sure

EDGE from GSM network.

I used had Treo650 with EDGE before. It was alright and little slow for loading the pictures on internet and Google maps.
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yes that is correct, pal. UMTS and HSDPA are under GSM that are used for audio and data connection together. you can surf online on your device at same times as you talk on phone. that is how some wireless GSM carriers provide video share(video calling).

EVDO is for data connection only and CDMA is for radio connection only. what connection would it be if you have EVDO device and you go out of metro ? the device's connection is changed from EVDO to CDMA.

correct me if i am wrong about switching connection if you are out of evdo metro- from EVDO to CDMA, pls. :)

so now my previous point before you, neo, pointed out is when you travel around usa or rural roads outside metro. EDGE's network is more speeding in everwhere than CDMA's network if you happen to surf online like your laptop is tethered to your pda or treo.

so now can we go back to iphone topic, please ? thanks. :)
 
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