Do you guys embrace your hearing loss/deafness?!

rolling7 said:
Silly, illogical post. Get rid of audism and the deaf child still CAN'T hear the birds sing, the wonderful sound of the waterfalls and perhaps someday the child's own baby's first cry.
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So? Why do you think any of that is necessary for a full and satisfying life?

Your own audism is blatant in this post.
 
If I were to have another child and this child was born deaf, I would be very happy.

Now to answer the OP's question - do I embrace my deafness? Well, I don't jump up and down for joy and run around chanting slogans but I think just the fact that I accept myself as I am is a big deal.
 
DeafCaroline said:
If I were to have another child and this child was born deaf, I would be very happy.

Now to answer the OP's question - do I embrace my deafness? Well, I don't jump up and down for joy and run around chanting slogans but I think just the fact that I accept myself as I am is a big deal.
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Accepting yourself as you are is a form of embracing, I believe. You incorporate it into the whole. There are those that spend their lives fighting against it. It really is kind of sad to watch.
 
dogmom said:
rolling, but to think that those examples HAVE to matter to a child who has never heard them, or matter at all - that's audism-

to think that there is less "wonder" and beauty in the world if one isn't hearing those things - that audism-

to focus on "can't" - that's audism-
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No, that is discrimination. Just to say: "too bad you can't enjoy what I can"
is hurtful. Children are very inquisitive and will certain be able to know that they are not able to enjoy what others are. Think of it this way, no doubt the most important question any parents have to be concern about is the child asking: "why can't I talk like everyone else?"

Yes, a deaf child can still experience many wonders of life. Those beauties are for everyone to enjoy, however there are children, not only the deaf child, not able to take those beauties into their life. I don't say this as something "bad" not "negative" but as a fact of life.
 
rolling7 said:
No, that is discrimination. Just to say: "too bad you can't enjoy what I can"
is hurtful. Children are very inquisitive and will certain be able to know that they are not able to enjoy what others are. Think of it this way, no doubt the most important question any parents have to be concern about is the child asking: "why can't I talk like everyone else?"

Yes, a deaf child can still experience many wonders of life. Those beauties are for everyone to enjoy, however there are children, not only the deaf child, not able to take those beauties into their life. I don't say this as something "bad" not "negative" but as a fact of life.
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Where do you think discrimination comes from? It comes from an attitude of one person being lesser than another person for some illogical and superficial reason. Discrimination comes from audism. Discrimination comes from racism. Discrimination comes of sexism. Discrimination comes from ageism. Discrimination comes from homophobia. It is the belief of "lesser than" that makes the discrimination possible.

My deaf son has never once asked "why can't I talk like everyone else." Only a child raised in a completely audist environment would ever have reason to even ask such a question. That question is indicative of horrible parrenting.
 
jillio said:
My deaf son has never once asked "why can't I talk like everyone else." Only a child raised in a completely audist environment would ever have reason to even ask such a question. That question is indicative of horrible parrenting.
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I have asked that when my kids were young and teased me about my speech.

I didn't have horrible parenting, and I was a good parent also.

I doubt I am the only one.
 
Look at it this way. Long ago women and blacks were discriminated in life. Each had the capability to enjoy life to its fullest. But because of terrible laws they were not allow to. Once the laws were changed, they had equal opportunity to all of live's pleasures.

However, the deaf child (and it is NOT exclusive the deaf) can not be said to be equally capable of enjoying all of life's goodness. That is a fact of life. We all can do our own part to fight against discrimination in life but somethings are beyond our control. In such situations, there is no discrimination but acceptance of the nature of life.
 
rolling7 said:
Look at it this way. Long ago women and blacks were discriminated in life. Each had the capability to enjoy life to its fullest. But because of terrible laws they were not allow to. Once the laws were changed, they had equal opportunity to all of live's pleasures.

However, the deaf child (and it is NOT exclusive the deaf) can not be said to be equally capable of enjoying all of life's goodness. That is a fact of life. We all can do our own part to fight against discrimination in life but somethings are beyond our control. In such situations, there is no discrimination but acceptance of the nature of life.
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Strongly disagreed. There is plenty of discrimination... "Normal" people still don't accept disabled people, so with same D/deaf people. That is why we still don't get some equal opportunity. What about GLBT people, too? You don't even mention them...

