Howsabout that $4.00 gas ? woo hoo - Page 4

purplecatty · 06-07-2008, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jiro123

Catty - how small of this engine would be? I imagine it's small enough for go-kart size. good luck and I envy you!

As long it's just 4 cycle pistoned engines. It can range from 4 cycle tiny model airplane engine up to Jaguar V12. If it runs on hydrogen and have good output (torque) to run then it's worth it Even if it runs on go-cart engine. Be sure it's 4 cycle type (For who are Mechanic Duh-Oh!, pistoned engine w/ sparkplug and have oil in it's pan for lubricating internal moving parts.). 2 cycle engine is BIG NO NO!!! U'll kill it in few seconds of run!! (How can u mix oil w/ Hydrogen gas duh!!). Also don't use it on Diesel engine!! It won't runs. If it runs then it may be weak.

I would start with my mower first like I did on E85 experiment. This is my "lab rat". I didn't care much about killing mower engine (Don't start with me on Inhumane abuse!!). I would find another one tho (got friends who have plenty of junkers). If it runs great on Hydrogen, then I would move on to next experiment, working "Lab Cow" (old car).. I am hoping I can find small cars like Geo Metro w/ 3 cylinder or LeCar (too have 3 cylinder) or find a friend who have "Lab Cow" car to mess with

. Or get used 4 cycle scooter (like 150cc up to 250cc) with plenty storage under the seat for reaction chamber. Motorcycle would be nice to experimet tho.

I can't promise if I would start my experiement soon. It's all depend on money I have. Economics sucks! Like I mentioned on recent post that I have 1/2 of electronic parts ready like IC chips, transistors, and few capacitors and need to order or find another 1/2 parts like small "hard to find" capacitors to build pulsewave generator. Those are the most expensive part of experiments.... Reaction chamber are cheap to build. I would have to ask my friend cut stainless steel plates and to weld stainless steel wire to stainless steel in order to complete the project. I would probably want to have 2 sets of screw-on caps w/ plates (one screw on-cap maybe have 4 plates while other screw-on may have 8 plates depending if it fits thru the hole of reaction chamber for better and faster reaction time to produce Hydrogen.

If I finished with building pulsewave generator and build Reaction chamber then I would have thread on Hydrogen. That's only AFTER I successfully getting mower running on Hydrogen (if it mows thick grass without dying out like E85 did before I found dirt covered jet on carb) ...

Catty

crankshaft · 06-07-2008, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by purplecatty

He probably look for someone who are wonk on Hydrogen and other alternative fuel. We all can learn and help even make suggestions. Being a team would help to get some of us motivated.

My friend recently AIM'd me that he was thinking about building electric car. I replied that it would cost him nearly $3000 if he can obtain parts from his work (he's a welder for garbage co.). I explained him that Hydrogen is cheaper to build than electric or cheap or free power source for car.

To build electric car, you'll need 6 or 8 banks of 12vdc deep cycle battieres, inverter (converts from DC to AC), Electric or Electronic speed control (can be obtain from forklift or PIE (powered industrial equiptment) manufacturer, thick cabled wires, ammeters, and high amperage fuse.

Electric motor can be around 25 to 100 hp depending on torque and voltage requirment to run the car even it's size (u don't want to drop in Elevator motor in car lol). Can be DC or AC. BUT there are ways to reduce weight by using Planetary gear which commonly in cordless drills (also corded too). Electric motor typically spins about 10,000 rpm or more, if using Plantetary gear, it'll reduce to 4,000 to 6,000 rpm but produces high torque rating that would be enough to run a car on highway speed even pass other cars. Also lighter weight too. For voltage to run electric motor, A/C is better than DC cuz it uses thinner wires on higher voltage than DC which use thicker wires.

I would guess building Hydrogen reactor and pulsewave generator would cost less than $500. Pulsewave generator will produce high amperage pulse for electrosys. Depending on number of plating and it's spacing. It depend if anyone have parts locally or online.

I have read about air powered car. But it requires big air tank and compressor to run a car. I have diagram on V8 air powered engine lol. It require lot modification on engine. Anyone who have machine shop and experience in welding would be lucky.

