White in envelope sent to Gov. of Arizona

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Steinhauer said:
Apparently, Arizona's law FINALLY got the FEDS to do their effing jobs!
Someone had to light a fire under their uppity posteriors!

596 criminal aliens arrested in targeted ICE operation throughout the southeastern U.S.

People wonder why the feds were not doing anything - I will tell you ONE reason they never did anything. The same people who depend on "slave labor" from illegals, are also lobbyists in DC - why would anyone running for public office do something opposed by those wealthy influential slave drivers?

Now ... just 19,999,411 left to go.
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um..... wrong article. this is not in support of Arizona and has no relation to Arizona.

During the operation, which concluded late last night, ICE officers and agents worked in teams with the U.S. Marshals Service, U.S. Customs and Border Protection, and local law enforcement agencies in Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, Arkansas, Alabama, Louisiana, Mississippi, Tennessee and Puerto Rico.
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no California. no Arizona. no New Mexico. nothing - no landlocked border states part of ICE operations.
 
Steinhauer said:
I bet that was you holding the sign .... I distinctly remember you making some choice words about Arizona Cops .... why aren't you sitting in a jail cell right alongside the Hutaree?
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because it's not criminal to make a free speech - even bitter one. Remember Sgt. James Crowley? Apparently - he forgot the Massachusetts law that being verbally abusive to officers is not a crime and it is not a ground for disorderly conduct.

wondering why aren't you *gasp* Godwin's Law - living in Germany?
 
Steinhauer said:
What about the tunnels? I say .... flood them when illegals are inside. That would be one HELL of a deterrent from future prospective tunnelists.

(not really - I just like "playing" the Nazi type for the dimwitted).
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FYI: drug tunnels = built by drug smugglers = funded by Americans
 
I may disagree with racist policies but I also don't agree with sending stupid suspicious envelopes:roll:
 
Steinhauer said:
Protesters are so mild mannered.

although I suspect that has been photo shopped because the English is perfect.

Is anybody surprised that protesters who are embracing criminal behavior are threatening LEO's?
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If you suspect a photo has been tampered with you shouldn't post it as support for your argument. It will come back to bite you.
 
Jiro said:
um..... wrong article. this is not in support of Arizona and has no relation to Arizona.
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He didn't say it was in support of Arizona. He said that the action was a result of Arizona's action stirring things up on the Federal level. I don't know if that's quite true either because that kind of operation is usually a result of long-term planning. Nevertheless, the ICE sweep was the kind of action that people on both sides of the Arizona argument should want to see. They scooped up criminals with records; they didn't stop random "brown" people on city streets.


no California. no Arizona. no New Mexico. nothing - no landlocked border states part of ICE operations.
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The article stated it was a southeast area operation.
 
Jiro said:
because it's not criminal to make a free speech - even bitter one. Remember Sgt. James Crowley? Apparently - he forgot the Massachusetts law that being verbally abusive to officers is not a crime and it is not a ground for disorderly conduct....
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Free speech allows offensive language and insults; it does NOT allow making threats of violence.

It is criminal to threaten to kill someone, or to incite others to violence.
 
Reba said:
He didn't say it was in support of Arizona. He said that the action was a result of Arizona's action stirring things up on the Federal level. I don't know if that's quite true either because that kind of operation is usually a result of long-term planning. Nevertheless, the ICE sweep was the kind of action that people on both sides of the Arizona argument should want to see. They scooped up criminals with records; they didn't stop random "brown" people on city streets.

The article stated it was a southeast area operation.
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I do not believe it's the result of Arizona's action otherwise the ICE sweep would be in southeast area. and plus - this federal operation most likely has already been in process long before the news of Arizona's immigration law.

Either way - there are too many maybes and it's a stretch to claim this ICE sweep was the result of Arizona's action.
 
Steinhauer said:
I bet that was you holding the sign .... I distinctly remember you making some choice words about Arizona Cops .... why aren't you sitting in a jail cell right alongside the Hutaree?
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You aren't looks like libertarian as you mentioned in past but you are much more conservative, or right wing fanatic that I had seen in numerous of your post.

