Woman Shoots Self To Get Health Care

[Jiro]

It says she ways treated...



..Dunno if that includes an X-ray or not but my experience in ERs (without ins.) is that they are very quick to x-ray if they feel there is a possiblity of a broken bone....

Many times they will give a shot but will not write a prescription if DRs believe the patient is drug seeking.....

there you go -

Doctors gave her some anti-inflammatories, but couldn't do much more than that, she said. "I didn't have insurance, so I couldn't get a CT-scan or MRI."

 

[Reba]

Questions:

Is it normal to order a CT scan or MRI for a painful collar bone? Isn't it normal to give anti-inflammatory medication for soft tissue damage pain?

 

[Jiro]

Questions:

Is it normal to order a CT scan or MRI for a painful collar bone?

yes

Isn't it normal to give anti-inflammatory medication for soft tissue damage pain?

yes

the big question is - are people with health insurance more likely to get CT scan or MRI scan than those without health insurance in same situation?

 

[shel90]

The truth is we dont know until we are in her shoes. Intense pain can drive anyone to the point of taking desperate actions.

Or maybe she is mentally ill.

We dont know...

Sad that she had to resort such dangerous measures to get the treatment she felt she needed..

Who is at fault? Maybe a little bit of everyone.

 

[naisho]

Yes, that's the right way to go shel.

She looks like she is depressed in her video interview. Said the same thing "Pain will make you do crazy things."

Said she was prepared for the shot, used ice packs and pillows during the shooting. Now it's being determined if she will be filed criminal charges for shooting a gun in city limits.

 

[Foxrac]

The truth is we dont know until we are in her shoes. Intense pain can drive anyone to the point of taking desperate actions.

Or maybe she is mentally ill.

We dont know...

Sad that she had to resort such dangerous measures to get the treatment she felt she needed..

Who is at fault? Maybe a little bit of everyone.

Second here.

This woman can go directly to ER without shot on her own, the hospital can't deny the treatment to this woman because she went to ER for serious injury.

 

[Reba]

yes

yes

the big question is - are people with health insurance more likely to get CT scan or MRI scan than those without health insurance in same situation?

I don't know. I know other people (myself included) with insurance coverage and painful shoulders who didn't get x-rays, MRI's or CT scans. We each got anti-inflammatory meds.

No one in chronic pain ever feels that they get enough help.

 

[Foxrac]

I don't know. I know other people (myself included) with insurance coverage and painful shoulders who didn't get x-rays, MRI's or CT scans. We each got anti-inflammatory meds.

No one in chronic pain ever feels that they get enough help.

I had bad arm injury in 2002 due football player and got x-ray, of course at doctor office.

 

[Jiro]

I don't know. I know other people (myself included) with insurance coverage and painful shoulders who didn't get x-rays, MRI's or CT scans. We each got anti-inflammatory meds.

I suppose it varies with type of insurance coverage. Yours is from government, correct? As for me - I pretty much got everything (X-ray, CAT scan, etc) under my private insurance coverage. I told a little story about my mysterious illness in AD a few months ago.

No one in chronic pain ever feels that they get enough help.

she doesn't have chronic pain. just untreated pain.

 

[Reba]

I suppose it varies with type of insurance coverage. Yours is from government, correct?

Like Obamacare will be, yes.

My friend had regular full-coverage health insurance. Her shoulder pain eventually went away by itself.

she doesn't have chronic pain. just untreated pain.

It will be chronic if it continues two more months.

Her pain was treated, just not to her satisfaction.

Even with the best insurance, not all pain can be resolved to a patient's satisfaction.

 

[Reba]

I had bad arm injury in 2002 due football player and got x-ray, of course at doctor office.

Not all injuries are the same.

 

[TXgolfer]

and does she look like drug-seeking person?

Yes without a doubt.

there you go -

Doctors gave her some anti-inflammatories, but couldn't do much more than that, she said. "I didn't have insurance, so I couldn't get a CT-scan or MRI."

First of all that is what she says.....so who knows

2nd if obamacare is in the business of giving CTs and MRIs for collarbone pain we are in even more screwed than I thought.

X-rays are about a tenth of the price of those tests.

 

[TXgolfer]

I suppose it varies with type of insurance coverage. Yours is from government, correct? As for me - I pretty much got everything (X-ray, CAT scan, etc) under my private insurance coverage. I told a little story about my mysterious illness in AD a few months ago.

Mysterious illness might require and MRI.......Collarbone pain, not so much

she doesn't have chronic pain. just untreated pain.

It was treated

 

[TXgolfer]

Sounds to me like she was planning to screw disability..........that is popular right now

 

[Jiro]

I don't know. I know other people (myself included) with insurance coverage and painful shoulders who didn't get x-rays, MRI's or CT scans. We each got anti-inflammatory meds.

No one in chronic pain ever feels that they get enough help.

enough help? she didn't get much of help. what she got was a substandard level of medical care. it's a shame especially in this wealthy nation and especially that our prisoners get more medical attention than her.

 

[Jiro]

Sounds to me like she was planning to screw disability..........that is popular right now

so she planned to do that by having her shoulder/collarbones popped by her dog?

 

[Jiro]

Mysterious illness might require and MRI.......Collarbone pain, not so much

you don't know that. could be micro-fracture. could be this. could be that. that's why we have to rule it out.

It was treated

if it ain't fixed, it ain't treated.

 

[TXgolfer]

so she planned to do that by having her shoulder/collarbones popped by her dog?

Oh those mysterious collarbone pops

you don't know that. could be micro-fracture. could be this. could be that. that's why we have to rule it out.

Pain from a collarbone microfracture???? Get real. There is no load on a collarbone she should take an Advil

if it ain't fixed, it ain't treated.

She needs to be treated alright..... I don't think they need an MRI for hypochondria though

 

[TXgolfer]

so she planned to do that by having her shoulder/collarbones popped by her dog?

And remember, this is her claim.....doesn't mean it happened. She did apply for disability and medicare earlier though

 

[Jiro]

Oh those mysterious collarbone pops

Pain from a collarbone microfracture???? Get real. There is no load on a collarbone she should take an Advil

ah playing an armchair doctor, aren't we eh?

She needs to be treated alright..... I don't think they need an MRI for hypochondria though