ssi and marriage?

jasin · 03-28-2007, 05:10 AM

Is there a penalty for being married when you are getting ssi or do they give you more money? I've heard both, there is and isn't. Anyone know?

nightcrickets · 03-28-2007, 08:44 AM

no penalty as long as you report it. I know several people who got SSI and married. They just won't get as much. They usually get less since two people (if the other person is working) are sharing the same household.

I don't know how it goes if the other person is on SSI. They might get more.

UpstNYDesigner · 03-28-2007, 09:48 AM

I noticed quite a bit of people get SSI/SSDI then lose it when they get married. But then again, can get them after getting married but depends on the spouse's earning. If you receive SSDI under your parent's name since your parent retired, and get married, you are more likely to lose it when you get married. Ask your SS lawyer, not SS office since they can mess up. Never really trust the government as they say since they need more information like how much your spouse to be makes, etc..

nightcrickets · 03-28-2007, 11:35 AM

You will only lose it if your spouse make too much money and can support you more than SSI can. This is sometime not good because sometimes a spouse can be too greedy and you need the money to pay for supplies like hearing aid batteries and things like that.

diehardbiker · 03-28-2007, 12:37 PM

Another reason why I WON'T get married. I have known some people regretting getting married. One of them decided to get divorced so that they can get full SSI. Gov't shouldn't force anyone to depend on others, that is so wrong!!!!

webexplorer · 03-28-2007, 12:44 PM

I am pretty sure that most lawyers are not interested helping SS users because of "low" pay. I have never heard of a SS lawyer unless going to a court. I believe you that Government or SS agents can screw you up.

If a wife makes more money than her husband with SS for a divorce, his wife is forced to pay him monthly. I don't know whether her husband requires to give up his SS. I don't have that information. That's something that we need to know about.

nightcrickets · 03-28-2007, 01:15 PM

if she is required to pay, I think his SSI amount would be the same as if he was still married to her.

diehardbiker · 03-28-2007, 01:16 PM

No, not true, but if SSDI yes true.

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Originally Posted by nightcrickets

if she is required to pay, I think his SSI amount would be the same as if he was still married to her.

nightcrickets · 03-28-2007, 01:18 PM

SSI + alimony?

If she was making too much, he should be getting less SSI in the first place while he was married

But if alimony is not enough, I guess he would get alittle more. It is whatever he need to survive.

horselover61 · 03-28-2007, 03:39 PM

Is that for both SSI and SSDI or just SSI?? Just curious

jazzy · 03-28-2007, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by UpstNYDesigner

I noticed quite a bit of people get SSI/SSDI then lose it when they get married. But then again, can get them after getting married but depends on the spouse's earning. If you receive SSDI under your parent's name since your parent retired, and get married, you are more likely to lose it when you get married. Ask your SS lawyer, not SS office since they can mess up. Never really trust the government as they say since they need more information like how much your spouse to be makes, etc..

SSI and SSDI are separate. SSDI and SSA make no change if they got married as long as they put the paper down as individal not need to let them know they are married. When they ask u question, be careful with those questions cuz they are tricky questions.

diehardbiker · 03-28-2007, 11:56 PM

Clarification, no part of SSI is taxable, and maybe that is part reason why when married, they will be cut some off, while SSDI is subject to taxes, thus that is why nothing will affect if married. Only that portion of SSDI will be taxable *IF* married couples adjust gross income exceeded $34K a year INCLUDING the SSDI money. If less than 34K a year then SSDI wouldnt needed to be included when filing taxes. I am not sure which one $34 or $36 for married couple.

diehardbiker · 03-29-2007, 12:12 AM

duplicate

Kai Onca · 03-29-2007, 04:01 PM

No offense but get a job and support a family instead of depending on the government for its handouts which comes from hardworking Americans just like me.

horselover61 · 03-29-2007, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by diehardbiker

Clarification, no part of SSI is taxable, and maybe that is part reason why when married, they will be cut some off, while SSDI is subject to taxes, thus that is why nothing will affect if married. Only that portion of SSDI will be taxable *IF* married couples adjust gross income exceeded $34K a year INCLUDING the SSDI money. If less than 34K a year then SSDI wouldnt needed to be included when filing taxes. I am not sure which one $34 or $36 for married couple.