Hope that one of us would start the projects. I would want to start Hydrogen project but don't have enuf $$ to cover. I already bought 1/2 of electronics parts but need to find and order specific parts before I put it togther for Hydrogen experiment.

Catty

also there are multibillion dollar company working on it . and a friend of mine is working on it too as a investor.. and will not share which I dont blame them. everyone want to do it to make $..... so I wouldn't hold my breath....

***VamPyroX*** · 06-08-2008, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by dbarovian

Gasoline price may be up to $5.00 on Independence Day (Fouth of July).

Gee... if that happens, I won't have any fun cuz I spent all of my money on gas.

crankshaft · 06-08-2008, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by dbarovian

Gasoline price may be up to $5.00 on Independence Day (Fouth of July).

sad but true...

...

I read somewhere that if our government dont get their heads out of their azz.. our gas price might as they said *might* hit $12/Gal by next year... now u see how fast it esclades from last month to this month.... sheesh....

HorseRace · 06-08-2008, 02:41 AM

crank, if that happen, then usa might crash.. people cant go work then everything stop..

purplecatty · 06-08-2008, 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by crankshaft

also there are multibillion dollar company working on it . and a friend of mine is working on it too as a investor.. and will not share which I dont blame them. everyone want to do it to make $..... so I wouldn't hold my breath....

Yup, Interesting. Once it comes out. See what it look like LOL.

Catty

purplecatty · 06-08-2008, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by HorseRace

crank, if that happen, then usa might crash.. people cant go work then everything stop..

USA economic sputters and crassshhheed. People paaaniiiccc LOL. I'm sure that it's a fault of US Govt for not taking quick action to force car manufacter to build alternative energy cars or electric cars soon enuf. They have NOT learned lesson from 1973 oil crisis!! Now they're stuck to the bind that USA would definely crash unless They decide to release all supressed inventions to put it in use to help USA's economic.

LOL

Catty

Chevy57 · 06-08-2008, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by purplecatty

USA economic sputters and crassshhheed. People paaaniiiccc LOL. I'm sure that it's a fault of US Govt for not taking quick action to force car manufacter to build alternative energy cars or electric cars soon enuf. They have NOT learned lesson from 1973 oil crisis!! Now they're stuck to the bind that USA would definely crash unless They decide to release all supressed inventions to put it in use to help USA's economic.

LOL

Catty

True, I dislike to waste time about federal goverment. I want federal goverment to look for more oil in US now or force to companies build alternative cars. OPEC oil will be reduced.
Throw out President Bush soon.

crankshaft · 06-08-2008, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by HorseRace

crank, if that happen, then usa might crash.. people cant go work then everything stop..

i hope not.. I just dont know what the outcome would be...

I might have to stock up all of my ammo just to defend myself/my family if everything went out chaos..... oh yeah ammo price has skyrocket too...

HorseRace · 06-08-2008, 11:38 AM

well.. who knows... we all need to be prepare..

purplecatty, yea iknow.. i am not suprise.. right now they are trying to convert to elertic car from regular car like today.. so we can save oil for many things instead.
what if 13 dollars per gal as today, what happen to everyone? ooo!

purplecatty · 06-08-2008, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by HorseRace

well.. who knows... we all need to be prepare..

purplecatty, yea iknow.. i am not suprise.. right now they are trying to convert to elertic car from regular car like today.. so we can save oil for many things instead.
what if 13 dollars per gal as today, what happen to everyone? ooo!

I bet life would sucks big time. And probably cowboys will have wonderful business with millions of clients requesting for horses. Horses would have better life that it were back in 100+ years ago. It would have customized saddle w/ radio, battery, water tank w/ electric pump for horse to drink ect. All those luxuries for horses to spoil with.

Catty

Catty

crankshaft · 06-08-2008, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by purplecatty

I bet life would sucks big time. And probably cowboys will have wonderful business with millions of clients requesting for horses. Horses would have better life that it were back in 100+ years ago. It would have customized saddle w/ radio, battery, water tank w/ electric pump for horse to drink ect. All those luxuries for horses to spoil with.

