Schools Fight Families Over Autism Service Dogs

If you are referring to the original article, it seems that it is a certified service dog.
you don't sound so certain.

I didn't see where it said the dog was certified.
same here, jillio.

if the dog is a certified service dog... no establishment can refuse a person with service dog. It appears that this dog in article is a companion dog rather than a certified service dog otherwise... we wouldn't have this kind of problem especially at schools.
 
you don't sound so certain.


same here, jillio.

if the dog is a certified service dog... no establishment can refuse a person with service dog. It appears that this dog in article is a companion dog rather than a certified service dog otherwise... we wouldn't have this kind of problem especially at schools.

It appears Levi is certified

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BTw why didn't you include all of this..... :hmm:

Because it doesn't alter my point, or the goals and purpose of using a therapeutic animal for a person with autism. But if you feel the need to include it, be my guest. Doesn't alter anything, but does provide evidence of your intention to nit pick rather than contribute purposefully to the discussion.
 
A service animal need not be certified by anybody according to the ADA...

It would be nice if they did and certificate-people were paid by the government to run around and given certs out to home-trained dogs.

This incident was in Canada. They are not bound by our ADA.
 
While it doesn't explicitly state the dog is a "certified service animal", if you read the article in it's entirety you'll see that the dog functions on more than one level for the child. I recall reading that the service animal must assist in at least two areas for it to be considered a service dog. So, in the case referenced at the start of this thread, it is a service dog.
 
While it doesn't explicitly state the dog is a "certified service animal", if you read the article in it's entirety you'll see that the dog functions on more than one level for the child. I recall reading that the service animal must assist in at least two areas for it to be considered a service dog. So, in the case referenced at the start of this thread, it is a service dog.

no I do not care for what you believe that should be qualified as a service dog. This legal system does not operate on what you believe in or what you feel like. If it's the law, then it's a law. Plain and simple.

If this dog is a certified service dog... then this dog is protected by federal law but in this article, it appears that the dog is not certified. You don't have to raise a ruckus in here. You can simply end it all by proving that this dog is certified rather than defending on what you believe should be right. Simple.
 
This is from the official government website. Of course it is a service dog. There is not a requirement for licensing or certification by state or local government.

This is law.

: The ADA defines a service animal as any guide dog, signal dog, or other animal individually trained to provide assistance to an individual with a disability. If they meet this definition, animals are considered service animals under the ADA regardless of whether they have been licensed or certified by a state or local government.

Commonly Asked Questions About Service Animals in Places of Business
 
While it doesn't explicitly state the dog is a "certified service animal", if you read the article in it's entirety you'll see that the dog functions on more than one level for the child. I recall reading that the service animal must assist in at least two areas for it to be considered a service dog. So, in the case referenced at the start of this thread, it is a service dog.

Meh, even the link she provided calls them service dogs. My link says he Levi had a vest and papers. *shrug*

While autism service dogs are new, they are proving to be very helpful to children with autism. The thing to remember is that the dog must be task trained to specifically help your child, in order to be given protection under the ADA.

Below are 7 ways that an autism service dog could benefit your child in school and out of school:

1. The dog can assist children with autism safely access different environment’s. This could help your child become more independent and also help with transitions, which can be difficult for children with autism.

2. The dog can be a calming influence and give a sense of security to your child.

3. The dog can actually help your child focus on academic and social tasks. The reason that this happens is not known by many trainers of these service dogs, but it is a good side effect.

4. The dog can be tethered to your child to prevent the child from wandering away, which a lot of children with autism are prone to do.

5. The dog can actually track and search for your child if the child does wander away (if the child is not tethered). This takes out a lot of parents fear about their child getting lost in school or public places.

6. The dog can try and stop a child’s repetitive behavior by nudging the child. This does take specific training for the dog on what your child’s behaviors are. But the hope is that the child will much rather pet the dog than continue the repetitive behavior.

7. Another positive side affect of having a dog is that it appears to help the child become more social with their peers. Again the trainers of these dogs do not know why this happens, but the dog does seem to help the child engage more in social activity.

Several organizations have sprouted up that train dogs with special service dog certification for this purpose. Several names are: 4 Paws for ability, Autism Service Dogs of America, and Dogs for autism.

Autism Service Dog

Since this is new, maybe you just can't teach an old dog new tricks. :dunno:

You can always visit the cute Autism Doggies on Facebook

Canada since Levi is Canadian
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This is from the official government website. Of course it is a service dog. There is not a requirement for licensing or certification by state or local government.

