Why we not Catholic?

[darkflare83]

yeah dunno why and bascially truel religion is no religion per se i perfer to follow the bible nothing more religioins just mean extra "intrepreted' rules in my view of course no offense meant..... anyhoo...... my only religion is the bible and sinc ei accepted jesus in my heart i m an chrisitan then thats logical isnt it not?

 

[Maria]

Jesus don't have a religion when He was on this earth ministerin' people. He don't set up the name of the church such as Methodist, or Lutheran, or Catholic or what ever you name it. There was a church in His ancient times, yes - but there was NO name of the church where all the people can go and worship.

 

[Banjo]

Oh, brother Banjo ... you don't get it, do you ?

You are the one who keep insisting that you are not associated with a religion yet you believe in God. So, you are religious. No matter what you say, you are religious. What part of that do you not get?

Even the dictionary contradicted what you said.

 

[Maria]

You are the one who keep insisting that you are not associated with a religion yet you believe in God. So, you are religious. No matter what you say, you are religious. What part of that do you not get?

Even the dictionary contradicted what you said.

Well, like I said there's NO religions in the EYES of God. God don't view Christianity like He don't view other religions, no matter who is religious. He looks at the person's heart who ever accepts Jesus Christ as their personal Saviour ... and, THAT is what counts to God. I don't care how you perceive it. What really counts to me is that how God perceive it.

 

[netrox]

What really counts to me is that how God perceive it.

You don't know how God percieves, you merely percieve what you THINK God percieves.

 

[christlovedeaf]

Religion can be anything, not just devoting to God, can be spouse, things and other things. I m sport religion, my husband/wife is my religion and many things like that. We can be religious by how active I go to church/synagogue/mosque/temple. In human seeing we will be relgious, but God's eyes be different. In God's eyes, we can be relgious which doesn't mean anything, only what God's desire of us is having a relationship with Him. The only possible we can have a relationship with the Father, is thru Jesus Christ alone what God has planned. Without Christ, being religious is meaningless.

 

[Maria]

You don't know how God percieves, you merely percieve what you THINK God percieves.

Ok, read what God says :

1 Samuel 16:7

" But Jehovah said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have rejected him: for [Jehovah seeth] not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but Jehovah looketh on the heart. "

Now, you are tellin' me that I DON'T KNOW HOW God perceives ? What did the scriptures exactly tell you ? It's NOT what I THINK. It's what GOD says. He is THE TRUTH and I BELIEVE Him in every word He says. Believe and think are 2 different things.

And, besides that - what religion does David have ? There was none. He was just a merely shepherd who was takin' care of the sheep.

 

[Maria]

God sees inside that we can not see. He can read every person's heart that we can not read. He knows every person's heart that we can not know.

Three different things : See, read and know. God has the power to see, read and know everythin'. We don't have that kind of power. But, with Him, He can reveal to His true believers who are very faithful to Him. Only God can look at the heart.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

CyberRed, you are correct that God/Jesus don't have religions but I has to agree with Banjo...

Why?

Christianity, Catholic, JW, and any beliefs belongs to religions...

Example: Christianity convince Catholic wrong because Christianity bible is correct, not Catholic... That's example what I often saw in many debated threads.

That's why I do not support kind of bibles/religions...

 

[christlovedeaf]

Well, many fall on who preachers or priest and blamed and taking advantage by not study the Bible to know what to believe. I've seen tooo many doesn't know how to study and taking easy way out by not study themselves to make sure its accurate. The way by using by saying its contradiction in the Bible bec what a person uses to confuse people making appear to be contradiction which it wasn't any. Study the Bible without Holy Spirit speaking will never percieve the Word. And not caution who could be the false teaching like healing for example. I don't stop study the Bible bec all has differences. Highly percentage atre similar teaching who Jesus is and salvation. But the creed is different. All what you do does not earn salvation. Only salvation is thru Jesus Christ alone.

 

[Maria]

CyberRed, you are correct that God/Jesus don't have religions but I has to agree with Banjo...

Why?

Christianity, Catholic, JW, and any beliefs belongs to religions...

Example: Christianity convince Catholic wrong because Christianity bible is correct, not Catholic... That's example what I often saw in many debated threads.

That's why I do not support kind of bibles/religions...

You are entitled to agree with Banjo. I am entitled to disagree with you and Banjo.

Well, if you don't support the Bible, then how could you say that you believe there's God ?

 

[EagleCherokee63]

You are entitled to agree with Banjo. I am entitled to disagree with you and Banjo.

Well, if you don't support the Bible, then how could you say that you believe there's God ?

I am agree with CyberRed!

 

[Liebling:-)))]

You are entitled to agree with Banjo. I am entitled to disagree with you and Banjo.

Well, if you don't support the Bible, then how could you say that you believe there's God ?

Simple answer to your question.

Like what I say before that God & Jesus don't have religions but themselves... That's why I don't have religions to worship but God & Jesus themselves.

I support history, not bible... Jesus & God are one of history, I enjoy to learn where they come from... where we come from... I do not support to worship or do what the bible says... This is a difference.

 

[Maria]

Simple answer to your question.

Like what I say before that God & Jesus don't have religions but themselves... That's why I don't have religions to worship but God & Jesus themselves.

I support history, not bible... Jesus & God are one of history, I enjoy to learn where they come from... where we come from... I do not support to worship or do what the bible says... This is a difference.

Supposely, a BIG IF, there's never a bible written - do you still think that the world will be here ?

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Supposely, a BIG IF, there's never a bible written - do you still think that the world will be here ?

I think you didn't get the difference.

Yes, we learn from the bible story where we come from etc... This bible story is a similar as history... I support this

See this example
The Bible Story

This is not what I am support to
What is Worship in the Bible?
or
Are You Worshipping God In Spirit And In Truth?

