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WRONG! Rape is a forced-sex assault because men WANT sex, that is desire to have sex, but forcing a person to let him to fuck him/her. Bear is right, rape is a dominate and control issue.
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Yes, erection is begin at baby boys. Babies/children's erection before hit puberty doesn't mean sexual feeling but just emotion like everyone. It's normal and common that they got erection in wake up at mornings, diaper, etc. They start to have sexual feeling soon before they hit puberty.
It's hard to beleive that boys at 8 and 9 are interested in sex or force a girl what they want.
You know media often made an extreme that's why I can't say anything until get both sides between boys's parents and girl's parents then and see what they says...
If the article claim is true, then boys should go to counselling to find out why they did instead of treat them criminal at their age.
It's hard to beleive that boys at 8 and 9 are interested in sex or force a girl what they want.
You know media often made an extreme that's why I can't say anything until get both sides between boys's parents and girl's parents then and see what they says...
If the article claim is true, then boys should go to counselling to find out why they did instead of treat them criminal at their age.
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My cousin is on her period and she is only 11 years old.
That is unusual.
Not really ususual for girls to start early period at age 11 years old I was one of them. Because 11 years old is called "pre-teen" means becoming a teenager so early at that age. There are more young girls now days start early period at 11 to 12 years old. That is normal.
WRONG! Rape has NOTHING to do with sex. It has as much as common with sex, as cooking does with using an iron pan in domestic fights (ie the cliche of the wife hitting the husband over the head with an iron pan) Men who rape (and not talking about date rape "misunderstandings) are very fucked up psychologicly, and misuse a dick/dildo/other thing to hurt and control women (or men)
WRONG! There is varies kinds of rape and it does NOT have to be the physically abuse. Rape can be like those:
-Drugging a person to have sex with him/her while they won't remember at all. (my personally, my female cousin did that to other guy to make him to marry her while he wasn't her boyfriend.)
-Knapping a person and force him/her to have sex, probably locked that person till the police find him/her.
-Possible assault including the sex. (like you say)
-Having the sex with underage. (Yeah I know it's kinda stupid, but the governments call this as "rape")
I am sure there is many more varies kinds of rape. Rape is a "forced-sex".
Puyo, I don't even think you even understood what I was saying! I KNOW there are different kinds of rape. That's not even revelant b/c criminal rape ( not two year difference between teenagers sort of rape) has to do with fuckers misusing their dick/dildo/etc as a WEAPON! The weapon doesn't matter if it's genitals or fists or an actual weapon.....what matters is the MOTAVATION behind those acts! The motavation is the same.............anger, control and dominiance!
Well I hate to continuing arguing, the rapist does not have to be angry to rape, control, nor dominiance..
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I don't know why we are arguing.
Women think men raped them because men want to control them.
Men think men raped them because they want sex.
But Rape is Rape... forcing someone to have sex against their will.
Women think men raped them because men want to control them.
Men think men raped them because they want sex.
But Rape is Rape... forcing someone to have sex against their will.
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Dixie do you realize the life these children have? You say what's the point and their records will be cleaned at 21?
What happened to innocent until proven guilty. Which I'm sure they will be found guilty as our juvenile justice system sucks.
I'm not saying these boys are innocent, but the truth of the matter is, even if they are life for them will not be all wine and roses.
I know this life too well, from first hand experience.
Depending on the state they are in. If they are tried as a juvenile, most likely they will be allowed 2-2 hour visits with the parents twice a month. Not week mind you but month.
The holidays? Forget it nothing special. No visits no nothing for them, not even a phone call home. Birthdays? Nah dont have them in juvenile facilities, no special visit no phone call home. Imagine that life for 8 & 9 year olds till they are 21? Hello? What kind of society are we?
A deputy sheriff here gets caught having sex with a 15 year old and he gets all of 15 months for that. Kids like my son serve lots more time. Where is the justice in that? My son served 4 years. A foster father killed his foster daughter here by stabbing her to death and only does 3 years! Hello???