But some ppl will filed tax seperatly for some reason. I wasnt on SSDI when I married to my exh but we did file our tax seperate for a reason.

***VamPyroX*** · 03-29-2007, 06:30 PM

As long as you report it, there shouldn't be any penalties.

Sometimes, the income might change based on your and your spouse's income... and where you are.

Income varies on your needs, your income, your disability, your place of living, etc.

If both of you get married and move to a new place, the income might increase or decrease. It's important to report it and work it out before penalties are made. If your income will decrease because of the marriage, it's better than the fines you will be charged if you didn't report it and get caught.

diehardbiker · 03-30-2007, 12:03 AM

They STILL required to include SSDI to determine wheather it is taxable or not either way file jointly or seperately. Filing seperate will have same effect if filing jointly. IRS do not take this part lightly. FYI

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Originally Posted by horselover61

But some ppl will filed tax seperatly for some reason. I wasnt on SSDI when I married to my exh but we did file our tax seperate for a reason.

jasin · 03-30-2007, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by diehardbiker

Another reason why I WON'T get married. I have known some people regretting getting married. One of them decided to get divorced so that they can get full SSI. Gov't shouldn't force anyone to depend on others, that is so wrong!!!!

Oh dear, I think I am screwed! Being with the one you love is a penalty? Dear God, what has this country come to? No wonder divorce rates are so high in America!

jasin · 03-30-2007, 02:34 PM

I think I will have to move out of the country if they do this to me! I hope I can get by with asl in the Philippines.

Lord Oh Lord!!

jasin · 03-30-2007, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jazzy

SSI and SSDI are separate. SSDI and SSA make no change if they got married as long as they put the paper down as individal not need to let them know they are married. When they ask u question, be careful with those questions cuz they are tricky questions.

Thats sneaky

JeepGirl · 03-30-2007, 04:26 PM

I just got married recently and was getting ssi.. it's cut off but I get to keep the ssdi for a while (it won't last long) I'm also working and my husband makes too much money.

trust me.. if you work .. you'll feel better working than collecting ssi and ssd..

jasin · 03-31-2007, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RebelGirl

I just got married recently and was getting ssi.. it's cut off but I get to keep the ssdi for a while (it won't last long) I'm also working and my husband makes too much money.

trust me.. if you work .. you'll feel better working than collecting ssi and ssd..

If I could work I would! Isn't that the point of disability though? It gives those who can't work because of a disability a way to survive? Oh, and I don't get ssdi I get ssi/ssa. I need this stuff for the medicare mostly. Without that insurance i'll probably die, literally.

shel90 · 03-31-2007, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jasin

If I could work I would! Isn't that the point of disability though? It gives those who can't work because of a disability a way to survive? Oh, and I don't get ssdi I get ssi/ssa. I need this stuff for the medicare mostly. Without that insurance i'll probably die, literally.

I dont blame u...I got SSDI when my ex hubby left me. It saved my ass.

Why not go to your local SSA office and find out?

jasin · 03-31-2007, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by shel90

I dont blame u...I got SSDI when my ex hubby left me. It saved my ass.

Why not go to your local SSA office and find out?

Not worth it, they'll just tell me what I already know.

nightcrickets · 03-31-2007, 06:30 PM

If you can't work and you need a second income to make it through, which most people do when they live together, married or not, You won't lose your SSI.

jasin · 04-05-2007, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by nightcrickets

If you can't work and you need a second income to make it through, which most people do when they live together, married or not, You won't lose your SSI.

