WOW This could hurt DEMOCRATS in November."Senate rejects amendment on gay marriage"

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I'm out now and I promise that I refuse to quit it so I just keep until die.

That guy is so sick.. I hope he will die soon because of age.

By late 2000's or early 2010's, I would to get VISA/work permit then relocate to Canada, probably in Toronto and even in Vancouver. I don't want hear about bunch of shit in USA anymore and issues are enough... That's my final decision about relocate to Canada, no more change in plans. No more car, no more health insurance, no more auto insurance and no more gas. Proud to be immigrant. :)

WHATEVER... WHATEVER... Don't talk to me...
 
TrippLA said:
I'm out now and I promise that I refuse to quit it so I just keep until die.

That guy is so sick.. I hope he will die soon because of age.

By late 2000's or early 2010's, I would to get VISA/work permit then relocate to Canada, probably in Toronto and even in Vancouver. I don't want hear about bunch of shit in USA anymore and issues are enough... That's my final decision about relocate to Canada, no more change in plans. No more car, no more health insurance, no more auto insurance and no more gas. Proud to be immigrant. :)

WHATEVER... WHATEVER... Don't talk to me...
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Ill Help to send you a one way trip to VANCOUVER!
 
Buckdodgers said:
Ill Help to send you a one way trip to VANCOUVER!
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Don't trust to them, quit to be afraid... I'm too tired of explain again and again also Fred is full of bullshit, but he's just write up in veiws and not fact.

Now, I'm out... Thread is FULL OF BULLSHIT.
 
Buckdodgers said:
Im afraid Heath is right.Fred Phelp is right and not only Fred Phelp says God doesnt approve homosexual behavor Rev Jerry Falwell said it too

Read this too
Homosexuality

Jerry Falwell
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Dude, I already told you that the bible is irrevelant to people who do not believe in it.

Also, I LOVE how you are citing rotten.com (first link) to support your argument against homosexuality. I suggest that you look at the rest of the site.
 
Thank you Reba and Boult! whoa! too I excite read here

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I don't know if there is one at this site but look for it yourself: http://www.pollingreport.com/

Thanks for the link. I tried searching before and couldn't find anything. Your site is a good resource.

Anyway, I checked it out. Unless I overlooked it, I still didn't find a poll that sorted the pro/con vote on the marriage amendment by religious affiliation.

So, I still don't know why posters at AD assume that the only people opposed to same-sex marriage are Christians. Maybe it is just because Christians are more likely to speak out publicly about it.
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Boult
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I think it's interesting that many posters seem to think that only Christians are opposed to same-sex "marriages", and that all non-religious people support same-sex "marriages". Are there any statistics to support that?

I don't know if there is one at this site but look for it yourself: http://www.pollingreport.com/
 
Also, buckdodgers, the second link is actually speaking out against Jerry Falwell.
 
hootster said:
Also, buckdodgers, the second link is actually speaking out against Jerry Falwell.
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Well Jerry Falwell,Pat Robertson and Fred Phelp all against gay marrages and the senate is supposed to serve the people of america instead of looking after special intrest groups.And the democrats are looking after special intrest groups rather than serve the american people on this issue.
 
Buckdodgers said:
Bullshit? Then Read this?
What does the Bible say about homosexuality? Is homosexuality a sin?

Read down and it will say Corinthians 6:9 proclaims that homosexual “offenders” will not inherit the kingdom of God.
There you have it,,YOU WILL NOT ENTER HEAVEN If you commit a homo act.
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Romans 2:1-7 You would not say to him "YOU WILL NOT ENTER HEAVEN" It not right say that! Just pray for him!

1 Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things.
2 But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth against them which commit such things.
3 And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God?
4 Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?
5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;
6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds:
7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:
 
Reba said:
That's the problem. Those states that want to decide are not allowed to. Some states have already passed laws that prohibit same-sex "marriages", BUT the courts have disallowed them. The reason that a national Constitutional amendment was proposed was so that the state and district courts wouldn't be able to strike down the state laws.
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Check your state constitution. The courts exist in order to rein in the actions of the legislature, just as they do at the national level. Those states' constitutions have been interpreted as disallowing a ban on gay marriage; if the states want to ban gay marriage, they need to vote to change their constitutions first, not go whining to the federal government.
 
Buckdodgers said:
Bullshit? Then Read this?
What does the Bible say about homosexuality? Is homosexuality a sin?

Read down and it will say Corinthians 6:9 proclaims that homosexual “offenders” will not inherit the kingdom of God.
There you have it,,YOU WILL NOT ENTER HEAVEN If you commit a homo act.
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I don't give a frigging s*** if I can't enter heaven! :mad: I've been with my partner for 16 years and I intend to continue to love her til I die! Is loving one another a sin? First please read below...... then BUG OFF! :fu:

love one another (King James Version)

John 13:34 (Read all of John 13)
A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

John 13:35 (Read all of John 13)
By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

John 15:12 (Read all of John 15)
This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.

John 15:17 (Read all of John 15)
These things I command you, that ye love one another.

Romans 12:10 (Read all of Romans 12)
Be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour preferring one another;

Romans 13:8 (Read all of Romans 13)
Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.

Galatians 5:13 (Read all of Galatians 5)
For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.

Ephesians 4:2 (Read all of Ephesians 4)
With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love;

1 Thessalonians 3:12 (Read all of 1 Thessalonians 3)
And the Lord make you to increase and abound in love one toward another, and toward all men, even as we do toward you:

1 Thessalonians 4:9 (Read all of 1 Thessalonians 4)
But as touching brotherly love ye need not that I write unto you: for ye yourselves are taught of God to love one another.

