Don't tell me that deaf people are poor tippers, please....

Yeah, watch yer mouth, son.
 
Reba said:
Take it easy.

That's what I referred to. That is, I already answered the question for myself before your post.

We both answered it the same, just different posts. I guess you didn't see mine before posting your link. That's all.
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Oh, please accept my apology. I thought you were disagreeing with me, my bad.

By the way, I inserted the same link on post #60. I guess you didn't read it before you posted your links.

However, the state min wages vary. For more info, U.S. Department of Labor - Wage & Hour Divisions (WHD) - Minimum Wages for Tipped Employees

It shows that the state of California requires all restaurant owners to pay waiters/resses at least $8 per hr and the state law doesn't allow tip credit, even though their employees receive tips which are taxable incomes under IRS.
 
I would like to point out that it's not necessary to bitch about bad tippers whether they are deaf or not. I am a great tipper and I never bitch about bad tippers. Just let them be. Don't waste your breath on them cuz they will not listen to your complaint.
 
CrazyPaul said:
Oh, please accept my apology. I thought you were disagreeing with me, my bad.

By the way, I inserted the same link on post #60. I guess you didn't read it before you posted your links.
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I totally did miss that post. I'm sorry. Flipping back and forth between postings I do sometimes miss posts, especially the ones at the bottom of pages.

Shall we start over anew? :)
 
CrazyPaul said:
I would like to point out that it's not necessary to bitch about bad tippers whether they are deaf or not. I am a great tipper and I never bitch about bad tippers. Just let them be. Don't waste your breath on them cuz they will not listen to your complaint.
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ah you're one of "do nothing" group.

I will let them be if they don't want to accept it after I bring it up to them and that's just a damn shame.
 
More like hyperventilating concerning other parties you're not even a part of. None of our business.
 
kokonut said:
More like hyperventilating concerning other parties you're not even a part of. None of our business.
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not "strangers". group. friends. colleagues.

funny how one is quibbling about "Bystander Effect" and yet... encouraging it now... :hmm:
 
CrazyPaul said:
I would like to point out that it's not necessary to bitch about bad tippers whether they are deaf or not. I am a great tipper and I never bitch about bad tippers. Just let them be. Don't waste your breath on them cuz they will not listen to your complaint.
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I think people are trying to educate others, not put them down. Some people honestly might not understand how tipping is supposed to be done. They might appreciate a little instruction (if done the right way).
 
Reba said:
I think people are trying to educate others, not put them down. Some people honestly might not understand how tipping is supposed to be done. They might appreciate a little instruction (if done the right way).
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And that's fine. When done right. But if it's a really bad service on the part of the waitstaff, well, that's another story when it comes to on how much to tip.
 
kokonut said:
And that's fine. When done right. But if it's a really bad service on the part of the waitstaff, well, that's another story when it comes to on how much to tip.
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If it's really bad service, one should report it to the manager, either in person, or thru email (including the details of time and which server).

If a server is really bad, he or she probably won't "learn" anything from a tiny tip. If anything, they'll just think that the diner was a cheapskate. It's also possible that what seemed to be bad service could have been a simple misunderstanding, or something that was beyond the scope of the server's responsibilities. By not addressing the situation directly, one will never know.
 
Reba said:
If it's really bad service, one should report it to the manager, either in person, or thru email (including the details of time and which server).

If a server is really bad, he or she probably won't "learn" anything from a tiny tip. If anything, they'll just think that the diner was a cheapskate. It's also possible that what seemed to be bad service could have been a simple misunderstanding, or something that was beyond the scope of the server's responsibilities. By not addressing the situation directly, one will never know.
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Yes, and that's when you have that opportunity afterwards and follow thru it. I have no problem with that and people should try and do that. Yet, the dinner experience was diminished when people expected good service. I don't blame them for putting out a little amount of tip. But then again, not my business. Not gonna hyperventilate on how other people tip. Educate, sure. Hyperventilate and point fingers? Nah.
 
kokonut said:
And that's fine. When done right. But if it's a really bad service on the part of the waitstaff, well, that's another story when it comes to on how much to tip.
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kokonut said:
Yes, and that's when you have that opportunity afterwards and follow thru it. I have no problem with that and people should try and do that. Yet, the dinner experience was diminished when people expected good service. I don't blame them for putting out a little amount of tip. But then again, not my business. Not gonna hyperventilate on how other people tip. Educate, sure. Hyperventilate and point fingers? Nah.
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major contradiction to your Post #127.

calm down. you're hyperventilating. deep slow breath.
 