Catty

Catty

lol I didn't think of that.. I guess I'll have to get "low profile" horse shoe for him too...

purplecatty · 06-08-2008, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by crankshaft

lol I didn't think of that.. I guess I'll have to get "low profile" horse shoe for him too...

Maybe Bling horse carriage rofl

HorseRace · 06-08-2008, 09:33 PM

LMAO ! purplecatty true.. .. let see what happen.. rme!

purplecatty · 06-10-2008, 12:59 AM

Where's schweisshund? He asked me to sent him attachment of Hydrogen plan. He never left his PM, Email that I couldn't get his email. Schweisshund seem quiet for now?

Guess Govt just confisicated him

j/k

Catty

sequoias · 06-10-2008, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by purplecatty

Where's schweisshund? He asked me to sent him attachment of Hydrogen plan. He never left his PM, Email that I couldn't get his email. Schweisshund seem quiet for now?

Guess Govt just confisicated him

j/k

Catty

He's banned from Alldeaf...and will never return. They have deleted his account also.

Liebling:-))) · 06-10-2008, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by sequoias

He's banned from Alldeaf...and will never return. They have deleted his account also.

Sure, he was banned but he choose to close his account because he felt that AD is not freedom of speech...

purplecatty · 06-11-2008, 01:12 AM

Aah No problem, he asked for it tho.

Catty

HorseRace · 06-11-2008, 06:33 AM

oh boy.. purplecatty now i guess you try to work on that project.. iknow you just saying it costs alot for getting parts.. blah.. just be patient.. even throught i still thinking about 300 mpg car! i found one link somewhere in AD! let see..

purplecatty · 06-11-2008, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by HorseRace

oh boy.. purplecatty now i guess you try to work on that project.. iknow you just saying it costs alot for getting parts.. blah.. just be patient.. even throught i still thinking about 300 mpg car! i found one link somewhere in AD! let see..

Yes, I heard about it. Not on this blog, It's on website.

300-mpg, Electric Aptera Typ-1 Ready for 2008 Production, Not Jetsons Remake: First Look - Popular Mechanics

Funky 300 MPG Car Taking Pre-Orders | EcoGeek

300 MPG Or Conspiracy Theory?

Is that what you are talking about??

Do a google search

Catty

HorseRace · 06-11-2008, 11:23 AM

yea same car i found .. but not same link..

thank anyway! i may to find thier company phone number and i may ask them about it

purplecatty · 06-12-2008, 07:21 AM

Here's the info I found and it's nearly the same.

Hydrogen Booster

Catty

HorseRace · 06-13-2008, 04:22 PM

what!!! hydrogen booster! i never see! wow! damn! usa is not allowed to be sale here! rme! no wonder busniess doesnt want customer to win.. their goal is all customers has spend more than they earn! imagna! rme! wrong way system!

but this site! wow! one thing is this will work with my truck? and how much is it worth? i am little confused..

purplecatty · 06-13-2008, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by HorseRace

what!!! hydrogen booster! i never see! wow! damn! usa is not allowed to be sale here! rme! no wonder busniess doesnt want customer to win.. their goal is all customers has spend more than they earn! imagna! rme! wrong way system!

but this site! wow! one thing is this will work with my truck? and how much is it worth? i am little confused..

It's just basically home made. It's almost the same. Every Reactors are different tho. But be aware that there are misleading ads online. I have seen 3 or 4 different weblink connect to same company (not the Hydrogen Booster, just other company). I know they are defrauding customers.

Water Converson Kits Reviewed

Convert your car to run on water fuel | HHO Powered Cars | Hydrogen Fuel Powered Car Reviews

Run Your Car With Water|Improve Gas Mileage

You should look very carefully. It's the same company, but different website links. It's a fraud. You can see "Water4Gas" which is common.

It's just home made jar w/ wire ect in it. Don't fall for it.

You can easily build one urself. But first of all learn about Hydrogen use and what it can do or can't do. Hydrogen can't broil water but can cut metal.

Catty

HorseRace · 06-13-2008, 05:36 PM

oh fraud busniess! that is exlain.. i thought something like i say before you reply this.. opps lol! yea i see that now.. oh man.. do you trust that? do you think it works?