If gay people have their equal rights, they wouldn't have to drive up to Canada or at outside of USA to get marriage... If one gay person is pregnant and is about to give a birth, another one wouldn't have to leave a room and lose a chance to see her/his child. I can go on...
 
Bottesini said:
I have asked that when my kids were young and teased me about my speech.

I didn't have horrible parenting, and I was a good parent also.

I doubt I am the only one.
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Interesting. Never came up with my kid. Maybe a different degree of focus on speech.:dunno2:
 
rolling7 said:
Look at it this way. Long ago women and blacks were discriminated in life. Each had the capability to enjoy life to its fullest. But because of terrible laws they were not allow to. Once the laws were changed, they had equal opportunity to all of live's pleasures.

However, the deaf child (and it is NOT exclusive the deaf) can not be said to be equally capable of enjoying all of life's goodness. That is a fact of life. We all can do our own part to fight against discrimination in life but somethings are beyond our control. In such situations, there is no discrimination but acceptance of the nature of life.
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You are such an audist. Yes, the deaf child and the deaf adult can be said to be capable of enjoying all of life's goodness. Your statement is nothing more than your own audist perspective.
 
Bottesini said:
He isn't likely to tell you. I don't think my stepmother has any idea.
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He asked me things like why he couldn't hear like other people, or why people teased him about not being able to hear. Just not why he couldn't speak like others. In fact, I can't remember any deaf child asking me that, including the ones I have seen professionally. Not saying it couldn't happen, or that it didn't happen. Just saying I have never encountered it.
 
A lot of deaf people are protecting their parents. That's backwards because the parent is supposed to protect the kid. I believe that a person should tell their parents the truth, even if it hurts the parents. Honesty is important. I understand the motivation, but it seems like an unhealthy way to deal with things.
 
jillio said:
He asked me things like why he couldn't hear like other people, or why people teased him about not being able to hear. Just not why he couldn't speak like others. In fact, I can't remember any deaf child asking me that, including the ones I have seen professionally. Not saying it couldn't happen, or that it didn't happen. Just saying I have never encountered it.
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That just an adult carrying on the idea of being teased to what would have been the solution.

He asked you about the first part.
 
Bottesini said:
That just an adult carrying on the idea of being teased to what would have been the solution.

He asked you about the first part.
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Yeah, he asked me about the first part. Speech never came up. I'm not sure I understand what you are saying.
 
jillio said:
You are such an audist. Yes, the deaf child and the deaf adult can be said to be capable of enjoying all of life's goodness. Your statement is nothing more than your own audist perspective.
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Silly illogical post. Go ahead and ask the deaf child if he n she can hear the bird sing, the sound of the waterfall and/or laughter. For the child who is deaf, these pleasures of life are physically impossible without aids. Audism has nothing to do with physically impossible. I'm just being realistic, something you should try.
 
rolling7 said:
Silly illogical post. Go ahead and ask the deaf child if he n she can hear the bird sing, the sound of the waterfall and/or laughter. For the child who is deaf, these pleasures of life are physically impossible without aids. Audism has nothing to do with physically impossible. I'm just being realistic, something you should try.
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:jaw:
 
But if a person was born deaf, they would never get to hear cars with turbocharged engine go VROOOOM!!!! That is one disadvantage of being deaf. I wish I had an opportunity to hear car with turbocharged engine going at speed of rocket.
 
There is nothing the person who lost their hearing or born deaf or hard of hearing will never hear the "normal" hearing. She or he may heard something but it is very faint when it come with mild or severe hearing loss. That is why we need to accept deafness and live with it for the rest of our lives. Hearing aids and CIs are not able to help them hear sound clearly and it is always noises often. With CI, I learned that they only hear like a robot sound which is not normal hearing. They can hear sounds that they can make out but not that clearly and won't be able to hear that far if you are talking about birds singing or the waterfall. They need to come close up enough to hear noise but not clearly. You just can not bring "normal" hearing the way you want deaf child or hard of hearing child to have a normal hearing. But the way you say that you want and wish for the deaf child to hear normal. That will never happen.
 
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