It is time we woke up and started fighting to rehabilitate these kids, not take their whole childhoods away from them! It is time we cleaned up our moral standards as a society and started teaching our children as we did during our time and our parents times.
It is time we allowed our juveniles more rights within the juvenile justice system.
When you talk about child criminals so flippantly you also talk about your own child like that. Someday, something like this may hit closer to home. You would do best to change it today for the future.
What happened to innocent until proven guilty. Which I'm sure they will be found guilty as our juvenile justice system sucks.
I'm not saying these boys are innocent, but the truth of the matter is, even if they are life for them will not be all wine and roses.
I know this life too well, from first hand experience.
Depending on the state they are in. If they are tried as a juvenile, most likely they will be allowed 2-2 hour visits with the parents twice a month. Not week mind you but month.
The holidays? Forget it nothing special. No visits no nothing for them, not even a phone call home. Birthdays? Nah dont have them in juvenile facilities, no special visit no phone call home. Imagine that life for 8 & 9 year olds till they are 21? Hello? What kind of society are we?
A deputy sheriff here gets caught having sex with a 15 year old and he gets all of 15 months for that. Kids like my son serve lots more time. Where is the justice in that? My son served 4 years. A foster father killed his foster daughter here by stabbing her to death and only does 3 years! Hello???
It is time we woke up and started fighting to rehabilitate these kids, not take their whole childhoods away from them! It is time we cleaned up our moral standards as a society and started teaching our children as we did during our time and our parents times.
It is time we allowed our juveniles more rights within the juvenile justice system.
When you talk about child criminals so flippantly you also talk about your own child like that. Someday, something like this may hit closer to home. You would do best to change it today for the future.
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FOXNews.com - Suburban Atlanta Police Charge 3 Boys, Ages 8 and 9, With Rape, Kidnap of Girl, 11 - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News
ACWORTH, Ga. — Three boys ages 8 and 9 are under arrest for allegedly raping an 11-year-old girl in the woods near an apartment complex, police say.
The girl's mother reported the alleged rape Sunday, leading authorities to charge the boys with rape, kidnapping and false imprisonment charges.
Click here to watch a video report from MyFOXAtlanta
The victim alleges that she was playing with the boys in the yard when they took her into the woods against her will and one of the boys raped her, said Acworth police Capt. Wayne Dennard.
"The juvenile victim stated that an 8-year-old boy and two 9-year-old boys that she had been playing with earlier pulled her into a wooded area, where one of the boys raped her," Dennard said.
The three boys — an 8-year-old and two 9-year-olds — were charged with rape, kidnapping, false imprisonment and sexual assault, Dennard said. They were due in juvenile court Monday afternoon. Their names were being withheld because of their age.
Acworth Police Chief Mike Wilkie said one of the boys was accused of threatening to hit the girl with a rock before the assault occurred.
Wilkie also said the investigation is "far from over," and investigators are looking into claims that after the incident, the girl talked about it with her friends at a slumber party.
The father of the 8-year-old boy said his son had been falsely accused. Any sexual activity was consensual, and the girl accused her playmates only after her parents had learned she had sexual relations, said Brandon LeBlanc.
"There was no violence involved," LeBlanc said. "This is a clear case of a girl who didn't want to get in trouble with her parents."
He added, "In order to save her hide, she tried to blame it on rape."
The girl's mother, however, told WGCL TV in Atlanta, "They do need to be taught a lesson because if they do it to her, they could do it to somebody else," the victim's mother said. "And who knows when they become teenagers what they can do to other girls."
The incident involves children from a working class apartment complex on the northern outskirts of metro Atlanta.
LeBlanc said the kids all played together, biking or throwing a ball around in the apartment complex's parking lot.
He said his son is a third grader at a local Baptist school who loves the Atlanta Falcons and is a batboy for his church's softball league.
Cobb County District Attorney Pat Head said the boys could not be charged with felony crimes because of their age but could be tried for delinquent acts that could place them in a juvenile facility for up to five years.
Juvenile Court Judge A. Gregory Poole issued a gag order preventing the lawyers from commenting further.
