Discrimination - Page 2

Jiro · 02-20-2009, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Byrdie714

What did you expect?

several months to a year

Byrdie714 · 02-20-2009, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

several months to a year

I wish but that is not how the court system works. Very slow and cumbersome.

Secondly when one feels that they have been discriminated against--the courts would prefer for one to go through EEOC and that takes about a year for EEOC to decide as they have to investigate, interview individuals, etc.

If EEOC agrees with you--then you can file a suit against the other party.

The reasoning for the courts to prefer one to go through EEOC is due to the volume of lawsuits that are already in the court system and they would prefer the case to have merit.

Byrdie714 · 02-20-2009, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Babyblue

3.5 years is a short time, compared to other suits similar to that.

If you would not have agreed to settle, It would have lasted a lot longer than that.

Exactly.

If it was a class-action lawsuit--then it would've taken a lot longer. Since it was me--it was about right.

Did you know that if you were involved in a MVA and file a lawsuit against the other party--that could take about 1.5 years to 2 years?

DURAY · 02-21-2009, 10:35 PM

U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) explaned the process - except when you settled then the EEOC will come it. I'm not impressed with EEOC investigators, they are not even trained.

Byrdie714 · 02-22-2009, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DURAY

U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) explaned the process - except when you settled then the EEOC will come it. I'm not impressed with EEOC investigators, they are not even trained.

Sorry you had a bad experience with EEOC.

KarissaMann05 · 02-22-2009, 03:23 AM

Yes, I was discriminated because of my personal background and my belief...

smithtr · 02-23-2009, 08:05 PM

don't be blame or discimmition no more complaint to you I Hope be hapyp sound great. I agree you karissaMann05

DURAY · 02-23-2009, 10:14 PM

well it was laugheable really. the worst was the OFFCP investigator who presneted at a workshop. kept saying handicapped and I corrected him. finally he snapped and call me a racist and I signed you're a deafist.

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Originally Posted by Byrdie714

Sorry you had a bad experience with EEOC.

Byrdie714 · 02-24-2009, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DURAY

well it was laugheable really. the worst was the OFFCP investigator who presneted at a workshop. kept saying handicapped and I corrected him. finally he snapped and call me a racist and I signed you're a deafist.

WTH?

Why would you continually interrupt an individual who is giving a presentation when one can wait until the end of the presentation to let them know about the term, "handicapped"?

All you two did was berate each other instead of empowering one another.

jillio · 02-24-2009, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Byrdie714

WTH?

Why would you continually interrupt an individual who is giving a presentation when one can wait until the end of the presentation to let them know about the term, "handicapped"?

All you two did was berate each other instead of empowering one another.

Exactly. And, in the end, accomplished nothing. Trying to fight discrimination by using more discrimination is futile.

Nathan · 02-24-2009, 02:04 PM

Have you ever felt discriminated on VP when somebody important asked you that they can't talk to you thought VI for confident reason? As many of you know I work for Purple Company, I was using VI though VP-200 as usual for business reasons. So I came cross to call my ISP or phone company for information or had a account with them. What did I get? Discrimination. They won't allow to speak to me because of confident reason unless they see me personal. Wtf...?? Hearing people can call on their phones, why can't we? They ask for VI name and who they are. They aren't allowed because of the policy. VI use numbers only. Still VI certificated are federal service. I did ask for their supervisors. No problem with them really. So why the hell are wrong with those people?

adisatr3 · 02-24-2009, 07:02 PM

discrimination against race, gender, sexual orientation is not a very cryptic subject. it happens all the time and for those that under went that process, im sorry. it is at least a somewhat decent thing that most individuals aren't being discriminated against for being deaf.

shel90 · 02-24-2009, 08:23 PM

When I was 19 years old, I had worked at Jack in the Box for almost 4 years at that time. I wanted to move up to Shift Leader cuz I felt that I knew how the restaurant was run from inside out. No, I wasnt looking for career as I was still going to college but wanted a promotion for more money and more challenges since I was so bored with being a cashier, cook, and stocker. Wanted the experience of running a shift and of course, any kind of management experience always looks good on a resume regardless of where the job is at. My boss told me that he couldnt promote me cuz of my deafness...I was shocked and knew something was wrong in the picture but didnt know what. I didnt really understand the ADA and my rights as my parents never really talked about me about those issues. They were in denial about my deafness so I told my mom and she said "You werent seeking a career with Jack in the Box anyway." I took her words to heart but 20 years later to now, I wish I didnt and had fought cuz the company got away with it. I regret quitting after I was told that I would never get promoted. I wish I had taken to the next step but I was just a ignorant kid.

That was a big-time discrimination situation I have ever experienced.

I have experienced discrimination by hearing people for not treating me as someone who has a brain like they do.

