Toddler's Temper Ousts Family From Plane

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Eve said:
..I took my kids to Disneyland via ROADTRIP. That way, no one other than my own family had to be subjected to my kids unruly behavior. That is just common courtesy and respect for others.


My response to another member was simply one where it mentioned: 'journeys'...therefore, not specifying the method of transportation...meanwhile...I'm aware that a roadtrip is one way to go, but surely might not be always a good thing when such a trip is a very long one whether it's common courtesy or not.





~RR
 
Eve said:
Fine, but no one else deserves to be subjected to their tantrums. They aren’t the one’s who spread their legs and brought those kids into the world, that is YOUR responsibility.

There's nothing wrong with taking advices from children's pediatricians. Why do you think most parents read 'parents magazines' too, they read and find advices how to HELP your own child, What to EXPECT when having a baby, etc.

Kuifje75 said:
Simple solution to the whole problem:

Don't take children with you on your journeys! It will make everything so much better.

That's your best solution? Yet, you don't even have kids of your own, It's best to walk the miles in a parent shoe to experience the role of being a parent.

Kuifje75 said:
If I had a child who had bad tantrums all the time, I would not spoil him by taking him to Disneyland but punishing him in his room

Again, You don't have kids, What do you know what's it is like to be a parent? Toddlers always throw temper tantrums when they are unable to express themselves, that's why all the outbursts and frustrations, they get. Like I said, You gonna walk the miles in their shoes to understand their emotions.
 
I have seen so many parents being dumb about their kids. They all think that their children are angels, but in truth, the children can be the biggest nightmare to other people around. Some parents are totally blind to that. "ohhh but that sweet little girl doesn't know any better, she's only three after all!" I am sorry, but that parent is dumb cos he failed in teaching the child something about travelling.

When I was a child, I would scream all the time. But my parents taught me that it was very bad and punished me all the time. Eventually I learned and stopped screaming when I was young like 3 or 4. I appreciate my parents taking ownership of the situation rather than making excuses for me that I am deaf and don't know any better.





??? I don't see what this has to do with my reply whatsoever. Anyhow, peace out.





~RR
 
That's your best solution? Yet, you don't even have kids of your own, It's best to walk the miles in a parent shoe to experience the role of being a parent.

Sure I don't have kids, but even if I had kids, I wouldn't subject them to long travel and subject my fellow passengers on my kids.

Again, You don't have kids, What do you know what's it is like to be a parent? Toddlers always throw temper tantrums when they are unable to express themselves, that's why all the outbursts and frustrations, they get. Like I said, You gonna walk the miles in their shoes to understand their emotions.

That is your answer? I have travelled with my best friend's kids and know what it is like. thank god, they were well behaved and trained for travelling.
 
That is your answer? I have travelled with my best friend's kids and know what it is like. thank god, they were well behaved and trained for travelling.

It's not the same thing as traveling with your best friend's kids, You haven't been with them 24/7 have you?
 
Toddlers are well behaved? hmmm ....:ugh3:
 
Offer lollipop is not solve... Accord my link, No wonder that a girl suffer ear pain or want to sit her mother's lap to comfort than worry about lollipop... All what the stewardness do is get her to sit on the seat accord airline's rules... Yes, normally they should follow the rules to get 3 years old to sit on the seat but Stewardness must to get airliner permission before allow 3 years old to sit on parent's lap... Why can't they do that then? It was happeend to me before... with my son Alan accord his ear infection. No problem.


Hon,

It's the airline policy that everyone inculding their children are required to sit in their seats when the plane take off and land...The child can sit in their parent's lap once the airplane is up in the sky .....We have to follow rules that just the way it is .... I'm sorry
 
Eve said:
And to allow a child to hit you? Ppffftttt


No but I don't spank my child in public because I'll be arrest for child abuse... This isn't 1980s anymore....
 
Hon,

It's the airline policy that everyone inculding their children are required to sit in their seats when the plane take off and land...The child can sit in their parent's lap once the airplane is up in the sky .....We have to follow rules that just the way it is .... I'm sorry

When I was flying out to Oklahoma, I've seen a toddler on the lap of the mother's during the take off, with seat belts. I thought that was allowed. :dunno:
 
Toddlers are well behaved? hmmm ....:ugh3:

SOME toddlers are well-behaved. Not all of them, dependin' on the parents who trained their toddlers to behave. Some parents don't train their toddlers to behave well. It's why there's a parentin' class to help the parents how to raise their child.
 
When I was flying out to Oklahoma, I've seen a toddler on the lap of the mother's during the take off, with seat belts. I thought that was allowed. :dunno:


If the toddler is under the age of 2 then they are allowed to sit on their parents lap but if they're above the age of 2, they are required to be in a seat....

Most airlines has this policy for safety reasons....
 
If the toddler is under the age of 2 then they are allowed to sit on their parents lap but if they're above the age of 2, they are required to be in a seat....

Most airlines has this policy for safety reasons....