I think this touches on a much deeper issue, how our goverment screws over people born here and those who are disabled. If only I were a mexican migrant or asian immigrant. How nice it would be to have a interest free loan, grants and subsidies, a home I own, etc.

em20003 · 04-12-2007, 01:23 AM

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em20003 · 04-12-2007, 01:41 AM

"If only I were a mexican migrant or asian immigrant."

Err well that wouldn’t help, you would still be looking for a hand out and still not have a job and still have no money.You would then be complaining how badly we mexicans and asians are treated in this country.

Since you say you cant work would you then want the government to pay for your interest free loan? You talk like you could work and if you had the benifits that working people had you would be better off.Why exactly cant you work.

webexplorer · 04-12-2007, 06:17 PM

This is a difficult issue about Mexican people coming to America. The big problem is that there are many young Mexican gangs came to my country and spread to some states. They abused American teenagers with their type of games. Many police have a hard time to deal with them. Most of them are on welfare. Do we need to stop them coming to our country? Can we send our soldiers in Mexico and overthrow the government? The Mexican government wants to get rid of them because the governor does not want to spend the money to help them. That's corrupt system.

I am stuck to bring this up on SSI and Marriage issue, but it is still part of the story.

I believe that older Mexican people like 30 or older can come over because they are grown adult and have the responsibility. But, bringing their teenagers are the one that cause the problem. The adult people have better skill than our America in some way, and they work so hard especially working outside in the hot weather. They could get SSI if they cannot find a job. It hurt us that we have to help them to get free medical even they do not have a green card.

WhisperHorse · 04-12-2007, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RebelGirl

I just got married recently and was getting ssi.. it's cut off but I get to keep the ssdi for a while (it won't last long) I'm also working and my husband makes too much money.

trust me.. if you work .. you'll feel better working than collecting ssi and ssd..

I agreed with you this part 100%!

03-28-2007, 05:10 AM	#1 (permalink)
jasin Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Puyallup, Washington Posts: 779	ssi and marriage? Is there a penalty for being married when you are getting ssi or do they give you more money? I've heard both, there is and isn't. Anyone know?

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*VamPyroX* bloody phreak from hell Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Hell Posts: 27,029	As long as you report it, there shouldn't be any penalties. Sometimes, the income might change based on your and your spouse's income... and where you are. Income varies on your needs, your income, your disability, your place of living, etc. If both of you get married and move to a new place, the income might increase or decrease. It's important to report it and work it out before penalties are made. If your income will decrease because of the marriage, it's better than the fines you will be charged if you didn't report it and get caught. __________________ Check out my city... CLICK HERE! (If you already visited yesterday, visit again today!)

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nightcrickets Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 225	If you can't work and you need a second income to make it through, which most people do when they live together, married or not, You won't lose your SSI. Last edited by nightcrickets; 03-31-2007 at 06:51 PM.

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03-28-2007, 08:44 AM	#2 (permalink)
nightcrickets Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 225	no penalty as long as you report it. I know several people who got SSI and married. They just won't get as much. They usually get less since two people (if the other person is working) are sharing the same household. I don't know how it goes if the other person is on SSI. They might get more.

03-28-2007, 09:48 AM	#3 (permalink)
UpstNYDesigner Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 255	I noticed quite a bit of people get SSI/SSDI then lose it when they get married. But then again, can get them after getting married but depends on the spouse's earning. If you receive SSDI under your parent's name since your parent retired, and get married, you are more likely to lose it when you get married. Ask your SS lawyer, not SS office since they can mess up. Never really trust the government as they say since they need more information like how much your spouse to be makes, etc..

03-28-2007, 11:35 AM	#4 (permalink)
nightcrickets Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 225	You will only lose it if your spouse make too much money and can support you more than SSI can. This is sometime not good because sometimes a spouse can be too greedy and you need the money to pay for supplies like hearing aid batteries and things like that.