Libertarian don't like to see any polices stop anybody for check on immigrant status because it is interfere with liberties.
 
Foxrac said:
You aren't looks like libertarian as you mentioned in past but you are much more conservative, or right wing fanatic that I had seen in numerous of your post.

Libertarian don't like to see any polices stop anybody for check on immigrant status because it is interfere with liberties.
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It's probably best not to try to label each other.
 
interesting read about the authenticity of the sign - ALIPAC Forums-viewtopic-We will shoot more police in Arizona till we get free? especially at page 3 - middle.

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If you look at the pixelation around the text and the blurring on the background of the signs it clearly show that the signs were blanked out first then new text was put in on top in photoshop.


Welcome to the Infowar...
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Good morning, I did some handwriting and pixel analysis on this sign. The more I look at it the more I think it is a fake, intended to inflame us.

It appears like someone wrote this out on paper, scanned it into a computer or took a photo of it and pasted it on top of the guys sign. That, or some other similar technique. Write out the same message on a piece of paper using the same type of block print that is on the sign. When I did it it looked so similar I was shocked. Most of the other protest signs I have seen are done using plain old paint and a brush, a finger, or they use felt tipped pen but they go over the letters several times to get the desired thickness and readability.

I think someone is fanning the flames.

I found patterns using a single pixel fill technique using black color. Seems like a manual edit, possibly Photoshop or other software. See these patterns? the one that looks like an "L" shape could be the edge of a piece of paper used to scrawl the message or it could indicate a fold in a piece of paper that was used to do it. Either way it is awfully suspicious. See the block patterns on the pic I attached? There are too many symmetrical patterns. And they line up in an unusual way. AND, the writing itself appears to be written by hand using a marker, perhaps a black and then a red Sharpie (I am guessing). The number of SYMMETRICAL block patterns that filled in when I tried to drop single pixels into the image were a HUGE tip off to me. (Note - I am NOT a professional graphics designer or other imaging specialist. I have simply done editing on images for so long it seemed to me to be VERY apparent that the image was doctored.

If you compare the writing type and style it looks so much different than any of the other signs I have seen that I immediately started to investigate.

Oh, also if you look at the top edge of the sign it appears that the sign began as multi-colored but the white was over-layed onto it.

I'm declaring it a fake.

Everything else is true. We are at a heightened state of war with Mexico and their soldiers are attempting to take us over by sheer numbers.

I like the leaflet thing though. I'd like to see people dropping them by the thousands in all the neighborhoods that are trouble areas.

I can show you the pic if you can assist me in learning how to post a photo here. If a photobucket link will work I have an account there.
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Reba said:
Free speech allows offensive language and insults; it does NOT allow making threats of violence.

It is criminal to threaten to kill someone, or to incite others to violence.
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yes I'm aware of the difference but I seriously doubt this photo is real.
 
saywhatkid said:
Here's a thought: what if a right wing extremist did this to fire up the troops? Agreed that this is unlikely, but never underestimate extremists on either side of the political landscape. Unless captured, all the people in favor of this law can point to the criminal that sent white substance as one of those "Liberal scum buckets."
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kokonut said:
Was this warranted then?
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Note the bold, in red. It is a crime. He should be captured and tried. Was the Unabomber a hero? No.
Difference here is I am not leaning to the side. I would feel equally as strong no matter if the target was Liberal or Conservative. Blow all you want; I will not be swayed that you feel the same way.
 
Steinhauer said:
Protesters are so mild mannered.

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although I suspect that has been photo shopped because the English is perfect.

Is anybody surprised that protesters who are embracing criminal behavior are threatening LEO's?
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Pardon me, but your bias is showing...

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I am extremely biased against criminals and Liberals, because to me, they are both the same thing.
 
saywhatkid said:
Note the bold, in red. It is a crime. He should be captured and tried. Was the Unabomber a hero? No.
Difference here is I am not leaning to the side. I would feel equally as strong no matter if the target was Liberal or Conservative.
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That's good to hear.
 
Steinhauer said:
I am extremely biased against criminals and Liberals, because to me, they are both the same thing.
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but not Conservatives? they're not criminals?
 
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