This is law.



Commonly Asked Questions About Service Animals in Places of Business

It would be in person's best interest to get their animal certified to avoid headache. From your post

The ADA defines a service animal as any guide dog, signal dog, or other animal individually trained to provide assistance to an individual with a disability. If they meet this definition, animals are considered service animals under the ADA regardless of whether they have been licensed or certified by a state or local government.

why go thru headache and legal issue just to argue whether or not if your animal meet "this definition" as service animal? Get it certified and everything is peachy.
 
no I do not care for what you believe that should be qualified as a service dog. This legal system does not operate on what you believe in or what you feel like. If it's the law, then it's a law. Plain and simple.

If this dog is a certified service dog... then this dog is protected by federal law but in this article, it appears that the dog is not certified. You don't have to raise a ruckus in here. You can simply end it all by proving that this dog is certified rather than defending on what you believe should be right. Simple.

Just FYI.... Levi is in Canada


This is from the official government website. Of course it is a service dog. There is not a requirement for licensing or certification by state or local government.

This is law.



Commonly Asked Questions About Service Animals in Places of Business

I agree. Clearly Autism dogs ARE service dogs.
 
Just FYI.... Levi is in Canada
I was referring to OP. It took place in Chicago.

I agree. Clearly Autism dogs ARE service dogs.
I'm fine with any animal being certified as service animal for any problem if it's helpful for a person with any problems and meets ADA requirement.

If your ant is a certified animal for your emotional needs... fine by me! :lol:
 
I was referring to OP. It took place in Chicago.


I'm fine with any animal being certified as service animal for any problem if it's helpful for a person with any problems and meets ADA requirement.

If your ant is a certified animal for your emotional needs... fine by me! :lol:

Well for the first dogs obviously the courts agreed that the dogs were service animals.

Ant :lol:
 
It would be in person's best interest to get their animal certified to avoid headache. From your post



why go thru headache and legal issue just to argue whether or not if your animal meet "this definition" as service animal? Get it certified and everything is peachy.

Just so you know.. There is no certification for hearing dogs.
 
Just so you know.. There is no certification for hearing dogs.

Any hearing dog placed by a guide school, is then certified...

like I posted before ... cert does nothing really.

Only Dogs and a specific type of monkey are now service animals... (see- Change in ADA law)
 
Any hearing dog placed by a guide school, is then certified...

like I posted before ... cert does nothing really.

Only Dogs and a specific type of monkey are now service animals... (see- Change in ADA law)

Under ADA law, it doesn't matter.
 
My hearing dog was certified, but I never showed her certification based on the principle of the matter until AFTER I had won whatever battle I had to fight about it. For example if a store manager would demand to see her certification I would then educate him that certification is not legally required for service dogs and it is also illegal to deny access to a person with a service dog whether or not they had certification. Only until they conceded to me did I show them my certification.
 
My hearing dog was certified, but I never showed her certification based on the principle of the matter until AFTER I had won whatever battle I had to fight about it. For example if a store manager would demand to see her certification I would then educate him that certification is not legally required for service dogs and it is also illegal to deny access to a person with a service dog whether or not they had certification. Only until they conceded to me did I show them my certification.

Perfect!!!
 
It would be in person's best interest to get their animal certified to avoid headache. From your post



why go thru headache and legal issue just to argue whether or not if your animal meet "this definition" as service animal? Get it certified and everything is peachy.

Not every area or type of service dog has certification guidelines. And certification guidelines between different trainers/organizations can vary widely.

In addition, some dogs *can* be trained at home (though it is often better when done by or with the guidance of a professional) and, because of the home-training, might be less likely to be certified. Let's say you've trained this uncertified dog to alert you to a changing blood sugar or an impending seizure or something. If it does its job reliably without being unruly, defecating inside, biting everything in sight, etc, it's not less of a service dog just because it's not certified.
 
Not every area or type of service dog has certification guidelines. And certification guidelines between different trainers/organizations can vary widely.

In addition, some dogs *can* be trained at home (though it is often better when done by or with the guidance of a professional) and, because of the home-training, might be less likely to be certified. Let's say you've trained this uncertified dog to alert you to a changing blood sugar or an impending seizure or something. If it does its job reliably without being unruly, defecating inside, biting everything in sight, etc, it's not less of a service dog just because it's not certified.
it's actually that simple. think big picture - get it certified by state or local government and problem's solved.
 
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