Oral school

Is it ok?

  • Yes

    Votes: 19 29.7%

  • No

    Votes: 31 48.4%

  • Maybe or sometimes

    Votes: 14 21.9%
  • Total voters
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kokonut said:
The brain's plasticity in early development does act as a "sponge". It's the old "use or lose it" adage when it comes to this window of opportunity.



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In short, it's easier to pick up things when you're a child than an adult. Adults continue to learn, of course but it's not the same thing when compared to a child's brain. Which is why late-deafened adults do well with hearing aids and cochlear implants than those who remain deaf all their life and not use the input sound and word on a daily basis to keep the brain "stimulated" which is why the high failure rates among deaf people who do not acquire the proper aural skill early on.
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Easier, not impossible. Nor does it mean that the brain does not remain plastic. TBI victims have shown us that for any number of years. Plasticity has to do with the brain's adaptability.

The key is exposure. Deny an infant, from the moment of their birth, exposure to a language in a mode that they can perceive, and you have created a delay.

High failure rates of what? Speaking? And whether you realize it or not, the use of sign stimulates the brain in exactly the same way spoken language stimulates the brain. What...you think the brain goes stagnant without sound?
 
deafdyke said:
Being technology dependant is just as bad as "being dependant on a 'terp"
(whatever that means)
Tecnology is not perfect. It will never create total and complete equality. Heck, I'm only hoh and while I like the fact that hearing aids give me some abilty to hear, they still don't give perfect equality.
doubletrouble........that's awesome that your son has done so well.....and I agree. If more parents were like you the oral vs sign debate wouldn't even exist.
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We're all dependent on technology in every aspect of our lives. Technology has increasingly (and this is proven) level the ground when it comes to communication. Technology continues to change rapidly and improve. It wouldn't be long til we have glasses that come with an embedded CC onto the lens and the ability to effectively use speech recognition and convert instantly into scrolling CC onto the glasses. There is no telling where technology will go.

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deafbajagal said:
Many hearing kids cannot even speak! The speech therapy sessions are overloaded in public schools.

How in the world are we to expect deaf kids to master perfect speech when many of their own hearing peers cannot?

Hmmm.
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There is no such thing as perfect speech. Please move on beyond that simple concept.
 
More pipe dreams. I am reminded of something my father used to say. "Live with one foot in yesterday, and one foot in tomorrow, and you piss all over today,"
 
The definition of "plasticity":

During the baby's first three years of life, the brain experiences a growth spurt (i.e. "sponge" effect) and races to create hundreds of trillions of pathways to connect these neurons, giving the brain its greatest capacity for change, known as plasticity.

Act Early Against Autism: Give Your ... - Google Book Search

These children have access to this "sponge" and not so in older people and adults. They learn but certainly not at the capacity, speed and level as children from age 1, 2, 3, 4, or even 5 years old. The link talks about audism it explains very well on what plasticity is all about from the perspective of a child....not about adults.
 
kokonut said:
The definition of "plasticity":

During the baby's first three years of life, the brain experiences a growth spurt (i.e. "sponge" effect) and races to create hundreds of trillions of pathways to connect these neurons, giving the brain its greatest capacity for change, known as plasticity.

Act Early Against Autism: Give Your ... - Google Book Search

These children have access to this "sponge" and not so in older people and adults. They learn but certainly not at the capacity, speed and level as children from age 1, 2, 3, 4, or even 5 years old. The link talks about audism it explains very well on what plasticity is all about from the perspective of a child....not about adults.
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And the capacity for change is also known as adaptability. The key word here is change, not absorb.:roll:
 
Technology moves fast folks.