03-28-2007, 12:37 PM	#5 (permalink)
diehardbiker Busy in poker room Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 6,027	Another reason why I WON'T get married. I have known some people regretting getting married. One of them decided to get divorced so that they can get full SSI. Gov't shouldn't force anyone to depend on others, that is so wrong!!!!

03-28-2007, 12:44 PM	#6 (permalink)
webexplorer I'm listening to everyone Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: New England Posts: 3,366	I am pretty sure that most lawyers are not interested helping SS users because of "low" pay. I have never heard of a SS lawyer unless going to a court. I believe you that Government or SS agents can screw you up. If a wife makes more money than her husband with SS for a divorce, his wife is forced to pay him monthly. I don't know whether her husband requires to give up his SS. I don't have that information. That's something that we need to know about.

03-28-2007, 01:15 PM	#7 (permalink)
nightcrickets Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 225	if she is required to pay, I think his SSI amount would be the same as if he was still married to her.

03-28-2007, 01:18 PM	#9 (permalink)
nightcrickets Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 225	SSI + alimony? If she was making too much, he should be getting less SSI in the first place while he was married But if alimony is not enough, I guess he would get alittle more. It is whatever he need to survive.

03-28-2007, 03:39 PM	#10 (permalink)
horselover61 Neigh!!! Neigh!!! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 5,224 Blog Entries: 2	Is that for both SSI and SSDI or just SSI?? Just curious

03-28-2007, 11:56 PM	#12 (permalink)
diehardbiker Busy in poker room Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 6,027	Clarification, no part of SSI is taxable, and maybe that is part reason why when married, they will be cut some off, while SSDI is subject to taxes, thus that is why nothing will affect if married. Only that portion of SSDI will be taxable IF married couples adjust gross income exceeded $34K a year INCLUDING the SSDI money. If less than 34K a year then SSDI wouldnt needed to be included when filing taxes. I am not sure which one $34 or $36 for married couple.

03-29-2007, 12:12 AM	#13 (permalink)
diehardbiker Busy in poker room Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 6,027	duplicate

03-30-2007, 02:34 PM	#19 (permalink)
jasin Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Puyallup, Washington Posts: 779	I think I will have to move out of the country if they do this to me! I hope I can get by with asl in the Philippines. Lord Oh Lord!!

03-30-2007, 04:26 PM	#21 (permalink)
JeepGirl Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In the South Posts: 6,180	I just got married recently and was getting ssi.. it's cut off but I get to keep the ssdi for a while (it won't last long) I'm also working and my husband makes too much money. trust me.. if you work .. you'll feel better working than collecting ssi and ssd..

04-12-2007, 01:41 AM	#28 (permalink)
em20003 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 30	"If only I were a mexican migrant or asian immigrant." Err well that wouldn’t help, you would still be looking for a hand out and still not have a job and still have no money.You would then be complaining how badly we mexicans and asians are treated in this country. Since you say you cant work would you then want the government to pay for your interest free loan? You talk like you could work and if you had the benifits that working people had you would be better off.Why exactly cant you work. Last edited by em20003; 04-12-2007 at 01:50 AM. Reason: Missed earlier post and made changes to this one

04-12-2007, 06:17 PM	#29 (permalink)
webexplorer I'm listening to everyone Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: New England Posts: 3,366	This is a difficult issue about Mexican people coming to America. The big problem is that there are many young Mexican gangs came to my country and spread to some states. They abused American teenagers with their type of games. Many police have a hard time to deal with them. Most of them are on welfare. Do we need to stop them coming to our country? Can we send our soldiers in Mexico and overthrow the government? The Mexican government wants to get rid of them because the governor does not want to spend the money to help them. That's corrupt system. I am stuck to bring this up on SSI and Marriage issue, but it is still part of the story. I believe that older Mexican people like 30 or older can come over because they are grown adult and have the responsibility. But, bringing their teenagers are the one that cause the problem. The adult people have better skill than our America in some way, and they work so hard especially working outside in the hot weather. They could get SSI if they cannot find a job. It hurt us that we have to help them to get free medical even they do not have a green card.