DURAY · 02-24-2009, 09:34 PM

because it is the norm to interrupt. Go to any diversity seminar or forced privileges workshop and hear the word handicapped a lot. Fight the Power.

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Originally Posted by Byrdie714

WTH?

Why would you continually interrupt an individual who is giving a presentation when one can wait until the end of the presentation to let them know about the term, "handicapped"?

All you two did was berate each other instead of empowering one another.

Nathan · 02-24-2009, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by shel90

When I was 19 years old, I had worked at Jack in the Box for almost 4 years at that time. I wanted to move up to Shift Leader cuz I felt that I knew how the restaurant was run from inside out. No, I wasnt looking for career as I was still going to college but wanted a promotion for more money and more challenges since I was so bored with being a cashier, cook, and stocker. Wanted the experience of running a shift and of course, any kind of management experience always looks good on a resume regardless of where the job is at. My boss told me that he couldnt promote me cuz of my deafness...I was shocked and knew something was wrong in the picture but didnt know what. I didnt really understand the ADA and my rights as my parents never really talked about me about those issues. They were in denial about my deafness so I told my mom and she said "You werent seeking a career with Jack in the Box anyway." I took her words to heart but 20 years later to now, I wish I didnt and had fought cuz the company got away with it. I regret quitting after I was told that I would never get promoted. I wish I had taken to the next step but I was just a ignorant kid.

That was a big-time discrimination situation I have ever experienced.

I have experienced discrimination by hearing people for not treating me as someone who has a brain like they do.

Because it's business and a single person can ruin a company so that's probably why they couldn't afford the risk to promote you maybe? Although it's still a discrimination because we are capable and destiny for greater things. Deafness had nothing to do with it, but skills. We have be discriminated one times too may no matter how hard we try. People often use us for granted. No what what your resumes are, sometimes we never get a chance to build greater career after promote.

Byrdie714 · 02-24-2009, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DURAY

because it is the norm to interrupt. Go to any diversity seminar or forced privileges workshop and hear the word handicapped a lot. Fight the Power.

Are you talking about the norm of the Deaf culture to interrupt?

Remember we are dealing with the dominant culture--Hearing. They don't like to be interrupted when speaking and when there is an opening--then we 'Fight the Power'.

jillio · 02-25-2009, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Byrdie714

Are you talking about the norm of the Deaf culture to interrupt?

Remember we are dealing with the dominant culture--Hearing. They don't like to be interrupted when speaking and when there is an opening--then we 'Fight the Power'.

It is not the norm to interrupt a seminar speaker. It is the norm to ask those that constantly interrupt to leave.

Byrdie714 · 02-25-2009, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Byrdie714

Are you talking about the norm of the Deaf culture to interrupt?

Remember we are dealing with the dominant culture--Hearing. They don't like to be interrupted when speaking and when there is an opening--then we 'Fight the Power'.

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Originally Posted by jillio

It is not the norm to interrupt a seminar speaker. It is the norm to ask those that constantly interrupt to leave.

I think I should've been a little more specific on my post....

What I was referring to is when the speaker asks if there are any questions or comments that one wants to make and when that happens--then one can tell the speaker about their viewpoint on the word, "handicapped".

Educating those that don't know is the key.

PowerON · 02-25-2009, 01:01 PM

Yes, I have been discrimination for being pretty.

Doug5 · 02-25-2009, 01:48 PM

I experienced something similar at my first job at a grocery store. I worked as a bagger for a couple of months, hoping to be promoted to cashier. With the union, the pay is really good. Anyways, they never promoted me and they were hiring people off the street to start as cashiers. They were the same age as me.

I talked to the manager about it but all I got was the run around. I got the hint that they would never promote me. So I ended up quitting. The weird thing was, I never asked for any accomadations and my hoh was never an issue. I worked hard too but it didnt matter.

Being hired by company that never intends to let you move up the ladder is as bad as not being hired at all. You end up wasting your seniority.

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Originally Posted by shel90

When I was 19 years old, I had worked at Jack in the Box for almost 4 years at that time. I wanted to move up to Shift Leader cuz I felt that I knew how the restaurant was run from inside out. No, I wasnt looking for career as I was still going to college but wanted a promotion for more money and more challenges since I was so bored with being a cashier, cook, and stocker. Wanted the experience of running a shift and of course, any kind of management experience always looks good on a resume regardless of where the job is at. My boss told me that he couldnt promote me cuz of my deafness...I was shocked and knew something was wrong in the picture but didnt know what. I didnt really understand the ADA and my rights as my parents never really talked about me about those issues. They were in denial about my deafness so I told my mom and she said "You werent seeking a career with Jack in the Box anyway." I took her words to heart but 20 years later to now, I wish I didnt and had fought cuz the company got away with it. I regret quitting after I was told that I would never get promoted. I wish I had taken to the next step but I was just a ignorant kid.