I do not obey/worship the bible and do what the bible says but learn to understand where we come from and what kind of life God & Jesus lead etc... I hope you get the difference what I try to explain.

 

[Maria]

I think you didn't get the difference.

Yes, we learn from the bible story where we come from etc... This bible story is a similar as history... I support this

See this example
The Bible Story

This is not what I am support to
What is Worship in the Bible?
or
Are You Worshipping God In Spirit And In Truth?

I do not obey/worship the bible and do what the bible says but learn to understand where we come from and what kind of life God & Jesus lead etc... I hope you get the difference what I try to explain.

I already understood you earlier. Of course, I got the difference. But, you didn't answer to my question. I want to know and I am goin' to ask you again :

Supposely, a BIG IF, there's never a bible written - do you still think that the world will be here ?

What's your answer ?

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Supposely, a BIG IF, there's never a bible written - do you still think that the world will be here ?

What's your answer ?

My answer:

If there're no bible story written then we would never learn where we come from... but if there're no scientists focus on Evolution then we would never learn where we come from as well...

Did you know that a lot of people begin to beleive in Evolution more and beleive that we come from apes time...? Without scientist's focus, we would never know where we come from... ? There're many scientists are for Evolution or Bible... They disagree each other over that Evolution and bible....

Example about dinsosaurs... who find their fossils? of course Scientists... Without Scientists, we would never know that the dinsosaurs were existed.

I guess if there're no bible story written, then we would beleive only Evolution.

 

[christlovedeaf]

Bible and science go together. For example, God created everything, and God gave us brain to use it. Now, Liebling, I don't know which you meant, you said differently, you said you rather have history than Bible and other yoy are saying Bible has history. The problem is that some scientist have Bible backup. We don't worship Bible. Bible is a part we study which many missing a point, bec using the Bible without knowing the cultural, and reasoning been written does missing a lot of point. The Bible does not mislocating where the town is, person(s) is the one mislocating whatever the town is, where Jesus born and etc. Bible is loaded with evrything. But deep details is our responsiblity to discover. That's why God give different gifts to each person. Many taking it selfishly. Bible is part of Spiritual Nourishment, without them, Spirit starves.

 

[Reba]

...Did you know that a lot of people begin to beleive in Evolution more and beleive that we come from apes time...?

Yes, that is so sad. I feel sorry for them.

Without scientist's focus, we would never know where we come from... ?

We already knew where we came from, a long time before there were "scientists" giving their opinions.

Example about dinsosaurs... who find their fossils?

All kinds of people find fossils. Kids, old people, farmers, students, and some scientists.
DISCOVERING FOSSILS - National fossil collecting & hunting group

People have been finding dinosaur fossils for hundreds of years, probably even thousands of years. The Greeks and Romans may have found fossils, giving rise to their many ogre and griffin legends. There are references to "dragon" bones found in Wucheng, Sichuan, China (written by Chang Qu) over 2,000 years ago; these were probably dinosaur fossils.

Much later, in 1676, a huge thigh bone (femur) was found in England by Reverend Plot. It was thought that the bone belonged to a "giant," but was probably from a dinosaur. A report of this find was published by R. Brookes in 1763.

The first dinosaur to be described scientifically was Megalosaurus. This genus was named in 1824, by William Buckland... a British fossil hunter and clergyman who discovered collected fossils.

...Mary Anning (1799-1847) was an early British fossil hunter who began finding fossils as a child, and supported herself and her family by finding and selling fossils. She lived on the southern coast of England, in Lyme Regis. Anning found the first fossilized plesiosaur and Ichthyosaurus. She found many important fossils, including Pterodactylus, sharks, and many other reptiles and fish.

...Edward B. Hitchcock (1793-1864) was a US clergyman and geologist who found the first large dinosaur trackways (in Connecticut, USA). Hitchcock collected over 20,000 dinosaur fossil footprints...

Ruth Mason ( -1990) found a huge dinosaur fossils bone bed (a collection of thousands of fossils) on her family's Harding County, South Dakota, USA, ranch when she was 7 years old. Since then, tens of thousands of dinosaur fossils have been found at the "Ruth Mason Quarry," near Faith, SD...

William Winkley (1900-1976) discovered the first Pachycephalosaurus fossil in 1938 while herding cattle on the family ranch outside of Ekalaka, Montana, USA. Winkley also found a Tröodon skull on his ranch.
First Dinosaur Fossil Discoveries - Paleontology and Geology Glossary

Kids around here go searching for (and finding) fossilized sharks' teeth every day. We have a stream behind our house that is popular for fossil hunters.
South Carolina Fossil Shark Teeth Catalog Lee Creek Fossil Shark Tooth Catalog

Without Scientists, we would never know that the dinsosaurs were existed.

The Bible told about dinosaurs long before scientists developed their theories.

 

[shel90]

Yes, that is so sad. I feel sorry for them.





The Bible told about dinosaurs long before scientists developed their theories.

Why do u feel sorry for them? What is the big deal? Some people believe in God, religion, the Bible, and whorship and others believe in scientific facts, and evolution. If people dont have the same beliefs as u do, there is nothing wrong with that and no reason to feel sorry for them if they are perfectly happy with their beliefs.

I seriously do not understand it when people tell me that feel sorry for me that I havent found God or whatever. I have faith in MYSELF and I accept that. I am not gonna accept other people's beliefs just because they say they feel sorry for me. Why is there pity? Who cares..everyone is different. I dont care if u or other people strongly believe in religion or whatever..that is your beliefs and I will respect that but what about respecting my beliefs or other people's beliefs in evolution?