Ahh I see. Thanks sis! ;)
 
hmm wow I read this story .. wonder wish that in flight have coloring book and crayon (sp) to sit on the seat and belt on while to coloring when it is take off on the flight??

I never been on flight before :)
 
SOME toddlers are well-behaved. Not all of them, dependin' on the parents who trained their toddlers to behave. Some parents don't train their toddlers to behave well. It's why there's a parentin' class to help the parents how to raise their child.

Some?? I haven't seen at least one well-behave toddler not one. how come there's books, magazines, articles about all toddlers throws temper tantrums, and more, why do they call age of 2, terrible 2's? I believe there are some that don't throw temper tantrums too often while others who go through it everyday. It depends on their frustrations. It has nothing to do with how parent's parenting.

Forgot to add: I know what I'm talking about because I used to work at the Daycare twice, and I worked with toddlers and infants. ;)
 
RoadRunner said:
My response to another member was simply one where it mentioned: 'journeys'...therefore, not specifying the method of transportation...meanwhile...I'm aware that a roadtrip is one way to go, but surely might not be always a good thing when such a trip is a very long one whether it's common courtesy or not.
Yes, it is a matter of respect for others. If you can’t make your child behave, then don’t subject others to their tantrums. And if you must go on a trip, go by car. And if that is not feasible, simply DON’T GO!

Cheri said:
There's nothing wrong with taking advices from children's pediatricians. Why do you think most parents read 'parents magazines' too, they read and find advices how to HELP your own child, What to EXPECT when having a baby, etc.
Your doctor’s advice is fine and dandy when it is not impeding with someone else’s sanity, especially 112 other passengers held captive audience to your child’s misbehavior.

Cheri said:
That's your best solution? Yet, you don't even have kids of your own, It's best to walk the miles in a parent shoe to experience the role of being a parent.
Cheri said:
Again, You don't have kids, What do you know what's it is like to be a parent? Toddlers always throw temper tantrums when they are unable to express themselves, that's why all the outbursts and frustrations, they get. Like I said, You gonna walk the miles in their shoes to understand their emotions.
I’m a parent. Deafee is a parent. We both agree with Kootchie because we have respect for our fellow travelers and don’t expect them to tolerate the behaviors of our children which we are responsible for maintaining. Now what?

RoadRunner said:
??? I don't see what this has to do with my reply whatsoever. Anyhow, peace out.
well, let’s first examine your original reply…
RoadRunner said:
Hmmm...so much for Disneyland, DisneyWorld, among other famous 'family' attractions???
Kootchie was only making reference to those children who are incapable of behaving while traveling in the company of others. My reply was directly related, in that if the child is not capable of flying, then there are other modes of transportation available. If those other modes are not feasible, then Kootchie’s statement has much more merit.

Cheri said:
It's not the same thing as traveling with your best friend's kids, You haven't been with them 24/7 have you?
I have been with my kids 24/7/365/13+ years and I would never force you or anyone else to sit through one of their tantrums in a confined space such as an airplane.

^Angel^ said:
Toddlers are well behaved? hmmm ....
Some are, some aren’t, but it is our responsibility as parents to ensure that our toddlers behavior does not negatively affect those around us.

^Angel^ said:
It's the airline policy that everyone inculding their children are required to sit in their seats when the plane take off and land...The child can sit in their parent's lap once the airplane is up in the sky .....We have to follow rules that just the way it is .... I'm sorry
EXACTLY!

^Angel^ said:
No but I don't spank my child in public because I'll be arrest for child abuse... This isn't 1980s anymore....
I agree, but there is always the bathroom.

Cheri said:
When I was flying out to Oklahoma, I've seen a toddler on the lap of the mother's during the take off, with seat belts. I thought that was allowed.
Maybe that child was 2 or under.

^Angel^ said:
If the toddler is under the age of 2 then they are allowed to sit on their parents lap but if they're above the age of 2, they are required to be in a seat....

Most airlines has this policy for safety reasons....
Right, what Angel said.

Deafmonkey said:
hmm wow I read this story .. wonder wish that in flight have coloring book and crayon (sp) to sit on the seat and belt on while to coloring when it is take off on the flight??
From the sounds of it, nothing would have worked with this child.

^Angel^ said:
I'm sorry but I don't buy that at all...
It’s true, I have heard rumor of such children existing. Unfortunately, mine weren’t that way. BUT, my children never behaved on a plane like that without having an abrupt end put to their tantrum. I will go out of my way to ensure that my children are never an imposition on others.
 
I have been with my kids 24/7/365/13+ years and I would never force you or anyone else to sit through one of their tantrums in a confined space such as an airplane.

Let's not forget Eve, their tantrums do not go on for a long period of time, they get over it eventually in a short period of time. What do you say about a baby crying on a plane?, I've seen that happened before and yet, I don't see the airline assistant booting that party off the plane.
 
Sorry Eve I don't believe in rumors I believe in what I see....And it's seem to me you think you have the answer to EVERYTHING, but you don't, got to learn people don't see things alike, so why don't ya respect that! hmmm....
 
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