Child crying while CI being activated...

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Older.

How old were you when you got a CI?
 
Beach girl said:
Dispute what? I'm sure he's going to face a tough time as a deaf teenager.
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so why subject him to that when it can be prevented?

Beach girl said:
I dispute that he's necessarily going to be "miserable."
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miserable? does it matter? miserable. rough. agonizing. difficult. pick anything that satisfy you.
 
'zackly. You don't use one, right?

So why judge this little boy and his family?
 
Huh?

And was that "exactly"? I'm not familiar with what you used.
 
Oh ok. I hadn't seen that one before. Thanks. (It's the same number of letters and punctuation?)
 
Beach girl said:
Older.

How old were you when you got a CI?
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I don't want to get into this fight, but if he needs to have CI to comment, shouldn't you need to be born deaf to comment?

You were not born deaf, nor have CI.

So Banjo at least has half the qualifications you seem to be trying to require.
 
Beach girl said:
Dispute what? I'm sure he's going to face a tough time as a deaf teenager. I dispute that he's necessarily going to be "miserable."
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Beach Girl -

What some of us are saying is that as you (I hope) have read on this very forum a lot of accounts expressing their experiences. A lot of these experiences has tons of sameness.

I take offense at saying or seeing "Lets see what happens." The reason is... Most likely the sameness we read on this forum (and hear about in person in our interactions with other deaf people) will happen to the same people others say "oh, why not leave them and lets see what happens."

If you know how to make things better for any given circumstance in life, do you take action to make things better or tell people to leave it be and see what happens?

This topic we're discussing - the teenager years, and the discovering one's identity, etc... Is all part of a loop that has been ongoing. Over and over. It needs to stop.

Also I don't like hearing "Oh all teenagers have a rough time.." That is true, but in a way it's invalidating the experiences of the deaf teenagers just because you think it's the same as a hearing teenager's experience.

Even I have hard time explaining how I truly felt in certain circumstances while I grew up. I still see my own mother being an audist - and I have to point these things out to my own mother. When she gets all pissed off when I TRY my best by pointing it out very nicely - I still feel defeated.

I am actually a part of an organization that aims to change this point of view with a movie. I am trying to make some changes. My goal is to stop the "Lets see what happens" line of thinking, also to see the person for who they are - a human being.
 
So you think his life will be better without a CI, with no ability to hear anything at all?

This conversation just seems to be going in circles. Jiro agreed that no, it would not be better to not be able to hear at all.

So what would be the alternative, then? If this little boy was a candidate for a CI, then clearly hearing aids would not have helped him. His parents had two options: give him a CI, and some hearing, (albeit not really natural, and not like a hearing person's hearing), and continue with English, Spanish, and ASL...

or -

give him nothing at all, let him grow up only with ASL, no access to hearing, and a much tougher time learning Spanish and English.

And I guess that's what you are saying would be preferable?

At any rate, reading the comments from what appears to be his father under the second video, posted just a week ago, his family is very happy with his progress and says he is happy and learning more all the time. If they are happy, and the child is happy and learning, that's all to the good, right?

If he should decide at some point he doesn't want to hear, he can choose that. But if the reverse were true, if they didn't give him access to some hearing, he could never go back and have this period of childhood language acquisition all over again.
 
Beach girl said:
So you think his life will be better without a CI, with no ability to hear anything at all?

This conversation just seems to be going in circles. Jiro agreed that no, it would not be better to not be able to hear at all.
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nope. I've said no such thing.

Beach girl said:
So what would be the alternative, then? If this little boy was a candidate for a CI, then clearly hearing aids would not have helped him. His parents had two options: give him a CI, and some hearing, (albeit not really natural, and not like a hearing person's hearing), and continue with English, Spanish, and ASL...

or -

give him nothing at all, let him grow up only with ASL, no access to hearing, and a much tougher time learning Spanish and English.

And I guess that's what you are saying would be preferable?

At any rate, reading the comments from what appears to be his father under the second video, posted just a week ago, his family is very happy with his progress and says he is happy and learning more all the time. If they are happy, and the child is happy and learning, that's all to the good, right?

If he should decide at some point he doesn't want to hear, he can choose that. But if the reverse were true, if they didn't give him access to some hearing, he could never go back and have this period of childhood language acquisition all over again.
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why do you bother asking this same question over and over again? our answer remains same. I've posted links above for you to reread threads that you've already participated in. Feel free to re-read our answers in there.

are you going to keep asking this same question until we all share same view as you?
 
Beach girl said:
So you think his life will be better without a CI, with no ability to hear anything at all?

This conversation just seems to be going in circles. Jiro agreed that no, it would not be better to not be able to hear at all.

So what would be the alternative, then? If this little boy was a candidate for a CI, then clearly hearing aids would not have helped him. His parents had two options: give him a CI, and some hearing, (albeit not really natural, and not like a hearing person's hearing), and continue with English, Spanish, and ASL...

or -

give him nothing at all, let him grow up only with ASL, no access to hearing, and a much tougher time learning Spanish and English.

And I guess that's what you are saying would be preferable?

At any rate, reading the comments from what appears to be his father under the second video, posted just a week ago, his family is very happy with his progress and says he is happy and learning more all the time. If they are happy, and the child is happy and learning, that's all to the good, right?

If he should decide at some point he doesn't want to hear, he can choose that. But if the reverse were true, if they didn't give him access to some hearing, he could never go back and have this period of childhood language acquisition all over again.
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As long as he is exposed to ASL and interacts with the Deaf community, then he will most likely not have all the issues many of us experienced growing up in a restricitve hearing-only environment.
 
shel90 said:
As long as he is exposed to ASL and interacts with the Deaf community, then he will most likely not have all the issues many of us experienced growing up in a restricitve hearing-only environment.
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will you be able to remember this for next time, beach girl?
 
Beach girl said:
Nope, no chance of that.

(Woops - that was response to Jiro.)
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can you please use "QUOTE" button so that nobody gets confused?

btw - what's "that"?
 
Beach girl said:
It's just slang, not for formal communication.
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it's phonetic as well... something that hearies can understand. probably not a good idea to use it in deaf forum.
 
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