I don't feel comfortable telling a friend "hey, don't forget to leave a tip". The friend would think I am being bossy. Kokonut is right. It's not our business. People know about tips but they make their choice. Receiving small or no tips is not the end of the world for the food servers, at least their employers make up the difference as required.
 
I like giving good tips of the service was good. if the server does an exceptional job, will tip even more. if the server is lazy and does a horrible job I leave bad tip and make a complaint. If I have to actually demand a manager be brought to the table because of a bad server I will. several times servers have lost their jobs. I once read a waitresses' lips as she bragged to another server that she spat in my food. that disgusting pig!
 
CrazyPaul said:
I don't feel comfortable telling a friend "hey, don't forget to leave a tip". The friend would think I am being bossy. Kokonut is right. It's not our business. People know about tips but they make their choice. Receiving small or no tips is not the end of the world for the food servers, at least their employers make up the difference as required.
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Suppose a server works 40 hours per week at $3.50/hr. but the minimum wage for that state is $8/hr. If the server got no tips, he would earn $140.
A 40-hour week at minimum wage would be $320. The owner would have to pay an additional $180/wk. That would not be a happy owner.

Now, suppose another server makes the $140/wk plus tips that average $10/hr or $400/wk. That means the owner doesn't have to pay that server anything extra, and it means the server takes home even more pay ($540/wk). The owner likes that.

Now, suppose yet another server makes the $140/wk plus only $100/wk tips. The owner would have to pay $80/wk extra, and he wouldn't like that. The server would still get only the minimum wage.

Servers that don't make the owners happy are more likely to either get their hours cut or to be fired.

So, the tips have more impact on their lives than what might first be evident.

In other words, it is a big deal to them.

If the server isn't earning enough tips due to his own poor work, that's one thing. If he isn't earning enough tips due to cheapskate customers, that's another.
 
C.C.Sinned said:
... I once read a waitresses' lips as she bragged to another server that she spat in my food. that disgusting pig!
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:shock: That's not only disgusting, it's illegal. She could be arrested, and the restaurant could be shut down (at least in SC). Owners/managers will not put up with that.

I found a stray hair in my food once, and the manager cancelled our bill.

I have very short salt-and-pepper hair, as does TCS, and it was a long blonde hair, so I know it wasn't ours. :giggle:

However, at a Cracker Barrel (which we only go to if a group invites us; it's not our choice), it was a different story. TCS found the dispenser parts to the drink machine at the bottom of his drink glass. The only thing he got was a fresh drink (fresh, not free). :lol:

BTW, why did the server spit in your food?
 
CrazyPaul said:
I don't feel comfortable telling a friend "hey, don't forget to leave a tip". The friend would think I am being bossy. Kokonut is right. It's not our business. People know about tips but they make their choice. Receiving small or no tips is not the end of the world for the food servers, at least their employers make up the difference as required.
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that's fine. you go ahead and sit with do-nothing group while I educate them on etiquette of tipping. if they still don't care, well then I'll know not to hang out with that person.
 
C.C.Sinned said:
I like giving good tips of the service was good. if the server does an exceptional job, will tip even more. if the server is lazy and does a horrible job I leave bad tip and make a complaint. If I have to actually demand a manager be brought to the table because of a bad server I will. several times servers have lost their jobs. I once read a waitresses' lips as she bragged to another server that she spat in my food. that disgusting pig!
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At least you don't hyperventilate when it comes to tipping. But I'd certainly be PO-ed and enraged if I caught a wait staff or cook who spit into my food. Heck, anybody would. Makes ya wonder what goes behind the walls in the kitchen. :shock:
 
Jiro said:
that's fine. you go ahead and sit with do-nothing group while I educate them on etiquette of tipping. if they still don't care, well then I'll know not to hang out with that person.
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You won't hang out with bad tippers, I think that's stupid.
 
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