Acworth, 30 miles northwest of Atlanta along the shores of Lake Allatoona, is a town of about 17,000.
Acworth police said their department has never before investigated allegations of rape where all the parties were this young.
"This wouldn't be normal anywhere, but especially not Acworth," Dennard said.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
ACWORTH, Ga. — Three boys ages 8 and 9 are under arrest for allegedly raping an 11-year-old girl in the woods near an apartment complex, police say.
The girl's mother reported the alleged rape Sunday, leading authorities to charge the boys with rape, kidnapping and false imprisonment charges.
Click here to watch a video report from MyFOXAtlanta
The victim alleges that she was playing with the boys in the yard when they took her into the woods against her will and one of the boys raped her, said Acworth police Capt. Wayne Dennard.
"The juvenile victim stated that an 8-year-old boy and two 9-year-old boys that she had been playing with earlier pulled her into a wooded area, where one of the boys raped her," Dennard said.
The three boys — an 8-year-old and two 9-year-olds — were charged with rape, kidnapping, false imprisonment and sexual assault, Dennard said. They were due in juvenile court Monday afternoon. Their names were being withheld because of their age.
Acworth Police Chief Mike Wilkie said one of the boys was accused of threatening to hit the girl with a rock before the assault occurred.
Wilkie also said the investigation is "far from over," and investigators are looking into claims that after the incident, the girl talked about it with her friends at a slumber party.
The father of the 8-year-old boy said his son had been falsely accused. Any sexual activity was consensual, and the girl accused her playmates only after her parents had learned she had sexual relations, said Brandon LeBlanc.
"There was no violence involved," LeBlanc said. "This is a clear case of a girl who didn't want to get in trouble with her parents."
He added, "In order to save her hide, she tried to blame it on rape."
The girl's mother, however, told WGCL TV in Atlanta, "They do need to be taught a lesson because if they do it to her, they could do it to somebody else," the victim's mother said. "And who knows when they become teenagers what they can do to other girls."
The incident involves children from a working class apartment complex on the northern outskirts of metro Atlanta.
LeBlanc said the kids all played together, biking or throwing a ball around in the apartment complex's parking lot.
He said his son is a third grader at a local Baptist school who loves the Atlanta Falcons and is a batboy for his church's softball league.
Cobb County District Attorney Pat Head said the boys could not be charged with felony crimes because of their age but could be tried for delinquent acts that could place them in a juvenile facility for up to five years.
Juvenile Court Judge A. Gregory Poole issued a gag order preventing the lawyers from commenting further.
Acworth, 30 miles northwest of Atlanta along the shores of Lake Allatoona, is a town of about 17,000.
Acworth police said their department has never before investigated allegations of rape where all the parties were this young.
"This wouldn't be normal anywhere, but especially not Acworth," Dennard said.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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Thats what I mean - our Juvenile Justice System isnt geared towards rehabilitation right now -its geared towards getting the delinquents off the streets where they are no longer a danger to society.
These kids are 8 and 9 years old, the more I think about this more I realize they may not fully understand what theyve done, theyve likely seen it on TV or even real life and thought this was OK when its not.
Whats likely to happen is these two are going to serve their time, get out and at age 21 their records are wiped clean. There's very little rehabilitation in the juvenile justice system, and to be honest Im not even sure if they receive a high school diploma when they 'graduate' high school behind bars, I think its just a GED in most states.
Remember the two boys that shot up Jonesboro back in the 90s? Thats exactly what happened to them. They were convicted murders before they even reached their teens and they were both sentenced to Juvenile Correction until they turn 21 - upon their 21st birthdays, they were released and the records wiped clean. Yes they lost their childhoods - but what about the LIVES they took when they started shooting, you can never get that back and get a fresh start just as the two boys did.
I think certain offenders should get the opportunity for rehabilitation such as those who have been victims of sexual abuse that have gone on to abuse and or rape someone else. You know their train of thought has been warped somewhere along the line causing them to believe that this is OK and normal when its very much not.