Chevy57 · 06-13-2008, 05:39 PM

My state of Ohio has some Amish counties. Why not you rent Amish horse buggy?

HorseRace · 06-13-2008, 05:41 PM

oh lol! it would be late for my meeting or appointment or whatever! oh man!

purplecatty · 06-13-2008, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by HorseRace

oh lol! it would be late for my meeting or appointment or whatever! oh man!

No, aquire 8 horses like cowboy time with sporty looking buggy. You won't miss your appt

purplecatty · 06-13-2008, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by HorseRace

oh fraud busniess! that is exlain.. i thought something like i say before you reply this.. opps lol! yea i see that now.. oh man.. do you trust that? do you think it works?

It all depends on the design. I would like to do experiement if I had money to spend. And see how it works. Also I would look into chemistry books and up to date info about Hydrogen production. Never know that there are some simple way to make Hydrogen.

Catty

HorseRace · 06-14-2008, 12:28 AM

alright purplecatty cool!

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06-08-2008, 02:41 AM	#95 (permalink)
HorseRace Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Austin TX Posts: 1,581	crank, if that happen, then usa might crash.. people cant go work then everything stop..

06-08-2008, 11:38 AM	#100 (permalink)
HorseRace Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Austin TX Posts: 1,581	well.. who knows... we all need to be prepare.. purplecatty, yea iknow.. i am not suprise.. right now they are trying to convert to elertic car from regular car like today.. so we can save oil for many things instead. what if 13 dollars per gal as today, what happen to everyone? ooo!

06-08-2008, 09:33 PM	#104 (permalink)
HorseRace Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Austin TX Posts: 1,581	LMAO ! purplecatty true.. .. let see what happen.. rme!

06-10-2008, 12:59 AM	#105 (permalink)
purplecatty Cool Guy!! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Center of the USA Posts: 2,427	Where's schweisshund? He asked me to sent him attachment of Hydrogen plan. He never left his PM, Email that I couldn't get his email. Schweisshund seem quiet for now? Guess Govt just confisicated him j/k Catty

06-11-2008, 01:12 AM	#108 (permalink)
purplecatty Cool Guy!! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Center of the USA Posts: 2,427	Aah No problem, he asked for it tho. Catty

06-11-2008, 06:33 AM	#109 (permalink)
HorseRace Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Austin TX Posts: 1,581	oh boy.. purplecatty now i guess you try to work on that project.. iknow you just saying it costs alot for getting parts.. blah.. just be patient.. even throught i still thinking about 300 mpg car! i found one link somewhere in AD! let see..

06-11-2008, 11:23 AM	#111 (permalink)
HorseRace Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Austin TX Posts: 1,581	yea same car i found .. but not same link.. thank anyway! i may to find thier company phone number and i may ask them about it

06-12-2008, 07:21 AM	#112 (permalink)
purplecatty Cool Guy!! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Center of the USA Posts: 2,427	Here's the info I found and it's nearly the same. Hydrogen Booster Catty

06-13-2008, 04:22 PM	#113 (permalink)
HorseRace Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Austin TX Posts: 1,581	what!!! hydrogen booster! i never see! wow! damn! usa is not allowed to be sale here! rme! no wonder busniess doesnt want customer to win.. their goal is all customers has spend more than they earn! imagna! rme! wrong way system! but this site! wow! one thing is this will work with my truck? and how much is it worth? i am little confused..

06-13-2008, 05:36 PM	#115 (permalink)
HorseRace Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Austin TX Posts: 1,581	oh fraud busniess! that is exlain.. i thought something like i say before you reply this.. opps lol! yea i see that now.. oh man.. do you trust that? do you think it works?

06-13-2008, 05:39 PM	#116 (permalink)
Chevy57 Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Buckeye State Posts: 5,279	My state of Ohio has some Amish counties. Why not you rent Amish horse buggy?

06-13-2008, 05:41 PM	#117 (permalink)
HorseRace Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Austin TX Posts: 1,581	oh lol! it would be late for my meeting or appointment or whatever! oh man!

06-14-2008, 12:28 AM	#120 (permalink)
HorseRace Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Austin TX Posts: 1,581	alright purplecatty cool!