You saw it with cochlear implants. Digital hearing aids. Speech recognition. Closed Captioning. Artificial intelligence. Multi-core computer chips that will quickly change the face of technology. Memory storage. Nanotechnology. And so on. What was technology like exactly 10 years ago in 1999. Compare that today with what you have now. What will it be like in 10 years from now? Believe me, it changes fast. And with deaf/hh children it'll benefit them the greatest with what we didn't have 20, 30 or 40 years ago. A whole new generation of kids raised on technology and communication. That's real change. Real adaptability. Younger kids are more attuned to technology that older adults who are not familiar even with computers today. Amazing. For children because of their plasticity has a huge, huge advantage over this when it comes to their own brain's plasticity. They have ability to absorb information much more readily than do adults. It's a fact and nothing can change that. Early intervention is key and the 3, 4 or even 5 (albeit late) year window is a critical opportunity using the brain's very own very plastic stage for development and communication.

Which is why, folks, that technology will increasingly play a role in all this for deaf and hh children. That is UNDENIABLE...and in many cases, unavoidable.
 
I say let's give them equality in education and job opportunity no matter what their hearing status is. Now that's real change.
 
In many ways technology has made life for deaf people difficult.

Take the telephone.
 
jillio said:
Easier, not impossible. Nor does it mean that the brain does not remain plastic. TBI victims have shown us that for any number of years. Plasticity has to do with the brain's adaptability.

The key is exposure. Deny an infant, from the moment of their birth, exposure to a language in a mode that they can perceive, and you have created a delay.

High failure rates of what? Speaking? And whether you realize it or not, the use of sign stimulates the brain in exactly the same way spoken language stimulates the brain. What...you think the brain goes stagnant without sound?
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I just love the Maslow talk. It has been proven for many generations. :D
 
kokonut said:
The definition of "plasticity":

During the baby's first three years of life, the brain experiences a growth spurt (i.e. "sponge" effect) and races to create hundreds of trillions of pathways to connect these neurons, giving the brain its greatest capacity for change, known as plasticity.

Act Early Against Autism: Give Your ... - Google Book Search

These children have access to this "sponge" and not so in older people and adults. They learn but certainly not at the capacity, speed and level as children from age 1, 2, 3, 4, or even 5 years old. The link talks about audism it explains very well on what plasticity is all about from the perspective of a child....not about adults.
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:confused: Autism and Audism are not the same thing.
 
deafbajagal said:
In many ways technology has made life for deaf people difficult.

Take the telephone.
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made it difficult?

:confused:

I thought it made it better for the deaf to communicate. One can not talk and hear on the the telephone. but the ability to do so, started out with the phone.

With the VP and MVP. BB, SK, texting. just about everyone uses those as well. and the Internet, E mails and such. Seems more people are using those that speaking over the phone now a days.


They all started out VIA telephone.
 
jillio said:
I say let's give them equality in education and job opportunity no matter what their hearing status is. Now that's real change.
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That's my dream...who cares how one communicates..if they have the skills, the qualifications, and knowledge, they should be hired based on that, not based on how much they can hear and speak.
 
kokonut said:
Technology moves fast folks.

You saw it with cochlear implants. Digital hearing aids. Speech recognition. Closed Captioning. Artificial intelligence. Multi-core computer chips that will quickly change the face of technology. Memory storage. Nanotechnology. And so on. What was technology like exactly 10 years ago in 1999. Compare that today with what you have now. What will it be like in 10 years from now? Believe me, it changes fast. And with deaf/hh children it'll benefit them the greatest with what we didn't have 20, 30 or 40 years ago. A whole new generation of kids raised on technology and communication. That's real change. Real adaptability. Younger kids are more attuned to technology that older adults who are not familiar even with computers today. Amazing. For children because of their plasticity has a huge, huge advantage over this when it comes to their own brain's plasticity. They have ability to absorb information much more readily than do adults. It's a fact and nothing can change that. Early intervention is key and the 3, 4 or even 5 (albeit late) year window is a critical opportunity using the brain's very own very plastic stage for development and communication.

Which is why, folks, that technology will increasingly play a role in all this for deaf and hh children. That is UNDENIABLE...and in many cases, unavoidable.
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oh my, aren't you a dreamer.

what about those who decide not to use technology as an intervention?

why not focus on current situation rather than hoping and dreaming about the future? let's focus on what we can control....the environment. rather than depending on technology and if they will work on children. we need to stop using children as experiments.
 
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