And it also depends on the age and their level to comprehend what theyve done. Some kids are just not the brightest bulb in the box to begin with, but say you have a 15 year old thats stolen his mothers credit card and maxed it out, come on you know the kid knew better, he just thought he could get away with it. I say cases like that dont need 'rehabilitation' he needs some big kid timeout in the slammer.
Am I saying the juvenile system is fair and just as is? Absolutely not, I dont think kids have enough rights and even at certain facilities they have absolutely no rights and the staff abuses the children by ignoring their requests to use the restroom or to see the nurse if they are sick. You would think stuff like that is fairly simple, but in the juvenile system its often seen as 'stupid little brat just wants to get out of their cell to cause trouble' and kids have died at these facilities due to neglect and abuse.
I dont think we should make a hard swing from not giving them enough rights to suddenly giving them too many rights and being mushy-cushy oh poor kid mentality. You have to find that right balance so that kids can report abuse and neglect in a timely manner - meaning the proof is valid via cameras and microphones. But also the kids know they are there to be punished not to be on vacation - which means no TV, no video games, although family visits wouldn't be bad - Id let the family come twice a week for 2 hour visits - as long as the kid displays good behavior while serving his/her time. And I think they should be allowed a phone call to/from home on their birthdays for 30 minutes. And Christmas Id allow the kids and parents to see each other for an entire day (such as Christmas Eve or Christmas Day) and allow them to have some family time on the grounds.
But I would also stick to my guns and say OK - this is punishment not a vacation - Id give it something of a boot camp curriculum where the theory is to break down the old person and to build up a newer better stronger person. 1st half of the day would be spent in a boot camp type environment and the 2nd half spent doing education and the evenings spent doing clean-up, homework, etc. Very little time to just sit and socialize.
These kids are 8 and 9 years old, the more I think about this more I realize they may not fully understand what theyve done, theyve likely seen it on TV or even real life and thought this was OK when its not.
Whats likely to happen is these two are going to serve their time, get out and at age 21 their records are wiped clean. There's very little rehabilitation in the juvenile justice system, and to be honest Im not even sure if they receive a high school diploma when they 'graduate' high school behind bars, I think its just a GED in most states.
Remember the two boys that shot up Jonesboro back in the 90s? Thats exactly what happened to them. They were convicted murders before they even reached their teens and they were both sentenced to Juvenile Correction until they turn 21 - upon their 21st birthdays, they were released and the records wiped clean. Yes they lost their childhoods - but what about the LIVES they took when they started shooting, you can never get that back and get a fresh start just as the two boys did.
I think certain offenders should get the opportunity for rehabilitation such as those who have been victims of sexual abuse that have gone on to abuse and or rape someone else. You know their train of thought has been warped somewhere along the line causing them to believe that this is OK and normal when its very much not.
And it also depends on the age and their level to comprehend what theyve done. Some kids are just not the brightest bulb in the box to begin with, but say you have a 15 year old thats stolen his mothers credit card and maxed it out, come on you know the kid knew better, he just thought he could get away with it. I say cases like that dont need 'rehabilitation' he needs some big kid timeout in the slammer.
Am I saying the juvenile system is fair and just as is? Absolutely not, I dont think kids have enough rights and even at certain facilities they have absolutely no rights and the staff abuses the children by ignoring their requests to use the restroom or to see the nurse if they are sick. You would think stuff like that is fairly simple, but in the juvenile system its often seen as 'stupid little brat just wants to get out of their cell to cause trouble' and kids have died at these facilities due to neglect and abuse.
I dont think we should make a hard swing from not giving them enough rights to suddenly giving them too many rights and being mushy-cushy oh poor kid mentality. You have to find that right balance so that kids can report abuse and neglect in a timely manner - meaning the proof is valid via cameras and microphones. But also the kids know they are there to be punished not to be on vacation - which means no TV, no video games, although family visits wouldn't be bad - Id let the family come twice a week for 2 hour visits - as long as the kid displays good behavior while serving his/her time. And I think they should be allowed a phone call to/from home on their birthdays for 30 minutes. And Christmas Id allow the kids and parents to see each other for an entire day (such as Christmas Eve or Christmas Day) and allow them to have some family time on the grounds.