That was a big-time discrimination situation I have ever experienced.

I have experienced discrimination by hearing people for not treating me as someone who has a brain like they do.

Doug5 · 02-25-2009, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan

Because it's business and a single person can ruin a company so that's probably why they couldn't afford the risk to promote you maybe? Although it's still a discrimination because we are capable and destiny for greater things. Deafness had nothing to do with it, but skills. We have be discriminated one times too may no matter how hard we try. People often use us for granted. No what what your resumes are, sometimes we never get a chance to build greater career after promote.

Theres always a risk promoting a employee whether they are deaf or not. To deny someone the opportunity because they are deaf is just wrong.

Tousi · 02-25-2009, 02:11 PM

What are forced privileges workshops?

radioman · 02-25-2009, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug5

The weird thing was, I never asked for any accomadations and my hoh was never an issue. I worked hard too but it didnt matter.

Being hired by company that never intends to let you move up the ladder is as bad as not being hired at all. You end up wasting your seniority.

I know what you are saying. I been there several times and hate it.

jillio · 02-25-2009, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Tousi

What are forced privileges workshops?

I have no idea, but they sound very militant!

shel90 · 02-25-2009, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan

Because it's business and a single person can ruin a company so that's probably why they couldn't afford the risk to promote you maybe? Although it's still a discrimination because we are capable and destiny for greater things. Deafness had nothing to do with it, but skills. We have be discriminated one times too may no matter how hard we try. People often use us for granted. No what what your resumes are, sometimes we never get a chance to build greater career after promote.

My boss said in his words that it was because of my deafness that he wouldnt promote me. Besides Jack in the Box is a huge company..I doubt I could ruin it.

Byrdie714 · 02-25-2009, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by shel90

My boss said in his words that it was because of my deafness that he wouldnt promote me. Besides Jack in the Box is a huge company..I doubt I could ruin it.

Only one incident almost did--the e.coli outbreak.

Roc · 02-25-2009, 10:00 PM

I have a case of employment discrimination, which is still ongoing (since April 2005).
I also won a couple of discrimination cases (Denied me of communication access). All five cases of them together since 2005. The cases goes on and on and on. I am patient because I know my rights were violated and I will get what I deserve to get.

Doug5 · 02-26-2009, 12:14 PM

I dont want to win cases, I just want a chance to move up.

***VamPyroX*** · 02-26-2009, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by KarissaMann05

Yes, I was discriminated because of my personal background and my belief...

How were you discriminated because of your personal belief and background?

***VamPyroX*** · 02-26-2009, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

Have you ever felt discriminated on VP when somebody important asked you that they can't talk to you thought VI for confident reason? As many of you know I work for Purple Company, I was using VI though VP-200 as usual for business reasons. So I came cross to call my ISP or phone company for information or had a account with them. What did I get? Discrimination. They won't allow to speak to me because of confident reason unless they see me personal. Wtf...?? Hearing people can call on their phones, why can't we? They ask for VI name and who they are. They aren't allowed because of the policy. VI use numbers only. Still VI certificated are federal service. I did ask for their supervisors. No problem with them really. So why the hell are wrong with those people?

Have you tried emailing your ISP or other communication methods offered by your ISP?

My ISP has live-chat. If I have problems, I use the live chat. I get better response and help that way.

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shel90 In a pink and black world Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: In the land of the free Posts: 23,991 Blog Entries: 3	When I was 19 years old, I had worked at Jack in the Box for almost 4 years at that time. I wanted to move up to Shift Leader cuz I felt that I knew how the restaurant was run from inside out. No, I wasnt looking for career as I was still going to college but wanted a promotion for more money and more challenges since I was so bored with being a cashier, cook, and stocker. Wanted the experience of running a shift and of course, any kind of management experience always looks good on a resume regardless of where the job is at. My boss told me that he couldnt promote me cuz of my deafness...I was shocked and knew something was wrong in the picture but didnt know what. I didnt really understand the ADA and my rights as my parents never really talked about me about those issues. They were in denial about my deafness so I told my mom and she said "You werent seeking a career with Jack in the Box anyway." I took her words to heart but 20 years later to now, I wish I didnt and had fought cuz the company got away with it. I regret quitting after I was told that I would never get promoted. I wish I had taken to the next step but I was just a ignorant kid. That was a big-time discrimination situation I have ever experienced. I have experienced discrimination by hearing people for not treating me as someone who has a brain like they do. __________________ Shel~ "A child educated only at school is an uneducated child." -George Santayana

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adisatr3 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 9	discrimination against race, gender, sexual orientation is not a very cryptic subject. it happens all the time and for those that under went that process, im sorry. it is at least a somewhat decent thing that most individuals aren't being discriminated against for being deaf.

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