Hebrews 10:24 (Read all of Hebrews 10)
And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:

1 Peter 1:22 (Read all of 1 Peter 1)
Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:

1 Peter 3:8 (Read all of 1 Peter 3)
Finally, be ye all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous:

1 John 3:11 (Read all of 1 John 3)
For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.

1 John 3:23 (Read all of 1 John 3)
And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.

1 John 4:7 (Read all of 1 John 4)
Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.

1 John 4:11 (Read all of 1 John 4)
Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.

1 John 4:12 (Read all of 1 John 4)
No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.

2 John 1:5 (Read all of 2 John 1)
And now I beseech thee, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment unto thee, but that which we had from the beginning, that we love one another.
 
EyesBlueDeaf said:
I don't give a frigging s*** if I can't enter heaven! :mad: I've been with my partner for 16 years and I intend to continue to love her til I die! Is loving one another a sin? First please read below...... then BUG OFF! :fu:

love one another (King James Version)

John 13:34 (Read all of John 13)
A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

John 13:35 (Read all of John 13)
By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

John 15:12 (Read all of John 15)
This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.

John 15:17 (Read all of John 15)
These things I command you, that ye love one another.

Romans 12:10 (Read all of Romans 12)
Be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour preferring one another;

Romans 13:8 (Read all of Romans 13)
Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.

Galatians 5:13 (Read all of Galatians 5)
For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.

Ephesians 4:2 (Read all of Ephesians 4)
With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love;

1 Thessalonians 3:12 (Read all of 1 Thessalonians 3)
And the Lord make you to increase and abound in love one toward another, and toward all men, even as we do toward you:

1 Thessalonians 4:9 (Read all of 1 Thessalonians 4)
But as touching brotherly love ye need not that I write unto you: for ye yourselves are taught of God to love one another.

Hebrews 10:24 (Read all of Hebrews 10)
And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:

1 Peter 1:22 (Read all of 1 Peter 1)
Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:

1 Peter 3:8 (Read all of 1 Peter 3)
Finally, be ye all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous:

1 John 3:11 (Read all of 1 John 3)
For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.

1 John 3:23 (Read all of 1 John 3)
And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.

1 John 4:7 (Read all of 1 John 4)
Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.

1 John 4:11 (Read all of 1 John 4)
Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.

1 John 4:12 (Read all of 1 John 4)
No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.

2 John 1:5 (Read all of 2 John 1)
And now I beseech thee, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment unto thee, but that which we had from the beginning, that we love one another.
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Hi EyesBlueDeaf, I want to comment that you will notice that God and Jesus Christ said that they were not talking about anything in a sexual context. God and The Lord Jesus Christ were talking about the law that was prescibed " Love Thy Neighbor " and They were expanding upon the subject to make the law more clear and while that is true and part of loving your neighbor is to tell the truth concerning the issue of homosexuality and what God had to say on the subject in the KJV Holy Bible. This is a very good discussion and also, This really should be in the Christianity forum.
 
EyesBlueDeaf said:
Only Fred Phelps thinks that!
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No. Other people think this way, too. Hate breeds hate. It's sad that we all can't come together and have an open discussion about this. Notice I said "discussion", and NOT a debate. We've been debating this for eons, and nobody seems no one has gotten the clue that we're not making any headway in the way of tolerance and appreciation for one's differences.
 
ismi said:
Check your state constitution. The courts exist in order to rein in the actions of the legislature, just as they do at the national level. Those states' constitutions have been interpreted as disallowing a ban on gay marriage; if the states want to ban gay marriage, they need to vote to change their constitutions first, not go whining to the federal government.
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That's true. However, I don't think the states are "whining" to the Feds. I think the states want to tend to their own gardens, so to speak. It's the FEDS who want to come in and decide this issue FOR the states. It's a political ploy by the Feds, and so far, it's failed.
 
I think Democrats are lost in the election on this issue.Just like Canada liberal party lost last year on social issues.
 
Buckdodgers said:
I think Democrats are lost in the election on this issue.Just like Canada liberal party lost last year on social issues.
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It's nothing new one, when back in 80's, democrats were weak until around early 90's then gained more stronger again then I think it will be gain more stronger in 2008 or so. You don't know about political issues in 80's, when during Reagon term, former government of California in 1967 until 1975. Just certain years to see democrats or republicans are weak or strong, some are switched in mostly of decade. I bet you are likely under 18 that too scared to post about can't enters heaven, homosexual is sin and many things, also you don't mature enough to discuss about own wise and too scared that how's people are right. You refuse to listen what hootster and other forumers said then again, quit to act stupid and bullshit. :mad:
 
TrippLA said:
Nah, Nothing would be news, still old news... Conservative is still in Canada in 70's then again in 90's.... Nothing be new one...
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if clinton is still in the oval office.. and 9/11 happened.. what will c linton do? he'll do nothing just pee his pants!
 
DeafSCUBA98 said:
if clinton is still in the oval office.. and 9/11 happened.. what will c linton do? he'll do nothing just pee his pants!
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Nah, Clinton was out of office after 2nd term and I don't know what Clinton are doing. For my opinion, that terrorists who crashed on WTC are probably unhappy with Bush, recalled about happened in Persian War in 1991, also if Bush's father won the 2nd term in Nov 1992 then terrorist will occur in around 1993 or 1994. Clinton was just nothing with terrorist during his term, also many people in Arab countries are unhappy with Bush's family.

If Al Gore win the election then WTC will be leave on site and no one want hurts America until Bush won. THat all about my opinion.
 
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