But I would also stick to my guns and say OK - this is punishment not a vacation - Id give it something of a boot camp curriculum where the theory is to break down the old person and to build up a newer better stronger person. 1st half of the day would be spent in a boot camp type environment and the 2nd half spent doing education and the evenings spent doing clean-up, homework, etc. Very little time to just sit and socialize.
Dixie, yes from what I recall most kid on kid sexual abuse is due to the perpetrator having been sexually assaulted. I really do think that almost all people convicted of sexual assualt should be put in one of those hospitals for the criminally insane. maybe if they get treated, they will get their issues under control. Most rapists/child molesters/etc are very mentally ill, and do need treatment. putting them in a prison really doesn't help, b/c it doesn't address the underlying psychological problems that lead to the rape in the first place.
If you read up on why men rape, the foundation of why they rape, always boils down to ANGER.I'm not talking about yelling/screaming anger. More like misogyntic (anger at women as a group) anger.
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There are all type of rape, But rape is rape. It not just about anger, it also about control in a sick twisted way men rape. Other then that is also ego power trip too. I have heard some college frat boys or college guy slip a date rape drug in women drinks and it not just anger, it about power getting away with it and that is so wrong. Rape is a terrible crime against women and children and that would cause them to be emotionally and mentally scar for life.
Undoubtedly, individual rapists may have a variety of motivations. A man may rape because, for instance, he wants to impress his friends by losing his virginity, or because he wants to avenge himself against a woman who has spurned him. But social scientists have not convincingly demonstrated that rapists are not at least partly motivated by sexual desire as well. Indeed, how could a rape take place at all without sexual motivation on the part of the rapist? Isn. t sexual arousal of the rapist the one common factor in all rapes, including date rapes, rapes of children, rapes of women under anesthetic and even gang rapes committed by soldiers during war?
Consider the following facts:
" Most rape victims are women of childbearing age.
" In many cultures rape is treated as a crime against the victim. s husband.
" Rape victims suffer less emotional distress when they are subjected to more violence.
" Rape takes place not only among human beings but also in a variety of other animal species.
" Married women and women of childbearing age experience more psychological distress after a rape than do girls, single women or women who are past menopause.
As bizarre as some of those facts may seem, they all make sense when rape is viewed as a natural, biological phenomenon that is a product of the human evolutionary heritage.
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Don t take it the wrong way I learn that on crime show about rape. But speaking of what I posted in other countries think is natural for them to rape but america is different issue. Lot of women do report rape but not many women willing to report it because lot of time it hard to prove a rape case.
GTM, it's basicly about both control and anger. But anger is the basic foundation behind rape.
That show you watched was redicuous......................its not about sexual desire. it's basicly that men have been taught that there's a lot of power in sex, so some fucked up men think that that entitles them to rape women. Make sense now? I mean I do think that date rape is a seperate thing. Most date rapes occur b/c of miscommunication. Hell, sex is a tough issue.....it's bound to happen that there be some misunderstandings. (especially since a lot of women are socialized to not make a fuss about stuff)
You really need to read up on why men rape....and not just pop stuff....more psychological case studies.
That show you watched was redicuous......................its not about sexual desire. it's basicly that men have been taught that there's a lot of power in sex, so some fucked up men think that that entitles them to rape women. Make sense now? I mean I do think that date rape is a seperate thing. Most date rapes occur b/c of miscommunication. Hell, sex is a tough issue.....it's bound to happen that there be some misunderstandings. (especially since a lot of women are socialized to not make a fuss about stuff)
You really need to read up on why men rape....and not just pop stuff....more psychological case studies.
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one more thing,, how is miscommuications related to rape? A woman didn't ask a guy to rape her. Whatmore, if the guy get wrong singals that don't give him a permission to rape and if the woman says "no" she means it. Guys think No means yes, and they know better when NO means is no.